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here is the interview, posted and translated by the amazing MatCyruss at Bellazon
ZEIT MAGAZIN HAMBURG
the Interview by Jörg Böckem
My Translation
(i added some explanations in italic*)
When Toni Garrn wants to relax from her hectic model life, she comes to her hometown Hamburg. Here her days are more relaxed and she bakes. A conversation about her childhood in The Walddörfer (district of Hamburg), the apples of her grandparents from „Alten Land“ (means Old Country, an area near Hamburg well known for its Apple farms and apple production) , and why she had never been to the Fish Market (a well known market, every Sunday from 5 to10 am in Hamburg harbour. The location itself is called Fish Market & it’s also a tourist attraction)*
A restaurant in Hamburg-Rotherbaum, Toni Garrn has just finished sport, her gym is in the same building. Garrn lives in New York, currently she is in Hamburg, where she has an apartment, which she shares with her brother, who mostly lives in Munich. For the welcome, she fetches selfmade vegan banana bread from her sports bag.
ZEITmagazin: Mrs. Garrn, when does a busy model have time to bake?
Toni Garrn: Actually, only when I'm in Hamburg. Then I try to do things a bit more relaxed. For example, I do not plan to do anything before eleven o'clock in the morning. Today I baked three banana breads, went to the shoemaker, then went shopping, met a friend, then I was at the gym, and now I give an interview. For me this is a relaxing day.
ZEITmagazin: It doesn’t sound very relaxed to me.
Garrn: Then you should experience my days in New York! They are much quicker, I rarely see the same people in two days. In New York I don't cook, but I buy my food mostly on the go.
In Hamburg it’s different: here I make myself breakfast or bake banana bread, for example, like the one you’re eating with me.
If I’m exhausted after long journeys and strenuous jobs and I plan staying in New York for a week or two, to do everyday things, I get bored after two days at the latest. I try to be more relaxed, but it’s hard.
But baking relaxes me. Maybe I'll open a vegan bakery in Hamburg someday!
ZEITmagazin: How often are you in Hamburg?
Garrn: Whenever i have time. Last year seven or eight times. On Christmas I am always here for a week or two; then I meet family and friends. Nevertheless, I never manage to do everything I want to do. For example, I've never been to the Fish Market.
ZEITmagazin: Not even as teenager?
Garrn: I've never managed to go out that long to land at the fish market. By three at the latest, I went home, while my girls moved on. I'm not going out just to drink. I'm a dancer!
And quite impatient - I love to dance, but if I do not like the music, I wait two or three songs, then I leave the club and go home.
(for explanation: the Fish Market opens at 5 am & is only a 10 min. walk away from the famous Reeperbahn, where many clubs & bars are located. It’s a common thing/tradition for many people to visit the Fish Market after a club night, grab a snack before heading home)
ZEITmagazin: You were born in Hamburg, but you lived in London and Athens between the ages of four and 10, after high school you moved to New York. Do you still feel like a Hamburg native?
Garrn: Definitely! A few years ago I asked my grandparents on my father's side about my ancestors, I wanted to know if we had family roots in other countries.
My grandmother's reply was that her mother came from Kiel (a german city around 62 miles to the north of Hamburg)
That was the most exotic thing she could think of! My father's family comes from the Alten Land, fruit farmers for generations.
Even if I love to live in New York - Hamburg is my home, here I have friends and family. The place that is familiar to me more than anyone else.
ZEITmagazin: What makes you feel at home?
Garrn: The smell of apples and wood in the house of my grandparents. The taste of our apples, the interaction of fine acidity and sweetness. The best apples I know! But they must be cold!
In the US, I basically do not eat apples they taste like nothing. In New York I always rave about Hamburg to everyone, for me clearly the most beautiful city of Germany.*
Maybe I’m glorifying Hamburg - when I experience something unpleasant here, I do not think "typical Hamburg", but "typically German."
ZEITmagazin: What else is essential to YOUR Hamburg?
Garrn: The Walddörfer in the north-east, where I grew up. Just yesterday I drove past our old house. Immediately the memories of my childhood and youth were there again - the big trees in front of the house that gave shade in the summer; the darkness in winter.*
All my girlfriends have attended the same school, the Gymnasium in Ohlstedt, which also my mother has attended.*
Every day I went by bicycle through the district, to school, to horse riding lessons, to piano lessons. Even when we went out in the evening, my girlfriends and I always went by bike. I was allowed to go out as long as my older brother, he always had to bring us girls home.
