Louis Vuitton Mens S/S 2019 Paris

[IndigoHomme]

I can feel some "Raf Simons and his Sterling Ruby print dresses for Dior" vibes in some looks, i do not know how this can work if we think will be logos head to toe

 

[reesewu]

Look at someone as talented as Pierpaolo from Valentino and that crap of a collection that he has just showed...

YES! In Virgil's defense, he's not the only one who churned out grotesque offering this season. I pretty much loathe every collection inspired by streetwear or hypebeast that we've been seeing in every city. Even Raf, who used to be at the forefront of this movement, got lazy and relied on pseudo-intellectual styling. Hypebeasts have ruined fashion and for now, I can only keep looking forward to the day where elegance, great cut, and gimmick-free fashion becomes the zeitgeist again.

 

[Fashionstuff]

Tbh, it's really difficult to be disappointed when you don't expect anything at all.
Beside the symbolic that it is for Black Americans (because i think that Ozwald Boateng at Givenchy and Olivier Rousteing at Balmain are actually real statement of how to showcase black TALENTED people at big fashion houses), this is a quite weak show.

The highlight of the collection is really the cast. It's a beautiful cast with a lot of handsome man. I really like to see the singer from The Internet and Kid Cudi and others...It's really great.

The clothes are a non-event because Virgil Abloh at Vuitton is not about clothes. It's about hype, culture, influence and commerce. This is the way for Vuitton to attract a younger clientele but also to speak to the most influencial community of our era, the Hip-Hop scene. Nobody cares about quality of design. It's only about who and where...

I think VA represents pretty well our era which is all about "The Apology of Mediocricy". We have what we deserve with this one and i think it sends the wrong signal to the world.
I find it very problematic that today, the creative side of fashion industry is maybe the only industry in the world where we put in the forefront people only because they are cool. Their skills, their talent is a second thought...It's tragic.

I don't imagine Bernard Arnault or anyone at LVMH hiring a banker, a seamstress, a PR person only because that person is cool or because of who is around him.

There's a lack of culture in fashion today. It's in the history of fashion, because it seems like for a lot people, fashion started with Margiela and Helmut Lang. And i'm sorry but if for you fashion started in 1988 and 1986, then we have a problem.
And there's a lack of culture in the knowledge of clothes-making. It's all about the look, the moodboard, spending more time into explaining an obvious lack of expertise than spending time on cut.

We sometimes forget it but the Ateliers are all the same as before and if as a fashion designer, your eye and your knowledge about what is supposed to be your job is weak, then you can't go anywhere.

But at the end of the day, all that long text is irrelevant because this will sell and that's the only thing that matters. Look at someone as talented as Pierpaolo from Valentino and that crap of a collection that he has just showed...

Vomite inducing. Maria Grazia and Kim Jones look talented compared with this...guy.

Well, even when I decided to not comment anymore is almost impossible for me to shut up my mouth.

Everything I hate of fashion in one single show. Bravo. From all those idiots with their cellphones -ughr, it should be forbidden-, Kanye West claping and smiling at his own song, hideous soundtack, terrible styling and obviously a very vapid collection. The whole atmosphere makes me mad. I want all this to dissapear ASAP. I just want to wake up and remember this as the dark era of fashion. Watching him crying -and few people on the audience- doesn't move me a little bit. It's so fake. Just for the sake of money.

I really miss the era when people were talented and serious. When people that I respect a lot -Suzanne Koller, for example- wasn't move by hype, Instagram and all those stuffs. I'd love to read what Cathy have to say about this crap.

What makes me more angry is the fact that brands like Rick Owens or Undercover -that showed TERRIFIC COLLECTIONS- doesn't have a thread yet.

Exactly.
Agree with all what @Lola701 and @Helmutnotdead wrote.

I had the same feeling watching the show.

And i don't like cast. White on black, musicians, all is good but i would like to see also european models.
The bags will sells but i'm not sure about the clothes. Maybe the first collection because of hype around VA and Kanye and Kim presence.

 

[Deleted member 1957]

while the collection was nowhere near good, I appreciate the casting. Having a majority black cast (especially black models opening at the beginning in all white) was beautiful, and a lot of the musicians/personalities that were mixed in have been active in Virgil's life. I thought that was special.

Also the diversity was the best thing about this. Finally a show where the majority of models are models of color. I also loved that there were asian models, especially Indian ones. We rarely see that

Agreed, the casting was a huge statement in itself.

 

[Nocturnal]

I can't believe this is happening. I think we all find it awful. Everything about this collection is horrible. Poor construction, ugly, cheap looking fabrics, lazy styling. There is clearly no vision. It looks like he “designed” it few days before the show.

The show was terrible. Soundtrack was unendurable. I had to turn off the sound. Cast was diverse however most of the models were...ugly. This not a Vetements show.

 

[reesewu]

And i don't like cast. White on black, musicians, all is good but i would like to see also european models.
The bags will sells but i'm not sure about the clothes. Maybe the first collection because of hype around VA and Kanye and Kim presence.

