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By: Will Harris (
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Interview date: 08/05/2008/
Run date: 08/18/2008
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After surviving the it-seemed-like-a-good-idea-at-the-time series that was ABC’s “Big Shots,” we would’ve forgiven Michael Vartan if he was currently camping outside J.J. Abrams’ door, clutching a pitch for “Alias: The Next Generation,” but we’re even happier to announce that he’s still out there, fighting the good fight as a film actor. As of this writing, he’s only a few weeks away from shooting a comedy with David Cross (“Demoted”), but Bullz-Eye had a chance to speak with Vartan about a film of his which recently – and, it must be said, unjustly – went straight to video: “Rogue,” an Australian-set horror flick about a giant crocodile, written and directed by “Wolf Creek” auteur Greg McLean. (Trust us, it’s better than it sounds; the film contains gorgeous shots of the Australian wildlife and landscape which could fit easily into a Discovery Channel program.) Vartan spoke of his work on “Rogue,” his excitement about “Demoted,” regaled us with a few theories about why “Big Shots” didn’t work, and let us in on the one plot twist he could never convince Abrams to do with Vaughn on “Alias.”
Bullz-Eye: Hello?
Michael Vartan: Hey, is this Will?
BE: It is.
MV: Hey, man, it’s Michael Vartan? How’re you doing?
BE: I’m good…and I totally still need to get my digital recorder hooked up, so if you can give me just a second…?
MV: Oh, sure, man, sure. Modern technology, huh? Wonderful thing. So much for the days of the shorthand writer!
BE: And good for that, since I don’t know the first thing about shorthand. If it wasn’t for this recorder, you’d be listening to me typing frantically in the background while not really paying attention to anything that you’re saying. Into the ear, onto the page, and on to the next question.
MV: (
Laughs) I hear ya.
BE: Okay, we’re good…and let me just start by saying that, man, “Rogue” was great! I was really pleasantly surprised! And I mean that in the best possible way. I just deal with so many straight-to-video horror movies that are so awful, but this was fantastic.
“On “Rogue”: “The way my agent originally presented the project was not all that flattering. They said, ‘How do you feel about going to the Outback for four months and doing a giant crocodile movie?’ And I said, ‘Well, I’d rather have needles in my eyes, frankly.’”
MV: Well, thank you! I appreciate that! We certainly like it. We certainly enjoyed doing it, and we were very disappointed at the way it was released in commercial life. But, hey, those are things that, as an actor, you really have no control over. So, y’know, moving on, moving forward. But, yeah, it’s a movie that has a special place in my heart because of the shooting experience I had making it. But it’s a really good movie! Y’know, I just like the way it’s made, and I’m so happy that the guy doesn’t get the girl in that awkward scene where they’re about to be eaten by the croc! You know what I mean?
BE: (Laughs) Absolutely!
MV: In every movie, there’s that scene. “Are you kidding? You’re about to be devoured by a 24-foot animal, and you’ve got time to kiss and make out…? What is
wrong with you people?” But, anyway. That was my favorite part in the script, by the way.
BE: Oh, really?
MV: Yeah, I called Greg, and I said, “They don’t make out! This is awesome! You’re the best!” Finally, a movie that’s kind of
real!
BE: Lord knows you don’t see enough of those in the horror genre.
MV: And they’re always falling down at the wrong moment, y’know? It’s, like, the guy’s been running for fifteen years, he’s never slipped and tripped, but if a T. Rex is chasing him, you know he’s going down!
BE: It was just gorgeous to look at, too. I presume it was equally gorgeous just to be there.
MV: It was absolutely jaw-dropping. We very, very early on got a sense that the landscape was one of the big stars of the movie. It’s really hard to explain how beautiful the Northern territory is. It’s the only place I’ve ever been to in my life where you actually get a sense of pre-history. It’s remained unchanged for millions of years, and we were shooting in sacred Aboriginal ground – we were lucky enough to get a permit from the local tribe leaders – and these are places that arguably very, very few white people have ever seen, and it’s absolutely breathtaking! And it’s majestic, and it’s just…it’s wild, and it’s scary, and it’s beautiful, all at the same time. And to be there and to be shooting, surrounded by these real saltwater crocs…a little scary element was that if something happened to one of us, whether crew or cast or whatever, we were literally three hours from any hospital! (
Laughs) But it was just a completely wild experience, and, yeah, the landscape was just breathtaking. It was just…well-captured, I think, in the film, especially in the opening sequence. It’s just mesmerizing.
BE: What was your knowledge of Greg McLean prior to the film? Had you seen “Wolf Creek”? Were you aware of it?
