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Zazie said:Take music as an analogy. You have amazing musicians like Horowitz or Gould who play beautifully and even innovatively by creating new techniques with the piano, but they are not composers in the same way as Stravinsky or Beethoven. In fact, they play the compositions of these masters. It is only when they come out with their own original pieces that are different from others that they can be called composers. This still makes Horowitz a legendery piano player, though he isn't a composer, i.e., he doesn't design music, he plays it.
Of course there are good and bad composers, just as there are good and bad designers.
It's the same with Grant. You can say he is an amazing tailor with fantastic technique, but he isn't a designer, the way Chanel, CD, Mary Quant, etc. are designers. It doesn't diminish his talents in any way, though.
Zazie, nice to see you back, although I think I disagree with you here

I don't think I've seen you say that any other designers weren't actually designers ... so the ones you mention are known for changing the landscape ... what exactly does one have to do to be classed as a designer in your classification?
To me, it's Zara and the like who attempt to "play the works of the masters" as copyists, the tailors who can & will reproduce anything (and sometimes do it absolutely excellently) who are the pianists ... that seems like the proper analogy to me.
Now there are good composers, bad composers ... traditional composers, avant garde composers ... all composers nonetheless. You don't have to be talented even to be a composer ... you simply have to engage in the act of writing music. Even if people cover their ears & scream, you are still a composer