We don't know for sure if all models of color in the show are not Europeans. Some could be. Unless, if what you mean by "european models" are white models, though.

 

[VogueDisciple93]

This is a offensively bad regurgitation of Helmut Lang’s Fall 1998 show.

 

[Deleted member 141309]

The collection is disastrous - what is that art school design? The cast is try-hard as hell, even though better than no diversity. Black designer features the majority of black models and a black rapper as a key artist of his soundtrack. That LGBT reminiscent runway? No, thanks (and I say this as a gay man). This level of pretentiousness makes me sick, this does not promote collaborative relationships between people, just shows how desperate Abloh is to get the attention. Please feature all races, sexes and other differences equally if you want to promote equality, don't just send these gimmicks.

I feel like nowadays any minor and even questionable effort for promoting equality and rights is blindly taken as great, hence whatever underlying concepts, reasons and connotations can be behind it.

 

[mepps]

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I'll say this, Loved the casting! So much black beauty and those gorgeous Indian models. Not the most exciting or interesting collection, but it will definitely sell. That's really all that matters to LVMH and the instagram crowd.

 

[helmutnotdead]

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Such a pity that press is not going to be killer as they were with Lapidus.

 

[Lola701]

I'm reading some of the comments and i'm puzzled by some criticizing the cast. There are 56 looks (the whole collection wasn't posted here), a lot of diversity. I see "European models" or whatever that means (i don't know maybe they should walk with their passport on) and white looks good on black people as red looks good on caucasian models.
I'm failing to understand how this is gimmick because if i can remember, Demna showed us a cast of all white models for seasons because that's what he is surrounded with.

It's good to see that Virgil use the opportunity of his Vuitton gig to finally showcase his world (that i failed to see at his own line shows for years).

Rappers at his show is as legitimate as skinny rockers at Hedi's ones.

 

[Deleted member 141309]

Well, I can elaborate on my point of view, but I am sure it will lead to a long discussion and I doubt it would be comprehended calmly by the majority.
Personally, there are just more stronger, more powerful, and less in-your-face ways of celebrating gender, race, age and etc.

 

[StoneSkipper]

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The cast is definitely the most interesting thing about this collection, by far. The more I see these looks, the less I like them - there's always something off, from the tie-dye-esque patterns, to the Oz prints that feel completely out of touch, to the vests with the horrendous built-in bags, to the weird zip-up sports jackets that feel way too Armani-ish, to the cut of the pants that feels either billowy or just plain odd... I guess I liked his use of color, and some of the coats. The best I can say about it is that it's not disastrous.

 

[reese06]

I'm interested in seeing how these pieces will be priced.

It's hard for me to imagine these pieces priced at the same level of Kim Jones' menswear. They are missing design and the level of luxury and not to mention the materials do not look expensive.

 

[Nymphaea]

The first part reminds me a tiny bit of Rick Owens, the second part Raf Simons/Balenciaga. Well, he follows the trends.

 

[helmutnotdead]

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Kudos to Virgil for distracting us with the casting haha. I celebrate what he did in part but in the other hand it doesn't feel natural. Take a look at an Eckhaus Latta casting and you will see the diference.

 

[BetteT]

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[jeanclaude]

I am gonna summarize this collection and show in just one word (Off-White style "NEPOTISM"

 

[ghostwriter10549]

Well, it's certainly what I expected it would look like - and certainly what they hired him for.*It's an upscale version of Off-White, in the same veins of Vetements/Balenciaga. To be honest I enjoyed way more than I expected. I really enjoyed the first half of the show, great colors. I was less convinced with the tie dye and utilitarian looks. The bags are nice too. It's gonna be really intriguing how he'll take it from here, I'm excited.

I know everyone here will despise it but it's gonna sell extremely well. This is what the current costumer wants.

And most of all, the whole show felt like a true EVENT. From the overall hype, the amazing venue, to the fantastic almost entirely POC cast... those all white looks in an all black cast was such a potent statement. Menswear and fashion in general needed this.

Im TOTALY with you Marc.

Lets just not fool ourselves: this is supposed to be Off-White 2.0 since day one, and thats why I liked, because this time he not trying to look more than this.

Menswear is the thing that VA should stick with. It always looked less pretentious than his womenswear and now, in a BIG fashion house, it looks sharp and makes sense, its commercial and profitable. Period. If I could, I would buy some LV bag now.

And yes, menswear fashion week now have a new meaning, people are now looking at it and I think that at the end of day, everybody can have a piece of the pie. Designers as JWA, Rick, Rafs and Jacquemus, for exemple, are have a directly benefit from this, so Im happy.

Im not gonna be angry about any aspect of this collection and I would suggest that everyone in this forum the same thing.

 

[Les_Sucettes]

Well no one can accuse him of not capturing the zeitgeist, what it says about the zeitgeist is a whole different story...