Louis Vuitton Mens S/S 2019 Paris

[YohjiAddict]

The first half of the show was nothing groundbreaking and was heavily indebted to Helmut's 1998 fall show, however with the colors it looked like an improved version of what he does at Off-White. The twist he gave to the quilted vests was the highlight for me.

The second half was mess, tacky fabrics and prints. He should have saved it all for future monthly drops instead of showing it on a catwalk, none of it makes sense and it cheapens the show. Overall nothing special but nothing as offensive as his womenswear line, it's clear that hype is the only thing going on for him.

 

[mepps]

I'm reading some of the comments and i'm puzzled by some criticizing the cast. There are 56 looks (the whole collection wasn't posted here), a lot of diversity. I see "European models" or whatever that means (i don't know maybe they should walk with their passport on) and white looks good on black people as red looks good on caucasian models.
I'm failing to understand how this is gimmick because if i can remember, Demna showed us a cast of all white models for seasons because that's what he is surrounded with.

It's good to see that Virgil use the opportunity of his Vuitton gig to finally showcase his world (that i failed to see at his own line shows for years).

Rappers at his show is as legitimate as skinny rockers at Hedi's ones.

Yes! To all of this!

 

[RedSmokeRise]

it's fine. Like everyone else I don't expect him to push the boundaries of creativity. The casting was great (IMO anwyays).

None of it matters if this collection will sell out just by his name association alone. He's got basically everyone talking about it. Which is what LVMH wants right?

Wonder how much more 'hype' the general public can take.

 

[tctra]

The chains on the bags look cheap and nasty

 

[disco54]

Reality is street fashion in most Urban cities be it New York, London or Paris are shaped by HipHop, not rock music its been like that since the 80s. A lot of this reminds me of young people hanging out in Queens in the early mid 90s, the shapes reminded me of that , but instead of baggy red Exhaust jeans they have been redone in fluid pants and there is refinement. I enjoyed this tbh and as others mentioned LV will be able more influential in shaping menswear now.

 

[Lola701]

^^
Yes but that has been the case for years now. Virgil didn't started it so the job of a designer is to actually elevate the whole thing.
Abloh is not doing anything new here and everybody acting like it's revolutionary is silly.

Too bad the industry is still sleeping on Phillip Lim because he could have done wonderful things here.

 

[Fashionstuff]

I'm reading some of the comments and i'm puzzled by some criticizing the cast. There are 56 looks (the whole collection wasn't posted here), a lot of diversity. I see "European models" or whatever that means (i don't know maybe they should walk with their passport on) and white looks good on black people as red looks good on caucasian models.
I'm failing to understand how this is gimmick because if i can remember, Demna showed us a cast of all white models for seasons because that's what he is surrounded with.

It's good to see that Virgil use the opportunity of his Vuitton gig to finally showcase his world (that i failed to see at his own line shows for years).

Rappers at his show is as legitimate as skinny rockers at Hedi's ones.

I mean white models because if you want do it better, do diversity you have to give space for everybody.

And white looks on black models it is cliché and in this contest it comes not so good.
Exept this, the clothes must look good on everyone who want buy them. White is good for summer but he did too many white pieces.
I saw the sneakers, looking very Off-White,only with LV on the sole and on patch or whatever it is. Take LV and Virgil out and nobody will give a cent for this clohtes, sneakers ect.

 

[Les_Sucettes]

Reality is street fashion in most Urban cities be it New York, London or Paris are shaped by HipHop, not rock music its been like that since the 80s. A lot of this reminds me of young people hanging out in Queens in the early mid 90s, the shapes reminded me of that , but instead of baggy red Exhaust jeans they have been redone in fluid pants and there is refinement. I enjoyed this tbh and as others mentioned LV will be able more influential in shaping menswear now.

You seem to forget that the early, mid 90’s was the grunge era, that’s actually the ultimate European high school look back then, and then also in Europe afterwords Britpop also brought with it it’s own fashion. I cannot speak for the US. HipHop was already shaping fashion but not at all in the way that undoubtedly does now. It was still interconnected to people that actually heard the music. That’s why I do not think you can make that parallel.

 

[disco54]

You seem to forget that the early, mid 90’s was the grunge era, that’s actually the ultimate European high school look back then, and then also in Europe afterwords Britpop also brought with it it’s own fashion. I cannot speak for the US. HipHop was already shaping fashion but not at all in the way that undoubtedly does now. It was still interconnected to people that actually heard the music. That’s why I do not think you can make that parallel.

Grunge emanated out of Seattle , but even in the early 90s I can say with confidence , youth fashion in urban cities , especially in inner cities was completely influenced by Hiphop , be it New York or London. Plaid is not necessarily a Grunge element, as ***** gangs have been plaid shirts forever.

 

[Les_Sucettes]

Grunge emanated out of Seattle , but even in the early 90s I can say with confidence , youth fashion in urban cities , especially in inner cities was completely influenced by Hiphop , be it New York or London. Plaid is not necessarily a Grunge element, as ***** gangs have been plaid shirts forever.