This is for me Hamburg: to be outside, to ride a bicycle.*
And Budni! (short for Budnikowsky, a local drugstore) I love Budni, whenever I am in Hamburg, I go shopping there. This reminds me of my youth. And, of course, the seagulls and the Alster. When I have days off, I walk around the Alster. This is like a holiday for me.
Oh, Franzbrötchen, of course. Recently, I tried to bake sugar-free, vegan Franzbrötchen.*
(a pastry specialty, originally from Hamburg; it’s basically a variation of a cinnamon roll)*
ZEITmagazin: NOlympia protests, the protests of high earners against refugee housing: In the prestigious district Harvestehude, for example, indignant residents protested against a refugee home in their neighborhood. How much did you notice?
Garrn: In the US I don’t notice much about the protests against refugee housing. Harvestehude district is quite close to my Hamburg apartment, that frightens me a little.
In general, I should, devote myself more to German politics - my goal for this year.
ZEITmagazin: Do you already know who you will vote? (2017: it’s election year in Germany, we vote our new government in September)
Garrn: Not really. The Presidential election campaign in the USA, however, I experienced very intensively. On the day of the election I flew from Hamburg to New York; I got the results shortly before departure. When I arrived, the whole city was in shock, because the New Yorkers were for Hillary, and many, like myself, are not Americans, at least not originally.
Trump is so unpopular there, but I know, of course, that New York is kind of an island in the USA.
ZEITmagazin: You were discovered in 2006 as a 14-year-old at a fanfest for the soccer World Cup and were already booked exclusively by Calvin Klein the following year. A dream career.
Garrn: Yeah, just that I've never dreamed of becoming a model. I knew it was the dream of a lot of young women, but I did not waste any time thinking about it. Then I quickly realized that I had the chance to achieve a great career and took advantage of the opportunities I had. But I never put all eggs into one basket. It was always clear that I wanted to graduate from high school.
ZEITmagazin: Would you rate this down-to-earth attitude to your profession as a pre- or a disadvantage in hindsight?
Garrn: As an advantage, quite clear. I tried not to please or thought about what’s expected of me, how I could best sell myself - and was therefore always relaxed. That certainly helped me.
ZEITmagazin: What do you mean by that?
Garrn: In New York, they didn’t want any rehearsed model poses. That I didn’t even know them at the time, was my advantage. Those who booked a 14 or 15 year old girl also wanted to see a girl.
And when I had to wait for hours, I just lay on the floor and slept. It was only in retrospect that I realized that this very natural and untroubled thing was a good thing. At that time I was not aware of this at all.
ZEITmagazin: At that time, a large part of your life was „remote-controlled“.
Garrn: Rather: It was well looked after me. In New York, I couldn't even go to an appointment one block away.*
But that was necessary, because my mother had strictly supervised everything from Hamburg.
No one wanted a call from Mama Garrn while nobody knows where her daughter was.*
I was only 14, 15, 16.
ZEITmagazin: Was there a moment when you felt, "I'm right here, I've arrived in this dream job I'd never dreamed of"?
Garrn: Yeah, pretty early, at the Fashion Weeks, and that has remained my favorite moments to this day. During the Fashion Weeks I’ve lived with ten to 20 girls between 15 and 18 for 30 days in a house. We spent the day together, learning for school, walking the same shows. This was like a class trip into a completely bizarre adult world and has been a lot of fun.
As a 16 year old with other girls, at night with a giant pizza at Calvin Klein, to lie on the floor and waiting for your appearance, who is experiencing something like that?
ZEITmagazin: At that time you still went to school, flew between shootings in New York and school in Hamburg. How did you manage this balancing act?
Garrn: I had to prepare for exams in the airplane, or I solved math tasks during a job in my head. At that time I learned to multitask. Although it was very exhausting, it was also exciting for me. And: Harder than at this time it could hardly get in my job.
ZEITmagazin: Did your private life suffer from this multiple load?
Garrn: Sure. I have missed many birthdays, family festivities or parties because I had an important job. I often thought about canceling one or the other job, but I did not.
