Anna Wintour Out of Vogue Soon?

Once Anna gets the boot, nothing can save her, if someone as legendary, even at that point, as Vreeland was fired and replaced literally over night,then the same can go down with Wintour.

I'm pretty sure Anna would find another great position.
 
what is this "list" that is being mentioned? :unsure:

i feel like i should already know this...
 
well..history's repeating itself if it's true...just like what happened to diana vreeland and grace mirabella...i think it's becoming a vogue tradition...
 
what is this "list" that is being mentioned? :unsure:

i feel like i should already know this...
Supposedly Anna has a list of names, designers, photographers, makeup artists, etc, who she helped in their early days (Galliano for example) and who she's....requested....loyalty from, even if she were to leave or be let go from Vogue.
 
And what... these people on the list are going to ban themselves from US Vogue if she gets the boot... not likely. I don't think she would land another postion at a magazine though... she would have to start her own... like Grace Mirabella did... or maybe something else... Vreeland went on to become the curator of the Costume Institute at the Met. She'd have more time to follow Federer around while he plays tennis... maybe she'd enjoy doing that :lol:
 
In my humble opinion, to be quite honest even though I do like to see changes at US Vogue, I feel like that Anna is good at what she's doing. Yes, US Vogue is considered boring by all these fashion "snobs" but it has the largest circulation & appeals. Anna is a business woman. Just my thoughts. :flower:
 
A list of what - people who are going to follow her into the wilderness because their work appeared in Vogue?

It's a dramatically appealling idea that in your darkest hour, you could compel loyalty via such a list, but looked at in the light of day, it's insane, it's almost blackmail, and unless you had something really bad on them, it wouldn't happen anyway.

People will follow you because they want to work with you, there's no need to keep lists.

Besides, an editor needs to fill her pages with something, so the favour of appearing in it goes both ways, even if US Vogue likes to insist that it's the biggest deal you could imagine. Plenty of people have done well for themselves without ever becoming an approved subject or employee.
 
Once Anna gets the boot, nothing can save her, if someone as legendary, even at that point, as Vreeland was fired and replaced literally over night,then the same can go down with Wintour.

I'm pretty sure Anna would find another great position.

god I love Diana Vreeland...
 
^ Well, yes... but this whole Anna having a "list" thing sounds much more like it's being plucking out of the movie rather than the movie having taken it from what is now going on.
 
AHAHAH!
There is no "list" get over it, you guys sound so funny!
Even if their was, that would not save her, once as long as the magazine is called "Vogue" everyone will die to be in it.
As for Aliona, that's a rumor, shes clarified that already, and I'm sure they would like to keep an EIC close to the American culture. Which counts Russia OUT.
 
AHAHAH!
There is no "list" get over it, you guys sound so funny!
Even if their was, that would not save her, once as long as the magazine is called "Vogue" everyone will die to be in it.
As for Aliona, that's a rumor, shes clarified that already, and I'm sure they would like to keep an EIC close to the American culture. Which counts Russia OUT.

I think you would be quite surprised by how similar the upper echelons of Russian and American society are in terms of lifestyle and social mores. On the one hand, you have the fairly aristocratic types, although the US doesn't have aristocrats as such. But we're talking Old Money, even if the White Russians suffered the Bolshevik interlude. And then, on the other hand, we have the New Money, and I can assure you that Russian New Money is every bit as loud, vulgar and brash as American New Money.

However, I agree with your view of some of the posts here as funny. I wonder how old some of the posters are. Russian Vogue is probably the most profitable Vogue on the European landmass. It is also the best all-rounder in terms of content, although this is lost on Western European and American readers who, of course, don't read Russian and, frankly, don't read much in any language. Look at this forum, for instance: nobody discusses editorial content of any of these magazines. It's all about the pictures.

I wouldn't say that everyone is dying to be in Vogue. That might have been true in the past, when Vogue really stood for something. However, the "brand" has been diluted by licence deals around the world and the general quality of the mainstream Vogues is demonstrably lower than those of even fifteen or twenty years ago.

Italian Vogue is still good as a photographic showcase. French Vogue is OK but not what it was under editors like Irene Silvani and Joan Buck. British Vogue is aimed at dumpy but snobbish mums in cardigans and 4x4s. American Vogue is aimed at Money, like Russian Vogue. However, Russian Vogue has more class than American Vogue - because Russia is a much older, more evolved culture - and American Vogue might benefit greatly from having Doletskaya at the helm.

Let's face it: the Americans who subscribe to or buy American Vogue form part of the 7% of US citizens who possess passports. They are rather more sophisticated than the bulk of their compatriots who, charming though they are, are more likely to be reading magazines about assault rifles, tractors and two-headed births than Vogue, which they probably consider to be part of the Devil's work.

The majority of the readership of American Vogue would not find a Russian Editor-in-Chief of Doletskaya's social and intellectual calibre at all off-putting. Those of you who think Sarah Palin is a great choice as VP-in-waiting clearly think differently. But the Cold War is over, you know, even if certain people are trying to kickstart it back into life. And Doletskaya gets the ads in, which is what these magazines are all about. If you look at Russian Vogue, you'll see that the ads are the same as those in other leading Vogues.

PK
 
^I was just about to write that a Russian editor as the head of Russian Vogue made more sense than a English editor, pretty much for the same reasons as you. People are over-estimating the cultural similarities between American and British. Just because they are ethnically (as far as the WASPs are concerned) and politically (for the moment) close doesn't mean they are comparable on a fundamental basis. The British are a unique society due to their geographic position and their history. They have avoided any major invasion in their modern history (the last one of real consequence was Guillaume the Conqueror and his French nobles), they have culturally isolated themselves for centuries and they have developed their own independent religion and unique type of government. How do that make them close to Americans, I can't see.
Anna was fit for the job because she was from the upper middle-class so she had the elitism and but her mindset was never English: her naked ambition and her business vision and cold professionalism were very American qualities. She was a success in US because she didn't think like a English editor. I highly doubt any other English woman would have been so successful.

I agree with your analysis of American society. Just like people confuse Paris with France when they talk about the mythical French Woman, they easily forget that outside the five biggest cities, America is pretty much Church, creationism, corn-fields and soccer moms.

As much as I loath Anna's stale style and elitism, the fact is Vogue US only need to talk to the elite or those who aspire to join the elite or are curious about them to be a commercial sucess. Of course, the fashion suffers but there is no going back to golden age of Vogue US as a creative outlet. This is a cash cow, and it need to stay that way so that the other better Vogue can keep on being creative and fashion forward.
 
My goodness, where was I to miss this gossip?!?

Although I would LOVE to have a new, fresh perspective at Vogue, I dont think Anna is going anywhere. But I am definitely one of the many that is ready for a change.

I have to go back and read all the responses to this, so interesting.
 
And what... these people on the list are going to ban themselves from US Vogue if she gets the boot... not likely. I don't think she would land another postion at a magazine though... she would have to start her own... like Grace Mirabella did... or maybe something else... Vreeland went on to become the curator of the Costume Institute at the Met. She'd have more time to follow Federer around while he plays tennis... maybe she'd enjoy doing that :lol:

LOL, :lol: :lol::lol:, LOL!! I respect Federer, he's an amazing player, but the last thing I want to see when watching him play on tv is the camera panning over to Anna with her frozen expression. I want to see the court, not her!!
 

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