Princess Mary of Denmark

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^of course she did! losing weight does not change your nose!!!

Not that sure...

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I find the way the media portrays her in Denmark - and partly Australia too - very, very annoying. If you've followed her from the beginning it's so obvious that she's gone through a huge transformation to become "the perfect princess" and to me it seems like it's been mostly about the superficial for her. She seems to have put most of her effort into looking that part and I find that sily and very shortsighted. She may have a lovely wardrobe and look the part to some - maybe even many - but to me she looks like a silly girl playing princess. There's not very much substance but plenty of facade :blink:
 
I find the way the media portrays her in Denmark - and partly Australia too - very, very annoying. If you've followed her from the beginning it's so obvious that she's gone through a huge transformation to become "the perfect princess" and to me it seems like it's been mostly about the superficial for her. She seems to have put most of her effort into looking that part and I find that sily and very shortsighted. She may have a lovely wardrobe and look the part to some - maybe even many - but to me she looks like a silly girl playing princess. There's not very much substance but plenty of facade :blink:

As a longtime royal watcher, I have followed Mary from the beginning. I find her physical transformation to be amazing and inspiring. You are judging her from the external appearance when it's clear that Mary also works hard at her job: the foundation, her patronages, etc. There's no facade. The physical part is just a reflection of her determination to succeed. She's obviously perfectionist! I dare anyone here with unlimited resources to not take advantage of them and look and feel their best.
 
I'm a longtime royal watcher too and I've been nothing but impressed with Mary since the day she married Frederick. She comes across to me as a very genuine person. I'm sure she has royal minders to make sure she acts and looks a certain way but thats only because the public and media can be so harsh if you make one little mistake.
 
I thought she did a great job with her foundations too. In the beginning she was criticized by the press for the fashion shows/fairs she would go to but now they're praising her for bringing it to the forefront since Danish fashion business is doing so well now internationally. I doubt it would have been bringing so much exposure to Denmark if she did not back it. I think she genuinely wants to do good for Denmark. I like her a lot.
 
She may have a lovely wardrobe and look the part to some - maybe even many - but to me she looks like a silly girl playing princess. There's not very much substance but plenty of facade
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well she does have to play the part. She can go around dressing in jeans and stuff.
 
I'm a longtime royal watcher too and I've been nothing but impressed with Mary since the day she married Frederick. She comes across to me as a very genuine person. I'm sure she has royal minders to make sure she acts and looks a certain way but thats only because the public and media can be so harsh if you make one little mistake.

The Danish press isn't hard to her at all. She can do nothing wrong and mostly gets praise from the collective press.
 
That language thing is an artificially created controversy. Having lived for a year in Denmark and repeatedly asked my Danish friends about it, her Danish is perfectly understandable. She has a foreign accent, which is normal since she has learnt the language (one of the most difficult in the world for non-Scandinavian people) late in adulthood. You cannot compare her to Prince Henrick, for example, who still can't speak a word of Danish after a lifetime in the country. She is doing speeches with ease and I only ever heard criticism of her Danish in Internet forums.

Eh.. I didn't say that her Danish isn't understandable - it is. Her accent however is horrible IMO and it seems that when she doesn't speak from a script that she's not comfortable with the language. Even when she speaks from a script she often sounds very odd with some of the words. She's not getting better either. It's been reported that she and Frederik speak English among themselves and I think that's the cause. Not everyone has a talent for languages so it's fair enough that she keep having an accent but to me it seems she just can't be bothered. You mention Henrik - he does indeed have a thick French accent but his knowlegde of the language is huge so in fact his Danish is better than Marys.

I don't know what you are referring to. Also the whole of the DRF has very a light workload. Queen Margarethe doesn't do much either, especially compared to Queen Sofia or Queen Elisabeth. Why single out Mary?

I'm talking about the bullying project, another project about sunprotection, a project about collaboration with the Australian lifeguards, scholarships given within an Australian context, the 1½ official trip downunder.. it seems the concept will go on and on and it's quite tirering IMO. It's quite fair that she goes there for private holidays ect but to keep making it more of less officiel is odd IMO. She's the Crown Princess of Denmark, not Australia. And yes - none of the Danish royals work very much. Frederik is downright lazy IMO - but he and Mary are the future king and queen of Denmark - they should up their efforts not down them like they've apparently down if the latest figures are right.

