Major Designers Copying The Little Ones.

[gius]

What is this about?

 

[aybaybay]

What is this about?

(Shark) Biters.

Those designs that bite others, i.e. biters.

 

[tangerine]

A designer copying the ideas of another designer. "Biting" is slang for (design) plagiarism.

 

[aybaybay]

A designer copying the ideas of another designer. "Biting" is slang for (design) plagiarism.

thx tang. vry eloquent way of describing it.

also, just to clarify, this isnt about ripoff brands...those aren't really designed. so no hare or h&m or all that. it's got to be a designer.

 

[gius]

Thanks...

And what is shark?

 

[aybaybay]

Thanks...

And what is shark?

that comes from the song "shark n****s (biters)" by raekwon, from his album Only Built 4 Cuban Linx

 

[mademoiselle_]

Everybody is making the saaaaame thing.

You might don't know this but before collections there are people who make social studies in order to get information about what the world want, when the study is finished they take the results to designers, let's say: their study proved that for fall 2008 the trend is going to be 50's color green, 20's shoes (it's an example) so they go and give these result to designer and from there they start making the collection.

Haven't you wondered why all of them have the same trends in the same season?
It's not that they're copying, imagine if they did all different there would be no trends

one thing is the resamble to past collections

 

[aybaybay]

i'm not going to say that you missed the point completely...but you're missing the point. adhering to a trend is only a weak form of biting. in fact if you're just trying to sell clothing, that doesn't make you a designer, it makes you a business man. biting is much more egregious.

 

[mademoiselle_]

i'm not going to say that you missed the point completely...but you're missing the point. adhering to a trend is only a weak form of biting. in fact if you're just trying to sell clothing, that doesn't make you a designer, it makes you a business man. biting is much more egregious.

what does it has to do with what I said? I don't understand

you're the one missing the point of what I said.

 

[tangerine]

General trends tested by focus groups are not designs; the subject is specific design ideas that are copied by another designer.

If someone made a pair of jeans with the trademark Dior Homme dart on the back pockets, that would be a "bite."

Making slim jeans is a trend; adding the specific detail turns it into a bite.

 

[gius]

a lot of people say Prada is just like this
i wonder what designers they are referring to...

similarity is one thing and copying is another.

aybaybay it would be nice if you could post your own example, just to show this really exists

 

[tangerine]

I would like to see some current examples, too.

Here is an old thread about some older examples of it.

 

[SomethingElse]

I'd like to see examples too, because I don't understand. The term shark bites seems like knock-off and infringement.

 

[kezme44]

i'm not going to say that you missed the point completely...but you're missing the point. adhering to a trend is only a weak form of biting. in fact if you're just trying to sell clothing, that doesn't make you a designer, it makes you a business man. biting is much more egregious.

i have no idea what you are talking about...and i don't think you do either

 

[seanutbutter]

^ I second this.

 

[fashionistasista]

i think i get what he is trying to say

a blue striped dress appeares on the catwalk...

biting: is taking a blue dress with stripes that clearly only was released by one design house the previous season, now is on the catwalk of annother fashion house looking suspiciously similar (colour, cut, detail etc) to the one from the last season.

trend forcast: when a trend is seen, a few people have started to head in a 'blue' direction and perhaps a 'striped' direction and alot of houses start releasing blue and striped dresses.

there does seem to be a fine line though.

perhaps recent examples:

trend forcasting, 'chloe' dresses appearing on every catwalk (even though this was a trend already on the catwalks at lanvin etc)

'biting' the LV coloured and resurgence of the classic print on bags caused prints 'very close' to the LV signature print being placed on everything from baby phat to $2 bags sold on the side of the road.

 

[defiled]

i think recently a lot of designers have been copying calvin klein...

 

[aybaybay]

hmmm...how to explain...

do you guys know the difference between an auteur and just a regular director? this difference must exist in clothing right?

 

[aybaybay]

i think i get what he is trying to say

a blue striped dress appeares on the catwalk...

biting: is taking a blue dress with stripes that clearly only was released by one design house the previous season, now is on the catwalk of annother fashion house looking suspiciously similar (colour, cut, detail etc) to the one from the last season.

trend forcast: when a trend is seen, a few people have started to head in a 'blue' direction and perhaps a 'striped' direction and alot of houses start releasing blue and striped dresses.

there does seem to be a fine line though.

perhaps recent examples:

trend forcasting, 'chloe' dresses appearing on every catwalk (even though this was a trend already on the catwalks at lanvin etc)

'biting' the LV coloured and resurgence of the classic print on bags caused prints 'very close' to the LV signature print being placed on everything from baby phat to $2 bags sold on the side of the road.

see, this is shark biting.

 

[gius]

hmmm...how to explain...

do you guys know the difference between an auteur and just a regular director? this difference must exist in clothing right?

i see...
so for regular director, you probably think of... a designer who changes season after season

auteur... someone who is consistent,
clothes you see and you say 'yep, this must be by...'

auteur: a filmmaker whose individual style and complete control over all elements of production give a film its personal and unique stamp.
dictionary.com

Ok then...
Let's pick on designers who change season after season
and try to see if there's any connection to their designs to another designer's
Prada
Marc Jacobs
Louis Vuitton?
Who else...