ZEIT MAGAZIN HAMBURG
the Interview by Jörg Böckem
My Translation
(i added some explanations in italic*)
When Toni Garrn wants to relax from her hectic model life, she comes to her hometown Hamburg. Here her days are more relaxed and she bakes. A conversation about her childhood in The Walddörfer (district of Hamburg), the apples of her grandparents from „Alten Land“ (means Old Country, an area near Hamburg well known for its Apple farms and apple production) , and why she had never been to the Fish Market (a well known market, every Sunday from 5 to10 am in Hamburg harbour. The location itself is called Fish Market & it’s also a tourist attraction)*
A restaurant in Hamburg-Rotherbaum, Toni Garrn has just finished sport, her gym is in the same building. Garrn lives in New York, currently she is in Hamburg, where she has an apartment, which she shares with her brother, who mostly lives in Munich. For the welcome, she fetches selfmade vegan banana bread from her sports bag.
ZEITmagazin: Mrs. Garrn, when does a busy model have time to bake?
Toni Garrn: Actually, only when I'm in Hamburg. Then I try to do things a bit more relaxed. For example, I do not plan to do anything before eleven o'clock in the morning. Today I baked three banana breads, went to the shoemaker, then went shopping, met a friend, then I was at the gym, and now I give an interview. For me this is a relaxing day.
ZEITmagazin: It doesn’t sound very relaxed to me.
Garrn: Then you should experience my days in New York! They are much quicker, I rarely see the same people in two days. In New York I don't cook, but I buy my food mostly on the go.
In Hamburg it’s different: here I make myself breakfast or bake banana bread, for example, like the one you’re eating with me.
If I’m exhausted after long journeys and strenuous jobs and I plan staying in New York for a week or two, to do everyday things, I get bored after two days at the latest. I try to be more relaxed, but it’s hard.
But baking relaxes me. Maybe I'll open a vegan bakery in Hamburg someday!
ZEITmagazin: How often are you in Hamburg?
Garrn: Whenever i have time. Last year seven or eight times. On Christmas I am always here for a week or two; then I meet family and friends. Nevertheless, I never manage to do everything I want to do. For example, I've never been to the Fish Market.
ZEITmagazin: Not even as teenager?
Garrn: I've never managed to go out that long to land at the fish market. By three at the latest, I went home, while my girls moved on. I'm not going out just to drink. I'm a dancer!
And quite impatient - I love to dance, but if I do not like the music, I wait two or three songs, then I leave the club and go home.
(for explanation: the Fish Market opens at 5 am & is only a 10 min. walk away from the famous Reeperbahn, where many clubs & bars are located. It’s a common thing/tradition for many people to visit the Fish Market after a club night, grab a snack before heading home)
ZEITmagazin: You were born in Hamburg, but you lived in London and Athens between the ages of four and 10, after high school you moved to New York. Do you still feel like a Hamburg native?
Garrn: Definitely! A few years ago I asked my grandparents on my father's side about my ancestors, I wanted to know if we had family roots in other countries.
My grandmother's reply was that her mother came from Kiel (a german city around 62 miles to the north of Hamburg)
That was the most exotic thing she could think of! My father's family comes from the Alten Land, fruit farmers for generations.
Even if I love to live in New York - Hamburg is my home, here I have friends and family. The place that is familiar to me more than anyone else.
ZEITmagazin: What makes you feel at home?
Garrn: The smell of apples and wood in the house of my grandparents. The taste of our apples, the interaction of fine acidity and sweetness. The best apples I know! But they must be cold!
In the US, I basically do not eat apples they taste like nothing. In New York I always rave about Hamburg to everyone, for me clearly the most beautiful city of Germany.*
Maybe I’m glorifying Hamburg - when I experience something unpleasant here, I do not think "typical Hamburg", but "typically German."
ZEITmagazin: What else is essential to YOUR Hamburg?
Garrn: The Walddörfer in the north-east, where I grew up. Just yesterday I drove past our old house. Immediately the memories of my childhood and youth were there again - the big trees in front of the house that gave shade in the summer; the darkness in winter.*
All my girlfriends have attended the same school, the Gymnasium in Ohlstedt, which also my mother has attended.*
Every day I went by bicycle through the district, to school, to horse riding lessons, to piano lessons. Even when we went out in the evening, my girlfriends and I always went by bike. I was allowed to go out as long as my older brother, he always had to bring us girls home.
This is for me Hamburg: to be outside, to ride a bicycle.*
And Budni! (short for Budnikowsky, a local drugstore) I love Budni, whenever I am in Hamburg, I go shopping there. This reminds me of my youth. And, of course, the seagulls and the Alster. When I have days off, I walk around the Alster. This is like a holiday for me.
