Discussion: Who Should Be The Creative Director of Chanel?

If they appoint Hedi as Chanel's CD and if there is Chanel Homme (two conditions), I am sure it would be a success.

Beyond the Hedi fanboys (if they cannot buy the 8k leather jacket, they will buy the leather baseball cap), I've seen men with small feet wearing Chanel sneakers... There is a market there.
Imagine how Les Exclusifs could be expanded (right now only Sycomore and maybe Le Lion are "masculine").
There are men hungry for Chanel.

Of course the main inspiration for this new universe would be Karl, his own wardrobe and style ☺️

I would do it without hesitation.

One thing is clear: for Chanel Homme, it's now or never.
If they do it, it is going to be a project of the new CD; otherwise we can forget about it for the next 30 years.
 
If they appoint Hedi as Chanel's CD and if there is Chanel Homme (two conditions), I am sure it would be a success.

Beyond the Hedi fanboys (if they cannot buy the 8k leather jacket, they will buy the leather baseball cap), I've seen men with small feet wearing Chanel sneakers... There is a market there.
Imagine how Les Exclusifs could be expanded (right now only Sycomore and maybe Le Lion are "masculine").
There are men hungry for Chanel.

Of course the main inspiration for this new universe would be Karl, his own wardrobe and style ☺️

I would do it without hesitation.

One thing is clear: for Chanel Homme, it's now or never.
If they do it, it is going to be a project of the new CD; otherwise we can forget about it for the next 30 years.
Chanel’s departments are all separated.
If ever Hedi take over, his scope will be limited to fashion. I doubt that the Weirthemers would fire everybody for him to take over the whole house…
 
But that has been the foundation of Chanel for the past 40 years now.
Virginie Mouzat had that amazing quote about Chanel: « Du tres accessible très cher ».
It’s a language and an aesthetic people understand so it’s accessible. But the price point and the quality (for the most part)is exclusive.

In essence, Chanel is practical. So the way to have people go to the stores to buy fashion is to have a strong fashion proposition. I have many Chanel jackets and dresses. At the end, it’s a Chanel tweed jacket/dress but sometimes, the tiny detail somehow makes the difference. The same for blouses. When Karl did prints, I generally bought a printed blouse.

But then, again it’s only my POV. I strongly believe in seasonal stuff. Basics bores me. I can go to COS, Joseph for a basic. I go for the statement of the season. I may wear it this season and next year. I still wear my blouse from ss2008.

And the beauty about a brand like Chanel is that customers wants that. The problem of a brand like Chanel is that it’s more about brand loyalty than real style. But it’s an unfair advantage that they have to exploit. People have internalized that Chanel is timeless.


That’s really what makes the idea of someone like Slimane not interesting for me. It’s perfect on paper but in reality, he will not challenge the Chanel aesthetic (Karl did the rock skinny girls in monochrome) and he will not challenge himself. But then again, I don’t want to sound as redundant as his fans championing his takeover.

I think coming from the perspective of menswear design and from a masculine gaze, I am more accustomed to look at fashion from changes in smaller parameters, slower-paced fundamental changes and even from the crafts perspective, the idea that fabrics are woven and garments constructed with the intent to have a longer cycle of usage than the majority of their female counterparts.

It is because of that specific view that I look at contemporary womenswear design and it’s current protagonists with the suspicion that design is merely an exercise in creativity, rather than a marriage of utility and aesthetics, which is something that menswear tailoring and the vocabulary of work- and military garments taught me. You often mention about the fabulous silks in Armani’s repertoire and I could very well say that too about the particularities in the weave of Japanese wool gabardine used by Yohji Yamamoto in comparison to the inferior quality wools from Italy used by companies such as The Row.

I think with that in mind, it’s only normal that I feel a closer attachment to those designers who managed to create a body-of-work with a clear definition what it is and what it is not about and who created collections that seamlessly blend from one into the other - Jil Sander, Yohji Yamamoto, Alaia, Ann Demeulemeester - Despite the fact that certain decades were largely unfavorable to their point of view, I respect a lot that they stayed cohesive to their identity much in the way you can alsays recognize a Basquiat painting or music by bands such as The Cure or Depeche Mode for the identity they carved.

I understand that a lot of women and fashion followers in general are more in search of what’s new and differentiating one from the other season but that idea of starting from a blank slate every few months without it standing in context of what was created before, of creativity organically evolving from one to the next chapter, feels extremely alienating to me.

From that perspective I think that you observed well that the audience Hedi speaks to is not necessarily a follower of fashion but a singular idea of style he created, much in the way people bought Helmut Lang, Jil Sander or Martin Margiela.
 
Perhaps one thing to mention regarding the legacy of Gabrielle Chanel and most of her fellow mid-century contemporaries such as Balenciaga, Madame Grès, Alaia or Vionnet is that you can clearly look back on their body of work and find a very clear thread running through their work that is beyond just what the clothes looked like from the outside. That character is what gives a sense of timeless modernity to a pleated silk jersey Grès evening dress, a Fortuny Delphos or a Balenciaga cocoon jacket.