We are going to have agree to disagree, being European and always having lived in urban environments, Hiphop was not in any way or form the main influence that shaped the way people dressed in Europe at all in the early to mid 90's. It does not matter that ***** gangs used plaid shirts forever (you be hard pressed to find anyone that even knew what a ***** gangs was in Europe), the way people dressed was influenced by mainstream. Like it always is. The total dominance of Hiphop is a much later phenomenon.
I cannot speak for the American experience, and this is not a discussion about the origins of a popular look, it does not matter one jot if plaid is originally a grunge element (that's got to be the most arid discussions in fashion), it simply became one, cool kids wanted to look like Eddie Vedder or Kurt Cobain, and they would dress and cut their hair accordingly, simple as that. And if we talk about the UK, we cannot talk about the 90's without the extraordinary influence of Britpop in the way people dressed. Don't get me wrong, I'm not saying that Hiphop was not already very popular and was not shaping the way some people dressed, but it was not just a look totally disconnected from a group, that's why i cannot any parallels between now and then. The charts in Europe of that era were dominated by dance music, grunge and Britpop, it's not that difficult to picture what kids were wearing if you know the main influencers.

 

[Benn98]

We are going to have agree to disagree, being European and always having lived in urban environments, Hiphop was not in any way or form the main influence that shaped the way people dressed in Europe at all in the early to mid 90's. It does not matter that ***** gangs used plaid shirts forever (you be hard pressed to find anyone that even knew what a ***** gangs was in Europe), the way people dressed was influenced by mainstream. Like it always is. The total dominance of Hiphop is a much later phenomenon.
I cannot speak for the American experience, and this is not a discussion about the origins of a popular look, it does not matter one jot if plaid is originally a grunge element (that's got to be the most arid discussions in fashion), it simply became one, cool kids wanted to look like Eddie Vedder or Kurt Cobain, and they would dress and cut their hair accordingly, simple as that. And if we talk about the UK, we cannot talk about the 90's without the extraordinary influence of Britpop in the way people dressed. Don't get me wrong, I'm not saying that Hiphop was not already very popular and was not shaping the way some people dressed, but it was not just a look totally disconnected from a group, that's why i cannot any parallels between now and then. The charts in Europe of that era were dominated by dance music, grunge and Britpop, it's not that difficult to picture what kids were wearing if you know the main influencers.

Thanks for this! I may have been very small at the time, but I recall it being like this. American culture are not as polarising as people claim it to be. I never saw a ***** gang at all growing up, neither did I see the style on the streets.

I would just like to add that LFW helped tremendously with the rise of streetwear to it's current state. For years London designers have been churning out looks which by most of the fashion community were deemed 'too creative', 'too avant-garde', 'too unwearable'. That's why it's somewhat comical to see not only the Tumblr generation, but also working, professional fashion photographers and stylists build up a little shrine of 90s Hip Hop as the ultimate catalyst for contemporary streetwear. It's preposterous and so ill-informed.

 

[disco54]

Thanks for this! I may have been very small at the time, but I recall it being like this. American culture are not as polarising as people claim it to be. I never saw a ***** gang at all growing up, neither did I see the style on the streets.

I would just like to add that LFW helped tremendously with the rise of streetwear to it's current state. For years London designers have been churning out looks which by most of the fashion community were deemed 'too creative', 'too avant-garde', 'too unwearable'. That's why it's somewhat comical to see not only the Tumblr generation, but also working, professional fashion photographers and stylists build up a little shrine of 90s Hip Hop as the ultimate catalyst for contemporary streetwear. It's preposterous and so ill-informed.

Whats wrong with elevating HipHop influences? Veiled prejudices much.

 

[Benn98]

Whats wrong with elevating HipHop influences? Veiled prejudices much.

What do you mean? I only meant that most hypebeast/streetwear fanatics are misguided about the origin of this specific wave.

 

[disco54]

What do you mean? I only meant that most hypebeast/streetwear fanatics are misguided about the origin of this specific wave.

Don't act so coy. In any case to each his own but relative to other men's collections I see this resonating more with the youth of today.

 

[kenndale]

The oversized pants seem as if he did it out of laziness and not design.

 

[vetements]

By this point, I am confused if these brands are shaping us, or us shaping them anymore.
I don’t know if you need a formal fashion design degree to produce this collection.

Commercialism a resounding yes, but are we able to see proportion, shapes, color, cutting etc in place?

 

[Perickles]

I love the diversity of the cast and some outfits are really great!

 

[Norden]

i don't care about the cast at all. in the end this feels like a bunch of clothes without direction. This will work for the audience, but we can't look at this brand for directional collections. in the end, its a bag house.

 

[Ken Doll Jenner]

I made an attempt to reexamine the collection and I gotta say, some looks are actually tolerable, particularly the Helmut Lang rip-offs. But I couldn't help but wonder, wouldn't it be a lot more exciting had Nicolas taken over LV's Menswear instead? I mean, ever since S/S 2015, we've been seeing how well-received his womenswear was by male celebrities (e.g. Jaden Smith, Xavier Dolan). I actually think his appointment would generate as much hype as Virgil's given the whole gender-bending zeitgeist that today's liberal-leaning state of fashion capitalizes on. On top of that, the quality of the offering would be much more remarkable.

Let Virgil grow first with Off-White, the guy barely made it here for a decade. Or else, be prepared to witness another Alexander Wang, an individual with potential who seemed unable to handle the pressures of a historic, big house, which as a result, jeopardized both his line and the said house.

 

[MetroMelannie]

Agree on the second point. He will need strong support from the LV team to keep the whole story active. But if you ask me I think he might be on a 2-years contract just enough for LV to catch with the Streetwear trend.