Christian Dior Cruise 2024 Mexico City

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Salvatore said:
I just feel there are WAY too many shows. I know it is a part of marketing, but I feel having so many shows is useless. Shows used to be so special, but now the brands will release a new shirt and feel it needs a shows. Come on. Let’s find a new way to market the « off season » shows and leave the spectacle to HC and PAP ! I’m tired !!!
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didn't they just have a show two weeks ago! Thats too many!
 
it’s mediocre. nothing is exciting.
it’s either frumpy, ill fitting or culturally-in-your-face-inspired.
not one single piece is amazing.
maybe the white coat but they had to add that cheap a** looking belt.
she hasn’t designed anything unique or original since she started at Dior. ANYTHING.
go away.
 
Salvatore said:
I just feel there are WAY too many shows. I know it is a part of marketing, but I feel having so many shows is useless. Shows used to be so special, but now the brands will release a new shirt and feel it needs a shows. Come on. Let’s find a new way to market the « off season » shows and leave the spectacle to HC and PAP ! I’m tired !!!
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Salvatore said:
Yeah, Dior’s show count is excessive. That number of shows doesn’t make the label feel as prestigious or luxurious as they might think, in my book. In my opinion, it waters down everything. MGC is already one of the most consistently boring designers ever so all of these collections and shows are bleeding together. I cannot think of one look or moment that is memorable from her entire tenure. It’s really overkill to have all of these collections. There has to be a better way of operating than this !!!
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I think that another reason why Dior's show system is so messy is because we get 3 of their 4 destination shows in the space 2.5 months. Therefore, they cannibalise each other.

To add to that, Maria's designs are very quiet (bordering on silent), which leads to each collection being upstaged by the show setting, Maria's other collections and Kim's significantly louder and trendier collections.

Every other house does only one show in that March-June space and a good chunk of them will have their following show in September.

I do have a few solutions to fix this:
• Take advantage of the July - August and October - December gaps, instead of focusing solely on the now crowded March - June gap.
• Following Louis Vuitton and Gucci's example. Keep the spectacular destination show for the Women's Cruise and explore alternative formats for the remaining pre-collections: no-audience-shows, films, exhibitions, parties, traveling presentations.

Mutterlein said:
In ten years she'll probably still be there.
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I believe that Maria will most likely have a sizable tenure at Dior and that we're probably 50% - 70% through her reign.

I imagine that Dior probably won't suffer from poor sales, but irrelevant brand image when the aura to Galliano's tenure truly wears off. At that point, LVMH will decide that it's time to throw Dior back into the limelight.
 
LadyJunon said:
I think that another reason why Dior's show system is so messy is because we get 3 of their 4 destination shows in the space 2.5 months. Therefore, they cannibalise each other.

To add to that, Maria's designs are very quiet (bordering on silent), which leads to each collection being upstaged by the show setting, Maria's other collections and Kim's significantly louder and trendier collections.

Every other house does only one show in that March-June space and a good chunk of them will have their following show in September.

I do have a few solutions to fix this:
• Take advantage of the July - August and October - December gaps, instead of focusing solely on the now crowded March - June gap.
• Following Louis Vuitton and Gucci's example. Keep the spectacular destination show for the Women's Cruise and explore alternative formats for the remaining pre-collections: no-audience-shows, films, exhibitions, parties, traveling presentations.


I believe that Maria will most likely have a sizable tenure at Dior and that we're probably 50% - 70% through her reign.

I imagine that Dior probably won't suffer from poor sales, but irrelevant brand image when the aura to Galliano's tenure truly wears off. At that point, LVMH will decide that it's time to throw Dior back into the limelight.
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I can assure you it's not the Galliano days that are driving Dior's current success.

I think any appeal that era had came crashing down when he went on his drunken, drug-addled rant.
 
LadyJunon said:
Every other house does only one show in that March-June space and a good chunk of them will have their following show in September.

I do have a few solutions to fix this:
• Take advantage of the July - August and October - December gaps, instead of focusing solely on the now crowded March - June gap.
• Following Louis Vuitton and Gucci's example. Keep the spectacular destination show for the Women's Cruise and explore alternative formats for the remaining pre-collections: no-audience-shows, films, exhibitions, parties, traveling presentations.
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They are already all following the Chanel model by having shows for all the main seasons.
They started that with Pietro Beccari who has now installed it at Louis Vuitton. I really doubt that Delphine changes the model.

‘RTW is driving the sales so anything that can push the sales will be used.

But I don’t find it productive. The Chanel calendar works because there’s a reasonable gap between the shows and their arrival in the stores.

‘They have organized massive shows for Prefall one month ago and the collections will be in stores by the end of June.
 
As safe as MGC’s clothes are, I really find it hard to find fault with a consistent designer whose clothes resonante with a real woman and real customer base.

My only complaint with Dior is the extradionary cost and negative environmental impact that is being accrued with these mega-shows in these far-off places. Is it not enough to show in Pairs, why spend such absurd amounts of money to fly the masses to a location just for presss?
 
^ I'm not even that environmentally conscious and responsible (I love my chemicals), but this stresses me out too.. it feels like they just showed in India. It's just too much and excessive..

The collection is nice and not as uptight as it can be, but.. why oh why is it always Frida Kahlo? you'd think loving her not-so great work would be an incentive for curiosity and explore more but somehow, that's always the beginning and end of the cliché. Ready for the day someone wants to deliver some Tamayo/Carrington psychedelic s*it on the runway.
 