So when looking at those designers which I all look at with the highest admiration, I see a very precise handwriting in the cut and construction of a garment, specific silhouettes they favored and how that allowed a glimpse into the kind of feminity they designed their garments for.

Chanel has a beautiful and relevant point of view that feels timely where maybe a house like Schiaparelli was maybe more about a certain time and culture that existed in that time that feels like a costume travesty if transfered in our todays times.
 
Schiaparelli i feel is everywhere these last 3 /4 years or more maybe not so much her brand but the surreal ideas applied to product and communication its everywhere you go for me it became low hanging fruit , at Jaqemuse , Loewe , JW A , Prada etc its seems like surrealism is the easy way to be pop and have something strange but yet funny and understandable but still with pretence to be intellectual with out meaning.

even the cartier crash watch skyrocketed in price because of the illusion it's like a melting clock it became the himalayan birkin of cartier watches.
 

Puck - news​

A Cold Day in Chanel​

On the brink of restructuring, the House of Lagerfeld is homing in on a new creative director, too. Will the Wertheimers choose Hedi, make it work with Marc Jacobs, bet on golden boy Pieter Mulier, recruit the Olsens, or opt for the brand manager route? Alas, in the end, there’s only one Kaiser…

It’s restructuring season at Chanel, which is still defining its post-Lagerfeld vision some five years after the Kaiser’s passing. C.E.O. Leena Nair’s effort to impose a consistent strategy across the company’s three divisions—fashion, fragrance and beauty, and watches and fine jewelry—is likely to result in a significant upheaval that will see the old guard offboarded in favor of a new generation of leadership. Finding the right new people, though, is never easy. And while everyone in the industry is focused on whomever the mega-luxury house appoints to replace Virginie Viard as creative director, the people chosen for a number of other open roles will also be critical harbingers of Nair’s vision.

In New York, for instance, the company has been trying to recruit a new U.S. head of brand communications. Easy enough, right? What fashion-y comms person wouldn’t want to work at Chanel? The mandate from U.S. president Stephane Blanchard, who joined in 2023 after John Galantic took the opportunity to replace Diego Della Valle at Tod’s, was to find someone who could successfully manage across each of the three divisions, which always interacted, but didn’t always act in accordance with one another. This role would also be different from the one previously held by Rebekah McCabe, the well-liked Chanel executive who was promoted to U.S. general manager of the fashion division last year after Joyce Green headed to Paris. (McCabe’s current gig is ultra-focused on managing customers—the P.R. role, I’m told, will have a direct line to Blanchard. A rep for Chanel declined to comment.)

The job comes with a relatively generous salary ($425,000 to $600,000, according to a job listing) and should attract interest from pretty much every fashion P.R.-and-marketing person desperate to do something meaningful while also staying in the U.S. (the plum jobs are in Europe). But it also comes with quirks. Chanel is a private company, so executive bonus structures aren’t tied to a publicly traded stock price, as they are at LVMH. Also, I’m told that Blanchard is eager to avoid hiring a traditional fashion publicist, and has been discussing the position with executives in tech, C.P.G., startups, and beauty—far from the obvious choices, but an interesting window into how he and Nair view the company’s future. The internal, established teams—filled with company lifers that operate via the decidedly less strategic Bruno Pavlovsky school of communication—are not being considered. (Pavlovsky, Chanel’s president of fashion, whose relationship with Nair got off to a tense start, is expected to retire in the next two years.)

Of course, the company may be staggering the hire until the new creative director is appointed. Even if the role reports to Blanchard, most big-name designers want to bring in their own people, and their people will want to bring in their own people. Not every designer rolls as deep as, say, Hedi Slimane, who completely transformed Celine’s communications and design departments when he replaced Phoebe Philo in 2018. But much of that depends on how much latitude this designer is given—which will depend, in turn, on whether Chanel wants to bring in a Lagerfeld type, who will define the brand for a generation, or more of a Viard, who will merely try to manage the codes in their shadow. Or even go the route of the leather goods houses, which have hired divisional heads to oversee various departments and balkanize power.

After weeks of silence, I started hearing murmurs once again about the creative director candidates. A report in Glitz Paris suggests the company will announce the appointment in December, and if that’s the case, a decision has already been made. Given the messiness around Viard’s departure, it’s likely that much of the senior leadership doesn’t even know the details of Nair and the Wertheimers’ decision.
For now, then, everyone continues guessing. In London, insiders last week were harping on the idea that members of the Wertheimer family, the longtime proprietors of Chanel, had made a strategic investment in The Row to persuade the Olsens to come aboard. This, from my view, seems like utter bullsh*t. The Wertheimers have invested in The Row to build the next Chanel, not distract the Olsens from executing their vision. And their partners in the venture—the Bettencourt Meyers family office, Imaginary, and Lauren Santo Domingo—sure didn’t invest their capital in the business to have the Olsens abandon the company. (Fashion people, sometimes…)
Then there’s the working, increasingly convincing theory around Pieter Mulier. The Alaïa designer has sufficient experience dealing with multiple ateliers and managing large teams from his years working under Raf Simons, most notably at Dior. Plus, he has shown that he can transform a precious brand without demolishing what came before him in the process.

