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[Scott]

Frankly,Mike anybody-male or female-like that is a complete twit to me. Its not that its a double standard on our part....its the double standard of the media who aren't projecting those images to people by putting these foolish people side by side as equal morons. Nobody says anything because they're never being written about!!

 

[Spike413]

Originally posted by mikeijames@Jun 17th, 2004 - 7:48 pm
i would love to know where all you people live...the bitchiness exhibited by kimora lee simmons is very commonplace in new york among both the rich and the poor.

i really think there is a strong public backlash against a lot of female celebs that are strong minded and hard-to-please...i've never heard about people like harvey weinstein or any other mogul getting written up for their bad behavior...it's a double standard. a man does it, he's being a take-no-excuses hardball player, a woman does it, and she's a b*tch.

I can see where you're coming from, but for me anyway, I can't stand people who flaunt their wealth and are "diva-like" regardless of sex. For instance, P. Diddy could be considered a sort of male version of KLS. He assumes that because he has loads of money, he can do anything he wants, even if he doesn't know what he's doing. I mean, I was in the theatre district in Manhattan recently and I saw the theatre where 'A Rasin in the Sun' was playing, and outside was a giant poster of P. Diddy. I can't stand the fact that due simply to financial means and connections, he's on Broadway........Same with Kimora, she has a fashion show every season, and why? Cause she has a husband with money and connections, and used to be Karl's "muse". I'm sorry though, that quote about her laughing because her bag was Prada and someone's was Wal-Mart is just disgusting. I have absolutely no tolerence for people who look down on those with less money. It pisses me off, and Kimora's behavior and descisions are very blatent, I mean, is she really so stupid to believe that an ad campaign portraying her rediculously wealthy lifestyle is going to get a good response from people? Or is it a calculated move that's just a person with money thinking that they're above people......

Just realized, this may sound like I'm targeting the "rap"world, I'm not. It's just that unfortunately that's where it's most prominent, at least in popular culture. But what I say here applies to anyone who is classless enough to openly flaunt their wealth in this sort of way is pathetic. If you're rich, have multiple houses, wear expensive clothes, drive fancy cars and wear as much bling-bling as you want, but don't for one minute think that it makes you better then anybody, EVER! (I was on a role, forgive the tone )

 

[mikeijames]

yes, there are those who struggle for their place in the world...but it's not like kimora lee simmons or p. diddy were born with a silver spoon in their mouth. i think the behavior you detest is that of the noveau riche...and in cities like new york they're all around. i know it's a media thing because it makes good copy but the media has a role in shaping the opinions of those outside.

i mean gwyneth paltrow didn't exactly work as a waitress until she got her big break and i can guarantee you she's not as decent as the media makes her seem...she's human just like everyone else...there's just an obvious skewing of reporting around people.

and i personally think that many times it is against powerful women and minorites...

 

[smashinfashion]

ugh she is such a braggart and showoff. totally disgusting. i cant find one redeeming quality about her.

 

[pointup]

Originally posted by mikeijames@Jun 17th, 2004 - 8:26 pm
yes, there are those who struggle for their place in the world...but it's not like kimora lee simmons or p. diddy were born with a silver spoon in their mouth. i think the behavior you detest is that of the noveau riche...and in cities like new york they're all around. i know it's a media thing because it makes good copy but the media has a role in shaping the opinions of those outside.

i mean gwyneth paltrow didn't exactly work as a waitress until she got her big break and i can guarantee you she's not as decent as the media makes her seem...she's human just like everyone else...there's just an obvious skewing of reporting around people.

and i personally think that many times it is against powerful women and minorites...

I definately disagree that this is a racial issue at all.

We are talking about Kimora Lee Simmons here, not anyone else. This is a thread about her character.. Of course, reports of the media are always skewed no matter if it's about Gywenyth Paltrow or politics, there's always a slant. I don't see how this apparently greedy, pretentious, self-indulgent woman is made any less so by accused sociocultural issues.

Coming from hard beginnings is hardly an excuse to flaunt your new found riches.

 

[softgrey]

the fact that she doesn't know how to behave around press shows her stupidity...and insecurity...like she's trying to prove something...someone like gwyneth or julia roberts are press darlings because they are DARLINGS to the press!!!...basic common sense...you don't bite the hand that feeds...and that includes the buying public...

she is a bad business woman...she was an average model...and she isn't really a designer...so...basically...she's just married to a rich guy...

the fact that she puts down puffy for wanting to emulate russell and says everything he does is in the shadow of my husband...well...so what...everyone needs role models...and russell is GREAT...maybe she needs to be more like him herself...