Oh, Franzbrötchen, of course. Recently, I tried to bake sugar-free, vegan Franzbrötchen.*
(a pastry specialty, originally from Hamburg; it’s basically a variation of a cinnamon roll)*
ZEITmagazin: NOlympia protests, the protests of high earners against refugee housing: In the prestigious district Harvestehude, for example, indignant residents protested against a refugee home in their neighborhood. How much did you notice?
Garrn: In the US I don’t notice much about the protests against refugee housing. Harvestehude district is quite close to my Hamburg apartment, that frightens me a little.
In general, I should, devote myself more to German politics - my goal for this year.
ZEITmagazin: Do you already know who you will vote? (2017: it’s election year in Germany, we vote our new government in September)
Garrn: Not really. The Presidential election campaign in the USA, however, I experienced very intensively. On the day of the election I flew from Hamburg to New York; I got the results shortly before departure. When I arrived, the whole city was in shock, because the New Yorkers were for Hillary, and many, like myself, are not Americans, at least not originally.
Trump is so unpopular there, but I know, of course, that New York is kind of an island in the USA.
ZEITmagazin: You were discovered in 2006 as a 14-year-old at a fanfest for the soccer World Cup and were already booked exclusively by Calvin Klein the following year. A dream career.
Garrn: Yeah, just that I've never dreamed of becoming a model. I knew it was the dream of a lot of young women, but I did not waste any time thinking about it. Then I quickly realized that I had the chance to achieve a great career and took advantage of the opportunities I had. But I never put all eggs into one basket. It was always clear that I wanted to graduate from high school.
ZEITmagazin: Would you rate this down-to-earth attitude to your profession as a pre- or a disadvantage in hindsight?
Garrn: As an advantage, quite clear. I tried not to please or thought about what’s expected of me, how I could best sell myself - and was therefore always relaxed. That certainly helped me.
ZEITmagazin: What do you mean by that?
Garrn: In New York, they didn’t want any rehearsed model poses. That I didn’t even know them at the time, was my advantage. Those who booked a 14 or 15 year old girl also wanted to see a girl.
And when I had to wait for hours, I just lay on the floor and slept. It was only in retrospect that I realized that this very natural and untroubled thing was a good thing. At that time I was not aware of this at all.
ZEITmagazin: At that time, a large part of your life was „remote-controlled“.
Garrn: Rather: It was well looked after me. In New York, I couldn't even go to an appointment one block away.*
But that was necessary, because my mother had strictly supervised everything from Hamburg.
No one wanted a call from Mama Garrn while nobody knows where her daughter was.*
I was only 14, 15, 16.
ZEITmagazin: Was there a moment when you felt, "I'm right here, I've arrived in this dream job I'd never dreamed of"?
Garrn: Yeah, pretty early, at the Fashion Weeks, and that has remained my favorite moments to this day. During the Fashion Weeks I’ve lived with ten to 20 girls between 15 and 18 for 30 days in a house. We spent the day together, learning for school, walking the same shows. This was like a class trip into a completely bizarre adult world and has been a lot of fun.
As a 16 year old with other girls, at night with a giant pizza at Calvin Klein, to lie on the floor and waiting for your appearance, who is experiencing something like that?
ZEITmagazin: At that time you still went to school, flew between shootings in New York and school in Hamburg. How did you manage this balancing act?
Garrn: I had to prepare for exams in the airplane, or I solved math tasks during a job in my head. At that time I learned to multitask. Although it was very exhausting, it was also exciting for me. And: Harder than at this time it could hardly get in my job.
ZEITmagazin: Did your private life suffer from this multiple load?
Garrn: Sure. I have missed many birthdays, family festivities or parties because I had an important job. I often thought about canceling one or the other job, but I did not.
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ZEITmagazin: Your mother is part of your management team, sounds like conflict potential.
Garrn: Of course this is not always easy. We have a more emotional work-relationship than other models with their managers. But my mother is not involved in all aspects of my work. She manages the finances and coordinates my charity work - and she does it great.
ZEITmagazin: Who is more likely to assert oneself in disagreements?
Garrn: We argue, but in the end we always find an agreement. Of course, I have the last word, but I take the objections of my mother seriously. Actually it is nice that we are so close, even though I often travel around the world.
ZEITmagazin: You've been traveling the world for ten years. Is there still such a thing as a dream destination, a place of longing?
Garrn: Yes, Africa. So far I was in Zambia, Zimbabwe, South Africa, Burkina Faso and Morocco, mainly for my charity work, initially as ambassador of Plan International, then with my own foundation and on private journeys. I arrange well with a lot and I don’t need a comfortable hotel, I’d wash my hair with cold water if necessary. My dream is to visit every African country. I am interested in exploring foreign cities and other cultures. That's why I like to travel deep into the interior of the country, trying to get into conversation with people, to change something.