MV: I saw it before…yeah, before I decided to do “Rogue,” I went to see “Wolf Creek,” just to see what this lunatic was all about. (
Laughs) And that was one of the most disturbing and scariest movies I’ve seen in a very long time, and I was thrilled by that, of course. And he promised to give me a lot of those behind-the-back recorder shots that are so spooky, because you can totally tell what’s going on with the character, and you don’t need to have close-ups in every Hollywood movie, you know what I mean? (
Laughs) But I’d just seen “Wolf Creek,” and we had an hour or two long conversation on the phone, and he’s the most easygoing, nicest, most ego-free guy. It was like talking to an old friend, and I thought, “Wow, it could be such a fun experience.” I’d never been to Australia, so it was kind of a no-brainer for me.
BE: Yeah, actually, I was going to ask if you’d been there before.
MV: No, I hadn’t. It’s actually funny. The way my agent originally presented the project was not all that flattering. They said, “How do you feel about going to the Outback for four months and doing a giant crocodile movie?” And I said, “Well, I’d rather have needles in my eyes, frankly.” (Laughs) But then, of course, I learned more about it. I read the script, which I loved, and I saw “Wolf Creek” and I got to speak to Greg, so that all changed very quickly, obviously.
BE: My wife’s biggest suspension of disbelief that was required was that you had packed your laptop in your luggage. “Nobody does that,” she said.
MV: (
Laughs) Well, I
am a travel writer, and I was writing an article on the Australian Outback, and of
course they lost my bags at the airport.
BE: Right, true, but I think her thought was that, as a travel writer, you would’ve had your laptop on the plane with you.
MV: Oh, I see. Yeah, that’s true. He probably
wouldn’t put it in his bag. Well, you’ll need to talk to Greg on that one!
BE: I’ll be sure to ring him up after we wrap up here. So I wanted to ask you about “Big Shots.”
MV: Yeah?
BE: Actually, I was at the panel for the show at last summer’s TCA tour.
MV: Oh, at the Beverly Hilton?
BE: Exactly. In fact, I was the one who caused one of your co-stars to jump up frantically and start yelling at me. (Writer’s note: For the story, click here and scroll down to where I speak of the Panelist Who Found Me the Least Helpful.)
MV: (
Deadpan) I cannot imagine which one of them that would be.
“On “Big Shots”: “It was a great group of people to work with, but it just wasn’t coming together, and you’ve got to know when to cut your losses. And we did. But… (lowering his voice) …you could kind of blame it on the writer’s strike, which is what we did!”
BE: I’m sure you cannot. (Laughs) And, yet, it was ironic, because all I was doing was following up on a comment he’d made in an interview I’d done with him, where he mentioned that he hadn’t really liked “Big Shots” for the title of the show, and that there had been other suggestions out there.
MV: Oh, yeah. None of us liked it.
BE: But when I brought that up, he thought I was ragging on him when I really wasn’t.
MV: Oh, I see. Well, y’know, I’m not going to say anything bad about it, because now it’s in the past, but that certainly wasn’t a highlight of my career. So we’ll leave it at that. It was a great group of people to work with, but it just wasn’t coming together, and you’ve got to know when to cut your losses. And we did. But… (
lowering his voice) …you could kind of blame it on the writer’s strike, which is what we did!
BE: (Laughs) Which is actually what I figured you’d do!
MV: No, no. Listen, we’re in…this business is crazy. It’s such a weird business. We’re not curing cancer, we’re not feeding kids, and everyone takes it so seriously. I think sometimes the truth needs to be told. It’s what it is. It just wasn’t a good show, end of story. It’s no one’s fault, particularly. I think sometimes things just don’t come together, and you’ve got to move on. It’s not an accusation or a blame. It’s just the way it is. And I’m shocked at the amount of people who come up to me and say, “I loved the show!” And I say, “What were you smoking when you watched it?”
BE: (Laughs) Well, I liked the pilot, and I thought there was a lot of potential for chemistry there.
MV: There was a lot…a
lot…of potential, and we fought for it for a very, very long time, and then finally realized that it wasn’t going to happen, and we gave up. But one of the key things for me, for instance, is that…this is a show about four guys, and not once did we talk about sports. Not once. Guys talk about sports! Not once did we talk about other things… (
Sighs) Whatever. I’m not going to get into it. But you’re right, I think there was an opportunity there to have a lot of great chemistry, and for one reason or another, it just slipped through our fingers. And now I’m out of work. So isn’t
that great? (
Laughs)