 

[ultramarine]

Originally posted by mikeijames@Jun 17th, 2004 - 7:48 pm
i would love to know where all you people live...the bitchiness exhibited by kimora lee simmons is very commonplace in new york among both the rich and the poor.

i really think there is a strong public backlash against a lot of female celebs that are strong minded and hard-to-please...i've never heard about people like harvey weinstein or any other mogul getting written up for their bad behavior...it's a double standard. a man does it, he's being a take-no-excuses hardball player, a woman does it, and she's a b*tch.

There's a precedent for the attitude of some tFS members towards KLS ... I'm feeling lazy, but searching "Kimora" on tFS database would explain A LOT ...
Oh! And I do NOT like nouveau riche, but I think I can personally take labels aside (as well as some people in here) and truly not like/approve of someone's behaviour.

 

[As You Like It]

Originally posted by MissPurple@Jun 16th, 2004 - 7:27 pm
however, I also get by some comments from Karl

I agree. Frankly, I think Karl Lagerfeldt is a raging jerk and I am hotly waiting the day that somebody goes upside his head with a $5000 handbag.

 

[softgrey]

Originally posted by As You Like It+Jun 17th, 2004 - 10:36 pm--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (As You Like It @ Jun 17th, 2004 - 10:36 pm)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-MissPurple@Jun 16th, 2004 - 7:27 pm
however, I also get by some comments from Karl

I agree. Frankly, I think Karl Lagerfeldt is a raging jerk and I am hotly waiting the day that somebody goes upside his head with a $5000 handbag. [/b][/quote]
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[Scott]

true...true...

I wish somebody would do that to Jeremy Scott too...but that's pushing off-topic,I think

Mike,I just realized I misread what you posted...sorry

 

[As You Like It]

I just don't get why Karl Lagerfeldt is reckoned so witty. He's a mean ol' fart and he's always been rather vicious. Bitchy is funny in small doses, but when you are always crabby and vinegary and picking on people, it is just pathetic and ugly.

 

[Plumour]

Originally posted by As You Like It@Jun 17th, 2004 - 11:28 pm
I just don't get why Karl Lagerfeldt is reckoned so witty. He's a mean ol' fart and he's always been rather vicious. Bitchy is funny in small doses, but when you are always crabby and vinegary and picking on people, it is just pathetic and ugly.

 

[Nader]

I don't like her or her stupid baby phat line.

 

[wantmonster]

i agree with everything mikeijames said; not because i am a fan of the obnoxious kimora, but because of the circumstances from which she rose to stardom... it's all cause and effect.

 

[wantmonster]

and YES, i did read the entire article. it's quite entertaining.

 

[ahhGucci]

See no bs, hear no bs...

 

[carola]

Kimora SUCKS. She is not talented, she is not pretty, she is a big nothing. The only good thing about her is the Baby Phat shows, and I'm talking about the models and makeup and hair, NOT the clothes. I hate pretentious people, poor rich male female black white, it doesn't matter which, nobody is below or above anyone.

There should be a book on Karl's quotes, he's hilarious.

 

[pinkcouture]

Originally posted by carola@Jun 20th, 2004 - 3:12 am
There should be a book on Karl's quotes, he's hilarious.

I agree! That definetly sounds like a good summer read..B) I can't stand Baby Phat..tres horrible..make it stop! Kimora needs to get a grip on reality..

 

[Deleted member 1957]

Originally posted by mikeijames@Jun 17th, 2004 - 7:48 pm
i would love to know where all you people live...the bitchiness exhibited by kimora lee simmons is very commonplace in new york among both the rich and the poor.

i really think there is a strong public backlash against a lot of female celebs that are strong minded and hard-to-please...i've never heard about people like harvey weinstein or any other mogul getting written up for their bad behavior...it's a double standard. a man does it, he's being a take-no-excuses hardball player, a woman does it, and she's a b*tch.

100% true

I dont really mind Kimora. She does clothes that have a steady mkt i mean whats wrong with someone wearing what they want? I actually like some of her stuff!
but on the other hand i believe Mr. Lagerfield represents the 'monsters' in the fashion industry.
He had to swallow his words a while back when he said that Claudia SCHIFFER'S look was past its date!

 

[Love4Armani]

I don't care how she acts, because i don't need her at all, you know. but the fact that she puts her label baby phat all over every single item she sells...its pretty bad and i avoid her clothing because of that. im not going to advertise like that.