Christian Dior Pre-Fall 2013

[pivoslyakova]

i really love this collection, at first i didnt care but it looks so elegant and fresh!

 

[KemAlnagdy]

Now after seeing the full collection, I think he's renewing actually.
P.S: Marion's dress it there in blue.

 

[lepetitcouturier]

It's a little better. But the trousers/pants are SO played out. The way that white gown is styles is simply atrocious. And the blue dress that is a version of what Marion wore to the Golden Globes last night is not that great. His stuff his just so repetetive. And some of this looks a little too.. Balenciaga Spring 2013. So sick of his version of the Bar Suit. Just go away. XD

 

[TianCouture]

Love this! However, I get an weird Balenciaga feeling with some looks and will never understand why they put that black sleeveless jacket over that beautiful navy rose dress. Bad styling choice...

 

[disco54]

This is nice improvement but still lacking, I am not a fan of the bar jacket, it just looks odd to me.

 

[Not Plain Jane]

Like the long jacket.

 

[TaylorBinque]

Somehow, I really think this is much better than his first RTW collection. It has elements and heritage of Dior and also Raf. I really adore it. Plus, everything looks desirable. Though he's really targeting the younger clientele.

 

[christian zh]

Now this is really much better than his RTW collection.

I'm in love with this look


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[Zazie]

The full collection looks more interesting, the collaged and layered pieces, trains, etc., show a little of the old NG for Balenciaga and Pillati sharpness, but those conservative houndstooth and checks, the suits, the small tops with big skirts, the beautifully tailored white dress marred by the thick black stripes, the Galliano era Dior bags, are uninspiring. It's not easy to give a modern take to Dior - one of the most conservative 50s silhouettes out there before Galliano, and Galliano took it to a different place, polar opposite from RS - so I do understand. I am however convinced he will show similar clothes for FW2013, a sort of "debutante ball" look.


RS should study how NG did it at Balenciaga at the beginning, NG delivered hit collections and made us sit up while keeping the Balenciaga identity and DNA consistent.

 

[Scott]

to be honest,i think this very new territory for him. remember before jil sander,raf came from a strictly menswear background and with dior he's never dealt with having to design gowns and that frou-frou side of fashion. quiet and straightforward has always kind of been his approach. i think it's going to take a bit to develop a real voice in this endeavour. much like he did at jil sander which was obviously more up his alley.

 

[Zazie]

to be honest,i think this very new territory for him. remember before jil sander,raf came from a strictly menswear background and with dior he's never dealt with having to design gowns and that frou-frou side of fashion. quiet and straightforward has always kind of been his approach. i think it's going to take a bit to develop a real voice in this endeavour. much like he did at jil sander which was obviously more up his alley.

Yes, I do agree..he seems to be very cautious, and when he experimented, it didn't always hit the "right" note, eg. the neon irridiscence. Galliano made Dior frou-frou, so it's a very difficult act to follow for RS. Still, he should take a look at how NG did it, remember the first sensational Balenciaga with the white frills that looked more punk than sweet? Otherwise, Lemaire's debut at Hermes was more tailored yet still avant-garde and really refined in the traditional, voyageur Hermes way.

At Jil Sander, he did the best collection at the last, Miu Miu's current "volume" collection is all RS's finale there. It's also more feminine than Jil Sander ever was, so it looked like he would transition smoothly to Dior. His first Dior couture was super, but there has to be evolution from the conservative 50s padded wasp waist thing. Perhaps it's personal, but I really dislike the big pink balloon debutante skirts with T-shirt tops of a different color. He looks like he's dressing Audrey Hepburn in Roman Holiday.


Ok, I still adore him nonetheless, it'll take more than one or two disappointing collections to change that!

 

[Street_a_Licious]

i don't really think Raf is skewing for 'young', especially in the way how a lot of the looks are rather 'forgiving', shapewise...

 

[Littleathquakes]

The one piece I like the most is actually in the background...not even sure if it's part of the collection. it's the long dress with the horizontal stripes on a mannequin.

