Poisoned Femininity F/W 08.09

[kahlilg]

I agree with that ... but bringing a little masculinity into the mix isn't poison, is it?

well i think ruffian posted on page one could fall into the same category. however, i think you have a good point and please allow me to think about it for a while lol.

Out of curiosity, how do you guys feel that Margiela's and Pilati's experiments with the erasure of identity and - especially - femininity in form relate to this poisoned trend? I find it all so morbidly fascinating.

what do you mean? i was going to write a reply but first i want to make sure we are on the right page!

 

[Fontenrose]

Out of curiosity, how do you guys feel that Margiela's and Pilati's experiments with the erasure of identity and - especially - femininity in form relate to this poisoned trend? I find it all so morbidly fascinating.

I think the subject discussed in the Weight thread relates to the poisoned trend. Also many trends in the selection of the models, young, white, plain, disposable...

I agree with that ... but bringing a little masculinity into the mix isn't poison, is it?

with all the models chosen so as to diminish all the attributes of the feminine body, I think it is.

 

[Fontenrose]

yahoo news

Pilati's YSL Attack of the Clones: poisoned fem or showmanship?

yahoo news

Maison Martin Margiela HC S/S 08 Paris

Margiela = no femininity, barely even clothes, more sculpture
YSL = very distracting for the clothes, 20% poisoned

 

[shirleebee]

And now this!
http://www.thefashionspot.com/finishing-touches/thierry-mugler-returns-to-couture-296

God, I really do feel this connects to the idea of a twisted, sick femininity, but it is also related the industrialist and sci-fi aesthetics we've seen pop up on the runways every so often. It's like Back to the Future. But it feels retro now, which makes it ironic.

Margiela's insistence of anonymity in his models and his recent clothing suggest the eating away of a distinct, gender-specifc identity. It's beyond androgyny, though. It's almost nonhuman (& Pilati and Ghesquiere are well on their way into this direction, as well). It's more conceptual than visually glamourous in any regard.

But until I figure out a new way to categorize all this cyborg chic into a coherent topic of its own (and I do feel it warrants one), I'll go back to poisoned feminity:

Boudicca COUTURE SPRING 2008:
http://www.elle.com/collections/12708/boudicca-fashion-show-spring-2008-haute-couture.html

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http://www.***************/image/2008/W4/012220081956277476.jpghttp://www.***************/image/2008/W4/012220081956277875.jpg

elle.com

^An almost Victorian, Edward Gorey like take on Rodarte's pal

 

[Fontenrose]

cyberpunk! or an offshoot?

from wikipedia:

As a wider variety of writers began to work with cyberpunk concepts, new subgenres of science fiction emerged, playing off the cyberpunk label and focusing on technology and its social effects in different ways. Examples include steampunk (cyberpunk themes in the early industrial age), pioneered by Tim Powers, K. W. Jeter, and James Blaylock, and biopunk (cyberpunk themes dominated by biotechnology, including Paul Di Filippo’s half-serious ribofunk). In addition, some people consider works such as Neal Stephenson’s The Diamond Age to be postcyberpunk.

 

[shirleebee]

Well, it surely made an impact on Fashion Rocks:

Hearts of Darkness"
Ph. Steven Klein
Fashion Editor: Edward Enninful


Coco Rocha
"Pretty in Punk"
Ph. Craig McDean
Fashion Editor: Tabitha Simmons


SCANS REPOSTED FROM FASHION ROCKS THREAD

 

[eternitygoddess]

poisoned feminity.

vow vow.

nice term. kudos for whoever spotted this. I'm intrigued.

 

[shirleebee]

thanks!

 

[shirleebee]

http://www.independent.co.uk/life-s...night-designers-go-back-to-gothic-890077.html

 

[SwanDiamondRose]

wow. well i have to say the Francesco Scognamiglio F/W 08.09 Milan images are pretty delicious.

 

[poptheglock]

http://nymag.com/fashion/fashionshows/2008/fall/main/newyork/womenrunway/philosophy/images/16.jpg LOVE IT!

 

[jennifer~]

Well, it surely made an impact on Fashion Rocks:

Hearts of Darkness"
Ph. Steven Klein
Fashion Editor: Edward Enninful

That article was kind of strange; the girls look more 'visual kei' than emo, and the text referenced a bunch of bands like The Smiths, The Cure, etc. which might have influenced emo, but that emo listeners today don't know or care much about. I mean, I really don't like emo, but I kind of enjoyed the article, so something was definitely wrong.

 

[shirleebee]

haha
They just conflated like three totally separate musical and style philosophies for the sake of their own convenience in that article.

 

[Crying Diamonds]

Giambattista Valli A/W 08-09


Inspiration being 'Little Red Riding Hood Ate The Wolf'. Poisoned Femininity much?

(www.vogue.co.uk)

 

[nicolas77]

i love cyber punk! ugh.. amazing. can we start a cyberpunk thread?

 

[educo]

The Gothic exhibition at the FIT museum has alot of these pieces on display.. It was jaw dropping. I'm going to see it again.

 

[ponytrot]

mm...that Giambattista collection how yummy!

 

[shirleebee]

Yes, the FIT exhibit is amazing. I, too, plan to visit it again.
If I am able to, I plan to photograph my favorite designers' contributions: Rick Owens, Rodarte, Undercover, Thierry Mugler, McQueen, and CDG all are prominently featured.

 

[Em<3Kimbadine]

I have to say those Giambattista items are scrumptious - plus the Gothic items featured.

Also this name reallllyyyyy speaks to me.

 

[educo]

Yes, the FIT exhibit is amazing. I, too, plan to visit it again.
If I am able to, I plan to photograph my favorite designers' contributions: Rick Owens, Rodarte, Undercover, Thierry Mugler, McQueen, and CDG all are prominently featured.

Be sure to do it on the DL because it is forbidden!! I'm going to try to sneak in pics myself because the exhibition was truly breathtaking.