WOW! Ok, it seems no one has noticed she has made a dress embroidered with swear words all over it (in spanish)
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I never thought I would see a Dior dress with the words "bit.ch,re.tarded,lazy,fat,ugly, hysteric,feminazi,stupid,wh.ore"...but in spanish:"zorra,retrasada,vaga,gorda,fea,histerica,feminazi,estupida y puta".

I mean...who thought this was a good idea to begin with? Not even a drunk Galliano at his lowest delivered something like that!

About the mexican theme...well, this is as mexican as going to McDonald´s to taste mexican food, via one of their burguers with a bit of guacamole...
 
jeanclaude said:
WOW! Ok, it seems no one has noticed she has made a dress embroidered with swear words all over it (in spanish)
5wXaRUTb_o.jpg
.

I never thought I would see a Dior dress with the words "bit.ch,re.tarded,lazy,fat,ugly, hysteric,feminazi,stupid,wh.ore"...but in spanish:"zorra,retrasada,vaga,gorda,fea,histerica,feminazi,estupida y puta".

I mean...who thought this was a good idea to begin with? Not even a drunk Galliano at his lowest delivered something like that!

About the mexican theme...well, this is as mexican as going to McDonald´s to taste mexican food, via one of their burguers with a bit of guacamole...
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They probably did that as a "statement", but the delivery is so... :rofl::rofl::rofl:

The end may finally be nigh.
 
LadyJunon said:
They probably did that as a "statement", but the delivery is so... :rofl::rofl::rofl:

The end may finally be nigh.
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After the huge Balenciaga scandal, they really have a big nerve to launch this! I mean...not even at Vivienne Westwood (the cradle of punk) you can find a dress with curse words all over.
 
jeanclaude said:
I mean...who thought this was a good idea to begin with? Not even a drunk Galliano at his lowest delivered something like that!
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where does it say puta?

I guess you can take it out of context, or choose to look at the rest of the dresses.. there's a blender, an iron, a chair ('take a seat, woman'), references to the ultra sexist 1950s advertisements, and references to the high feminicide toll of Mexico (10 women are killed daily), which made headlines when women marched on the streets and damaged monuments. Men clutched their pearls like ' oh gOd nOO, nOt tHe MoNumEnTs Noooo!', and called them exactly that: 'ugly feminazis'. These are words men use when you 'cross' them (not unlike the 'ugly ovary producer' someone used here, in a post you liked). It's bold to reappropriate these insults but far more empowering than the 'girl power' also found here or some trite Jenny Holzer quote, because it addresses the dynamic without beating around the bush. I'm sure men will find it offensive but the ultimate consumer, women, will understand exactly what it means (not just random swear words).
 
jeanclaude said:
WOW! Ok, it seems no one has noticed she has made a dress embroidered with swear words all over it (in spanish)
5wXaRUTb_o.jpg
.

I never thought I would see a Dior dress with the words "bit.ch,re.tarded,lazy,fat,ugly, hysteric,feminazi,stupid,wh.ore"...but in spanish:"zorra,retrasada,vaga,gorda,fea,histerica,feminazi,estupida y puta".

I mean...who thought this was a good idea to begin with? Not even a drunk Galliano at his lowest delivered something like that!

About the mexican theme...well, this is as mexican as going to McDonald´s to taste mexican food, via one of their burguers with a bit of guacamole...
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That's honestly the coolest thing she's ever done.
 
MulletProof said:
where does it say puta?

I guess you can take it out of context, or choose to look at the rest of the dresses.. there's a blender, an iron, a chair ('take a seat, woman'), references to the ultra sexist 1950s advertisements, and references to the high feminicide toll of Mexico (10 women are killed daily), which made headlines when women marched on the streets and damaged monuments. Men clutched their pearls like ' oh gOd nOO, nOt tHe MoNumEnTs Noooo!', and called them exactly that: 'ugly feminazis'. These are words men use when you 'cross' them (not unlike the 'ugly ovary producer' someone used here, in a post you liked). It's bold to reappropriate these insults but far more empowering than the 'girl power' also found here or some trite Jenny Holzer quote, because it addresses the dynamic without beating around the bush. I'm sure men will find it offensive but the ultimate consumer, women, will understand exactly what it means (not just random swear words).
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"Ramera" is synonim of "puta". About the rest, you have to take the dress out of the show concept...and people won´t be aware of the "concept" of it all. Any customer going to a Dior shop, without knowing about the show but knowing spanish, would be shocked!
And this is Dior. Not a platform for this kind of performances!

PS. And what if I liked that post?? I am not a brand!
 
jeanclaude said:
Mexico is more than Frida and Ciudad Juarez women murders! Do you really think that is enough for a mexican-themed collection?? Try better!
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In truth, for the designer who birthed the feminist slogan T-shirt in the late 10s, this is actually quite cool. Chances are they won't sell it though in stores though...
 
Honestly this is not that bad and you all are bitching and moaning like it's Jacquemus or Harris Reed.

When was the last time Dior was genuinely interesting AND good? It had lost its luster long before Galliano self-destructed on camera.

Dior makes pretty, conservative clothes for old, boring, rich women. Oh my god! What is the world coming to?!
 
LadyJunon said:
In truth, for the designer who birthed the feminist slogan T-shirt in the late 10s, this is actually quite cool. Chances are they won't sell it though in stores though...
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It is way cooler than delivering interesting clothes worthy of the legacy of Dior, that´s for sure.
 
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