The Vogue cover had been fully approved by the palace, as well as any of the fashion covers she has done. Mary has put the Danish royal family on the international map and they have been exploiting this for their own PR purposes and to benefit Danish trade (with greatresults).She wears a lot of Danish fashion and mix it with foreign brands such as Prada. I doubt the Danish fashion industry, which has seen their sale number shoot to the roof since she is on the scene, has any complain about her style. No it's not as far as the media is concerned. When Mary patronise important events such as a rare diseases conference, people babble on about what she is wearing. It is the media and the public who are shallow, not Mary, who is doing what is expected of her, which is mostly looking and behaving the part. And judging by the huge popularity she is enjoying among Danish people, she must be doing something right.

It's my impression that she hasn't in any particular way brought any press attention to Denmark unless you count Australia. She and Fred were in New York for the second time last year and there was virtually no interest from the American press - but you are right - the Danish and the Australian press does love her and report on her. I'm sure though that they would still do that if she wasn't so stylish - so I'm questioning if there really is an effect of her stylish wardrobe at all. It's been written - in a book supported by the palace - that it was a conscious decision to promote her as a "fashion icon". I fail to see the rationale behind that as I really, really think the DRF has been a lot more about substance than the superficial - but I guess it somehow goes hand in hand with Margrethe's love of theatrical self representation. I don't like it. As you say the result is a focus on what Mary wears whenever she is out somewhere and not on what she's there to support.

To conclude, I am very surprised to hear Mary constantly criticised for her heavy involvement with the fashion industry. I know the general public think that to be interested in fashion you have to be shallow and stupid but this is a fashion forum.
I would have imagined that people here would be aware of how much money, jobs and hard work is involved and would just consider it a worthy thing to promote.
Go figure.

I'm quite aware of how much money is costs dressing Mary up as I'm one of those who pays her bills! To me royalty means a lot more than just the promotion on the individual royal and that's probably why I'm so annoyed with Mary. It seems to be mostly about her and her "fairytale life" - not so much about her being the Crown princess of Denmark. The latter is a person in a historical context and shouldn't be a person who was striving to be a celebrity. Like I wrote before - if I felt that she cared as much about substance as she does about the superficial, I'd probably respect her more. All I see is a very common woman who revels in playing princess with the wardrobe, jewelry and attention. Not very admirable IMO.
 
People will constantly not like Mary because she's living the dream so to speak. She'll never be good enough for those who wish they were the lucky one to catch Fred's eye in a bar during the Olympics.

And the comment about Mary not supporting Dane designers is outlandish. I wouldn't even know about Malene Birger if. Mary is helping to put Danish fashion on the map with her support of Danish fashion.
 
People will constantly not like Mary because she's living the dream so to speak. She'll never be good enough for those who wish they were the lucky one to catch Fred's eye in a bar during the Olympics.

And the comment about Mary not supporting Dane designers is outlandish. I wouldn't even know about Malene Birger if. Mary is helping to put Danish fashion on the map with her support of Danish fashion.

It's certainly an easy way to deflect the criticism - to say that people are just jealous ;) I know, I'm not, believe it or not.
 
please try to stay on the topic of fashion/style in here...

also, please remember that weight talk and political discussion are not allowed
 
It's my impression that she hasn't in any particular way brought any press attention to Denmark unless you count Australia. She and Fred were in New York for the second time last year and there was virtually no interest from the American press - but you are right - the Danish and the Australian press does love her and report on her.
I believe you are quite mistaken. Mary and Frederick are fixtures in the French glossy press (Point de Vue, Gala) and frequently featured in Hello (2 million readers each week). That's for the British and French press. This kind of exposure is due to Mary and her fashion and style. They were hardly any mention of anything Danish in these publications before the wedding. Frederick spent a year living in France years before his marriage, nobody cared in the French press.
I'm quite aware of how much money is costs dressing Mary up as I'm one of those who pays her bills!
You totally missed my point. I wasn't referring to the value of Mary's wardrobe. Please do read my post again.

I won't address your other points because I will get my hand slapped by ChrissyM (:p)as it is OT, but I can't help to say that your statement about Henrick Danish stuns me. I have seen footage of him attempting to speak Danish and it was pitiful. It's widely acknowledged that he can't speak the language.
 
