The Celeb Fashion Era...

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excerpt from wwd..

“Fashion is polarizing into the people who really are trying to keep the sense of the craft alive in its 20th-century sense, and the 21st-century version of fashion, which is inextricably linked to hype and celebrity,” said Simon Doonan, creative director at Barneys New York. “It’s confusing to people what fashion is anymore.”
If Lopez, Knowles, Sean John and Baby Phat manage to ignite the fashion crowd, they could potentially alter the landscape of fashion weeks to come by encouraging other fledgling celebrity designers such as Jessica Simpson, Nicky Hilton, Gwen Stefani, Eve and Macy Gray to follow their examples. As Nicky Hilton said at the Luca Luca show on Sunday, “Hopefully, in some way, [we impact fashion]. I am a designer.”
“New York fashion has now become the epicenter of the fashion-plus-hype movement,” Doonan said. “Europe is still relatively tranquil. People still consider it a very chic trade show. Here it’s become this explosive, deranged, hype-driven dolce vita, which can be amusing and brings a lot of energy to fashion in New York.”
But with the energy also comes new challenges for designers, particularly young emerging talents who have little or no advertising budgets. To them, a runway show is the most effective tool to reach editors, buyers and thereby consumers most effectively, but with Lopez and her ilk on the official calendar, they naturally will be hard-pressed to get a slice of the attention.
 
thanks for posting softie :flower: i was just reading this article online...

some very interesting points were brought up...that celebrities gleam ideas from the designers who dress them and put them in the front row of their shows, but then designers get the added exposure because a certain celeb was connected to them (ie, zac posen). another key point was a designer's ability to market themselves (ie, tom ford & karl lagerfeld), that most celebrities have mastered because they've been in the public eye.

in the end, i think (well, i hope) that creativity, quality and talent will win out...on the higher-end celebrity fashion level, there's only a few that have worked out. gwen stefani is very involved with l.a.m.b., and p. diddy has had success with sean john. i've seen the j.lo stuff that's in the stores now, and it's crap. if she's going to be successful, she's going to have to step it up A LOT.
 
kimair said:
in the end, i think (well, i hope) that creativity, quality and talent will win out...

As sad as it may be, I don't think that will ever happen.

The reasons mentionned in the article are very true, that's why I don't like in general the New York fashion week. Hype aside and all JLo, Zac Posen, Baby Phat, Tommy Hilfiger, Lamb would be NOTHING. I mean seriously, there is simply no substance to the designs. But what also needs to be pointed out is that a celebrity isn't necessarily bad at designing clothes, though it is generally true because it is not his/her field of work. It's sad though that they get more recognition that a designer who's creative but doesn't have the budget to expand and to be known for his work. I mean JLo designer!? :rolleyes: I remember reading somewhere that people are anxiously waiting for JLo's much talked about show. It's like, oh dear, first of all her style is pretty disgusting, imagine translating that on the catwalk. It's such a sad thing that fashion has become a phenomen excluding fashion itself. :(
 
very intersting post. it truly speaks to what's happening in fashion right now. you ask any young person, they have no idea who yves saint laurent is: they know nike, they know puma, they know 7 for all mankind, they know gucci, they know prada. i think that over time we'll see a lot of brands become legitimate because they have survived but there will be many who we'll look back on and shake our heads. brands that make a lot of money and build a strong business will last.
 
mikeijames said:
brands that make a lot of money and build a strong business will last.

That's very sad but very true.
 
Celebrity driven clothing lines....Baby Phat...Sean John...Rocawear....Beyonce (don't know the name of her emerging clothing line she is putting out with her mother)...JLo...and they others are mostly Fan Wear to me. Some of these kids and those that don't know any better will simply purchase clothing because a celebrity is attached to it...not for the love of fashion. It's so sad....
 
very keen insight on behalf of mr.doonan. I think it's hard to say right now how long this will last. Because we are in the moment right now it seems like it will go on forever but who knows, this might pass in a couple years time. Regardless, I don't think you can include tommy hilfiger in that list Kimkhuu. No, I don't like his designs, but he's been around for around 20 years now and originally came out in the 80's as an alternative to Ralph Lauren. He's not some celebrity who started a line. Secondly markets change. There are good designers from the 60's who aren't around now because a good business changes with the market and the economy and this is part of that change. The stronger businesses and the ones who know how to be flexible with that change are the ones who survive, thats the way it was and thats the way it will always be.
 
Meg said:
Because we are in the moment right now it seems like it will go on forever but who knows, this might pass in a couple years time.

Hopefully when the celebrity fame and popularity dwindles so will the need for their line....and hopefully people will really see that the clothing line wasn't even worth it....an example...I don't know if anyone remembers but the female rapper Eve...she came out with a clothing line a few years ago (maybe less time than that) called Fetish..the clothes and accessories were garbage in my opinion. I remember there was a huge billboard on La Cienega and 3rd near the Beverly Center here in Los Angeles. Macy's sold her stuff...I think Bloomies did to.. but the pieces were garbage (oh did I already say that? :innocent: ) and the prices were ridiculously for the garbage (dang, I said it again) that they produced. Poor craftmanship. I remember I was with my mother in Macy's and she was buying pantyhose and I went over to look at purses and I saw a big sale bin with stuff in (I always try to look for hidden treasures) and I saw a Fetish bag...ugly as the sky is blue. The purse was originally $139.00 but was being sold for $39.00. The purse was so ugly that I wouldn't have paid $9.00 for it. Yes, I was that ugly (dang, there I go repeating myself again....:lol: )...So hopefully JLo. and the other lines will do the same thing and in a few years we will look back and say..."jennifer who's clothing line???"
 
fyi...eve is re-launching fetish...she had problems with the last group she was working with...she's gonna give it another go though...