The full collection hasn't persuaded me that he's not a one trick pony.

 

[thejarc]

The preview was kind of badly chosen, as a whole is it rather nice. I like the layering and how he used shape on the upper body.

However, The checks look outdated and he needs to get rid of these tight top/wide skirt combinations.

 

[Lavieisashe]

Now this is really much better than his RTW collection.

I'm in love with this look


-style.com via Morphe

Me,too.
This is the only look i think was styled right.

But the bag is just eww.

 

[BBBBB]

It is somehow uncomfortable and akward, and but also amazing... Like it looks newer than new: color combinations and shapes that look matronly cleaned up and alienated. Jewelry.

 

[Scott]

Yes, I do agree..he seems to be very cautious, and when he experimented, it didn't always hit the "right" note, eg. the neon irridiscence. Galliano made Dior frou-frou, so it's a very difficult act to follow for RS. Still, he should take a look at how NG did it, remember the first sensational Balenciaga with the white frills that looked more punk than sweet? Otherwise, Lemaire's debut at Hermes was more tailored yet still avant-garde and really refined in the traditional, voyageur Hermes way.

At Jil Sander, he did the best collection at the last, Miu Miu's current "volume" collection is all RS's finale there. It's also more feminine than Jil Sander ever was, so it looked like he would transition smoothly to Dior. His first Dior couture was super, but there has to be evolution from the conservative 50s padded wasp waist thing. Perhaps it's personal, but I really dislike the big pink balloon debutante skirts with T-shirt tops of a different color. He looks like he's dressing Audrey Hepburn in Roman Holiday.


Ok, I still adore him nonetheless, it'll take more than one or two disappointing collections to change that!

i do recall that collection NG at Balenciaga. and even before that nicholas somehow carved out a niche for himself. it's interesting you talk about the tailoring and structure though because it is raf's bread & butter and it is something i hope he can employ more of down the line. but i like that he's trying to incorporate the real history of the house though....but maybe in a way that marries with his experimental side.

 

[Zazie]

i do recall that collection NG at Balenciaga. and even before that nicholas somehow carved out a niche for himself. it's interesting you talk about the tailoring and structure though because it is raf's bread & butter and it is something i hope he can employ more of down the line. but i like that he's trying to incorporate the real history of the house though....but maybe in a way that marries with his experimental side.

I was looking forward to that too, the play and experiments in tailoring, shapes, construction, colors, textures, etc., that he's shown with menswear, and which Phoebe Philo surprised her fans and critics with at Celine, didn't know she could deliver the new sophisticated shapes in coats, jackets, suits, trousers for women after all the girlish, frilly, lacy, retro 70s stuff at Chloe.

Understand that Dior is more feminine than Celine, but NG, Miu Miu and Lemaire showed that feminine can be about all the great tailored pieces without the hourglass, and Theyskens Theory showed how hourglass can be modern without the heavy handedness.

There's a little of that in the collaged pieces here, yes, love the forest green-loden grey, marine blue-yellow layers...so Raf Simons...., while the frumpy notes are in those pieces that look like hostages to Dior history, sort of Oscar de la Renta socialites.

 

[Voyage]

I really love this, I think this really captures the current moment with minimalism, getting much more bang for your buck and really focusing on true wearability but I think he's really defining aspects of the Christian Dior archive, I feel like he could really compare to Ghesquiere with how he revolutionized Balenciaga with his take on the archive there, I don't know why I'm saying that but I really have faith in Raf at Dior, more so than Galliano who really did get repetitive when he dumbed down his vision in favor of pleasing his bosses, whereas this is Raf through and through and I absolutely love it, because I don't feel Raf has dumbed himself down at all, in fact his genius is shining through.

I think Raf will really divide opinions during his reign at Dior.

exactly this, if you look at the Dior archives. You'll find the same silhouettes. Raf is re-creating the pure Dior designs in a modern way. I always hated galliano's work for Dior, it was too much. He always overdid it in my opinion.