Most recently, a Wall Street Journal article gave credence to the idea that Chanel could hire Marc Jacobs, who wholeheartedly admitted that he is interested in the role. (He even enlisted his friend Sofia Coppola, who works regularly with Chanel, to put in a good word.) If Jacobs were to get the gig, that could free up LVMH to more seriously consider selling the Marc Jacobs business. (The company has denied that it’s for sale, but if they’re willing to sell Off-White and announce it on Virgil Abloh’s birthday, they’re willing to move anything for the right price.)

When all this Chanel talk started, a former Marc Jacobs employee recalled how Robert Duffy, the designer’s longtime business partner, would make jokes back in the brand’s heyday about how Jacobs’s Chanel contract was already signed. He was being facetious, but there’s no denying Jacobs would restore the Chanel fantasy. His Louis Vuitton fashion shows were some of the greatest performances I’ve ever seen.

Of course, there are still plenty of people rooting for Hedi Slimane and his tiny tweed jackets, although I heard once again this morning from people close to the situation that he may very well be staying within the LVMH group, despite his exit from Celine in September.

In a far less exciting scenario than any of the above, Chanel could opt to mimic the Hermès, Louis Vuitton, and Dior strategy and hire different people across the maisons
i.e., the brand manager route. Perhaps that’s why Hermès’ womenswear designer Nadège Vanhee’s name keeps popping up. I suspect that Cathy Horyn, who mentioned her name in a piece for The Cut last summer as a potential idea for Chanel, conjured that particular rumor into existence, and that Vanhee is better off staying put at the other independent luxury brand.

As I have underscored previously, the multi-designer strategy works better at companies like Hermès and Louis Vuitton, which are rooted in leather goods, than Dior, which is rooted in couture. Today, consumers shop leather goods brands partially out of practicality (or at least they like to think so). They shop fashion brands entirely out of frivolity, which requires more convincing and a strong point of view. The reality is there is no perfect person. Every candidate will check many of the boxes, but not all of them.

Nair and the Wertheimers appear to know what kind of company they want to be, but who will build it for them?
 
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I feel this multi team idea will be what they will announce in December, as a previous TFS´er mentioned as well.

In a far less exciting scenario than any of the above, Chanel could opt to mimic the Hermès, Louis Vuitton, and Dior strategy and hire different people across the maisons—i.e., the brand manager route.
 
Of course, there are still plenty of people rooting for Hedi Slimane and his tiny tweed jackets, although I heard once again this morning from people close to the situation that he may very well be staying within the LVMH group, despite his exit from Celine in September.
Could he be coming for MGC and KJ's jobs (and wigs)?
 
Everyone is hell-bent on keeping Hedi? Is he that worth it to keep after all those torturous negotiations? What job at LVMH other than total full control of Dior is commensurate to his status? Rehab of Givenchy? Then he should’ve stayed at Celine where he built things from scratch.

You know I feel like Marc’s time has passed, but even Hedi. But I guess the difference is that Hedi’s vision as much as it is repetitive is still potent. These two are very uneventful choices, even if logical. It’s just coalescing towards Slimane. It’s too obvious and boring to the point that he might not get it.

Pieter is fine with the standards this world is in, I’m not sure though if he could make Chanel pop. They have high expectations.
 
Sure Hedi at Dior again or maybe the Arnault's pull a Phoebe Philo and invest in the launch of his own brand.
 
There is no way Marc, the Olsens or P. Mulier are going to Chanel.

Thanks for the article, PDFSD. It was well written, but its author is like everybody else trying to figure out things through a very thick fog.

About the "new balance of power", which intrigues me a lot...
My theory:
Till the death of Karl, his "voice over like a personal god guided you to believe in a 10k coat" (PDFSD © 🤣). The designer was in a way also the PR of the brand and in charge of the storytelling.

But this type of very charismatic Creative Director is very rare nowadays. They want their privacy. Maybe they give one interview to The New York Times and that's it. The only interwiew I remember by Hedi was the one issued when he created the first and final Couture collection at Saint Laurent (spectacular interview, by the way, sharp like a razor).

I've been watching a couple interviews with Leena Nair. She is good at explaining Chanel. The same questions come over and over: Women, Chinese market, AI, human craftmanship vs. technology, the future of Chanel, sustainibility, inclusion, the long term decisions because they are a private company, her own personal story who everybody agrees to find very inspiring, the "lift while you climb" motto...

Maybe in the near future it's going to be the CEO the one in charge to explain the meaning of a brand, and the designers will only design.
Even here, a forum about fashion, names like S. Cantino, P. Beccari, M. Bizzarri, F. Bellettini, S. Toledano, C. Charbit, the Arnaults... are not unknown.
Maybe that is the next step: execs as the icons in fashion.

(sorry if this sounds apocalyptic and random 😅)
 

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