and beyonce's line is called 'house of dereon'...i guess that's her mom's name?...
there's an accent in there somewhere...
 
yes Fetish was/is awful and I can't even believe that Eve compares it to LAMB in 'Rich Girls' if I were Gwen, I'd be offended :lol: We'll see how this relaunch goes
 
It scares me to think the celeb fashion invasion is on the increase but still I believe fashionistas get a buzz from the ideas of designers rather than celebrities trying to make more money by producing some meaningless crap
 
softgrey said:
fyi...eve is re-launching fetish...she had problems with the last group she was working with...she's gonna give it another go though...

and beyonce's line is called 'house of dereon'...i guess that's her mom's name?...
there's an accent in there somewhere...

yep, it's House of Deréon (her grandmother's maiden name)...and it said in the article she's planning to show at S/S06 fashion week in September...:innocent:

i saw the fetish stuff in macy's too, right next to j.lo, ecko red, etc...hopefully the new go-round will be better...eve has been dressing better, she has an interesting sense of style...
 
softgrey said:
fyi...eve is re-launching fetish...she had problems with the last group she was working with...she's gonna give it another go though...

and beyonce's line is called 'house of dereon'...i guess that's her mom's name?...
there's an accent in there somewhere...

Why is Eve re-lauching. I heard that the son of the owner of American Eagle Outfitters was the force (money, I guess) behind Fetish.....

Yeah, you're right...House of Dereon is the name (I think the name Dereon is Beyonce's grandmothers name or maiden last name, something like that.)
 
It's almost a punch in the face to students and people devoting years of their life to pursuing fashion, and all a celebrity does is wake up one morning and decide to start one and, there in. I have friends studying fashion design, and its going to be hard for them to be successful with celebrities filling the spots. Money is the root this problem, students on a budget, celebs worth millions.
 
omg kit...i only got a few lines in...but i had to stop becuase i was having a hard time controlling the nausea... :sick: :yuk:

SWEETFACE!!!!????....j.lo's new line is called sweetface???...
oh!!.... barf-ola...!!! :yuk:
what is that???...marc anthony's little pet name for her???....
i think i'm going to be sick!!!...

i don't know if i can stomach the rest of that tripe!!! :ninja: :doh:


EEK!!!... :shock:
 
i thought sweetface was the company that makes j.lo, i guess her licensing company (?)..but then i read this piece from today's nytimes...clearly she's not trying to call herself a "designer," i think she's being very realistic about what she's doing...

In the three years that retailers have carried an ever-growing array of clothing and fragrances bearing the name JLo by Jennifer Lopez, totaling $325 million in 2004 sales according to her company, there has never been much question about Ms. Lopez's role in the look of the corduroy jackets trimmed in fake fur and low-slung sweatpants. Most people assumed she just cashed the royalty checks. That changed last fall, however, when Ms. Lopez told her staff at Sweetface, the company that makes JLo, that she would get more hands-on. Sweetface had just lost its creative director, Heather Thomson, who left to work on a rival collection by Beyoncé Knowles.

Tonight the results of Ms. Lopez's new commitment will be on display at her first runway show during New York Fashion Week, including pieces she said she helped design. "Now we get to show the world what I was intending to do from the beginning," Ms. Lopez said in an interview at the company's Sixth Avenue design studio, overlooking the Fashion Week tents in Bryant Park...


"The fashion shows that are most impressive to me are Dior and Alexander McQueen," she said, referring to two of the most reliably theatrical productions of the Paris season. "The question for me was how do I do that? I'm trying to create a sense of fantasy, to mix a street element with a luxury element, so jeans with a big fat diamond was the perfect combination..."


She does not pretend to be in the same league as the couturiers who design the outfits she wears on the red carpet. "I don't liken myself to a designer like Gianni Versace or Dolce & Gabbana or John Galliano," she said. "I am more of a style person, and that's why I started my line, not because I thought of myself as some great inventive designer prodigy."

Ms. Lopez described her role this way: She met with Sophie Na, her head designer, and Gina Rizzo, her fashion director, to discuss the mood she wanted to convey for the fall season, which she described as "a soulful vibe with a sexy street glamour at the same time." It is no coincidence that her new album, "Rebirth," to be released March 1, has also been described as soulful. "It all comes from me," Ms. Lopez said. "I can't be one thing in fashion and another in music."

She said she helped pick fabrics, tweaked the design of the shoes and approved some 50 looks for the runway show. It will include pieces from her JLo line as well as a second, more expensive collection called Sweetface, which will be in stores late this year. Its ambition is to reach a slightly older customer than the teenagers who know her brand, said Andy Hilfiger, a director of Sweetface (and a brother of the designer Tommy Hilfiger).

The Sweetface label will include $400 cashmere sweaters, $150 jeans and $600 coats, and mink and fox fur coats, made for Sweetface by Saga Furs. They are destined for the fur departments of retailers like Saks Fifth Avenue, Neiman Marcus and Bloomingdale's...


Bloomingdale's turned down the JLo line in 2001, saying it was too narrowly aimed at teenagers. But Kal Ruttenstein, the store's fashion director, said he was eager to see Ms. Lopez's new merchandise. "She's grown up a lot," he said.

"She has a lot of style," he continued, "but we also have to leave room for Beyoncé and for Puffy's new women's collection. I don't want to start carrying Paris Hilton and Eve, too. We don't have a celebrity department and I don't think we're going to, but if the merchandise merits it, we certainly will consider it."
 
omg...imagine...a whole celeb dept...?!?!...LOL...
that would actually make the most sense...


keep the celebs away from the real designers...!!!! :angry:
 
we've certainly reached a saturation point.

i am sick of it.
 
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