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Harumi, Henrik's accent is horrible but his vocabulary is quite large. It's obvious that he knows Danish even if he still sounds extremely French. His style (to stay a bit on topic :innocent:) is also still quite French. Mary vocabulary seems rather limited.

Yes, I know about Point de Vue, Gala and Hello. They would have written about anyone who married Frederik - that's the stuff they write about. Frederik's uncle is a reporter for Point de Vue, I think and they also write about former Princess Alexandra and future Princess Marie. I'll give you that Mary gets lots and lots of press in Australia - the Vogue cover stand out of course - I have not seen Mary appear significantly in the media any other places.

Anyway - Mary has a large, lovely wardrobe and a small army of assistents that makes her look very much like a princess. Good for her :flower:
 
I believe you are quite mistaken. Mary and Frederick are fixtures in the French glossy press (Point de Vue, Gala) and frequently featured in Hello (2 million readers each week). That's for the British and French press. This kind of exposure is due to Mary and her fashion and style. They were hardly any mention of anything Danish in these publications before the wedding. Frederick spent a year living in France years before his marriage, nobody cared in the French press. You totally missed my point. I wasn't referring to the value of Mary's wardrobe. Please do read my post again.

I won't address your other points because I will get my hand slapped by ChrissyM (:p)as it is OT, but I can't help to say that your statement about Henrick Danish stuns me. I have seen footage of him attempting to speak Danish and it was pitiful. It's widely acknowledged that he can't speak the language.

I love her style and would daresay she's been an asset to the Danish Royal Family. :flower:
 
I find the way the media portrays her in Denmark - and partly Australia too - very, very annoying. If you've followed her from the beginning it's so obvious that she's gone through a huge transformation to become "the perfect princess" and to me it seems like it's been mostly about the superficial for her. She seems to have put most of her effort into looking that part and I find that sily and very shortsighted. She may have a lovely wardrobe and look the part to some - maybe even many - but to me she looks like a silly girl playing princess. There's not very much substance but plenty of facade :blink:

Another longtime royal watcher checking in. The one thing Mary has done is to (slightly) help bring Danish fashion onto the map. I vaguely remember hearing about Malene Birger and Hearmade prior to Mary, but thanks to her CIFF patronage it seems Danish designers are being recognized by those outside of Denmark. I am not saying that she is solely responsible, but one cannot deny that her presence has helped a bit.

Mary's clothing is either hit or miss. Sometimes her choices are spot on. Other times she looks like a disaster which seems to please the anti-Mary royal watchers who are simply an insecure, negative, and insignificant group of bored women who devour bon-bons and troll royal message boards. Sadly, they believe they are being funny, but unfortunately for them, and to the amusement of many others, they come off looking like complete fools with their lies and negative comments.

Back to Mary's style. The Crown Princess' overall look keeps changing, but I would like to see her find her own niche instead of following the latest trends. Mary needs to fire her stylist, Anja, in order for her to change for the better.
 
Another longtime royal watcher checking in. The one thing Mary has done is to (slightly) help bring Danish fashion onto the map. I vaguely remember hearing about Malene Birger and Hearmade prior to Mary, but thanks to her CIFF patronage it seems Danish designers are being recognized by those outside of Denmark. I am not saying that she is solely responsible, but one cannot deny that her presence has helped a bit.

Mary's clothing is either hit or miss. Sometimes her choices are spot on. Other times she looks like a disaster which seems to please the anti-Mary royal watchers who are simply an insecure, negative, and insignificant group of bored women who devour bon-bons and troll royal message boards. Sadly, they believe they are being funny, but unfortunately for them, and to the amusement of many others, they come off looking like complete fools with their lies and negative comments.

Back to Mary's style. The Crown Princess' overall look keeps changing, but I would like to see her find her own niche instead of following the latest trends. Mary needs to fire her stylist, Anja, in order for her to change for the better.

I agree with the bolded. I do think Mary is probably the best dressed Crown Princess because she's a little more bold than conservative. For the most part, I like her looks. Usually when something is wrong, there's a piece that doesn't belong. She has excellent taste in hats and coats and when she wears these, she really looks princess-like. :flower:
 

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