I know I lead a privileged life, and I want to return something.
ZEITmagazin: Is that the reason you had the idea for your foundation for education projects in Africa?
Garrn: Yes, that was a part. My foundation, however, I haven’t founded on a whim. It is designed for the long term and will be a part of my life, even when I no longer work as a model. In recent years, we have funded almost 700 African women with teacher training; at the moment we are building schools in Zimbabwe with attached dorm. I am proud to be able to realize such things at my age.
ZEITmagazin: Why Africa?
Garrn: My brother has been working in a school for disabled children in Cape Town for a year, and I've had a kind of key moment there: I never experienced so much zest for life and enthusiasm as with these children and young people, and began to ask myself,
what they could achieve, how they could bring their country forward, if they had the opportunity to go to school.
I wanted to strengthen this potential. Sure, there are numerous countries and people who need help. But you have to decide. Africa will always be part of my life.
ZEITmagazin: You specifically promote young women.
Garrn: This is my form of feminism: I am convinced that women who have the opportunity to exploit their potential can achieve more than men. They tend to think of others and pass on what they have learned. When a woman helps to feed herself, she also feeds her family and her village. The same goes for education. Also in the refugee crisis, we should, moreover, focus on women.
ZEITmagazin: You run your foundation, eat vegan. The state of the world is obviously not indifferent to you. At the same time, you are working in a profession that is not even resource-conserving or meaningful and requires constant flying.
Garrn: Unfortunately this is one of the downsides of my profession, because my work is not imaginable without flying. Especially in the USA, also meat consumption and farming driving climate change a lot. I live vegan, quit meat consumption seven years ago for health and ethical reasons too. This is the biggest contribution I can make without giving up my job. I can’t and will not permanently be the Toni-Diva, who refuses to fly and only travels in e-cars.
Ultimately, my job allows me to run my charity work as effectively as possible - how many projects we can realize depends on the donations we get. Therefore, it helps to be a successful model.
ZEITmagazin: Are there moments when you are a diva?
Garrn: Yes, when it comes to my almond milk. I have a milk allergy, but love coffee - and don’t like to drink it black.
That's why there must always be almond milk on the set. But apart from that I have no attitudes. At least I’m not aware of.
ZEITmagazin: How do you imagine your life in, say, 16 years?
Garrn: I think I'm more of a classic: at forty I have three or four children, rather four. We live in a big house with huge kitchen and huge wardrobe. Where exactly, I can not say, it should not be too cold. I spend the day at home, bake, cook, take care of the household and especially my children. And of those in Africa.
ZEITmagazin: Seriously? Wouldn’t such a life bore you terribly?
Garrn: Boredom with four children? I doubt it. I wanted to have four children as a little girl, maybe because the times I spent with my brother and my seven cousins are among my best childhood memories. We played together, romped around and played soccer. That was family to me. Thats how i imagine it too
ZEITmagazin: Your mother is part of your management team, sounds like conflict potential.
Garrn: Of course this is not always easy. We have a more emotional work-relationship than other models with their managers. But my mother is not involved in all aspects of my work. She manages the finances and coordinates my charity work - and she does it great.
ZEITmagazin: Who is more likely to assert oneself in disagreements?
Garrn: We argue, but in the end we always find an agreement. Of course, I have the last word, but I take the objections of my mother seriously. Actually it is nice that we are so close, even though I often travel around the world.
ZEITmagazin: You've been traveling the world for ten years. Is there still such a thing as a dream destination, a place of longing?
Garrn: Yes, Africa. So far I was in Zambia, Zimbabwe, South Africa, Burkina Faso and Morocco, mainly for my charity work, initially as ambassador of Plan International, then with my own foundation and on private journeys. I arrange well with a lot and I don’t need a comfortable hotel, I’d wash my hair with cold water if necessary. My dream is to visit every African country. I am interested in exploring foreign cities and other cultures. That's why I like to travel deep into the interior of the country, trying to get into conversation with people, to change something.
I know I lead a privileged life, and I want to return something.
ZEITmagazin: Is that the reason you had the idea for your foundation for education projects in Africa?
Garrn: Yes, that was a part. My foundation, however, I haven’t founded on a whim. It is designed for the long term and will be a part of my life, even when I no longer work as a model. In recent years, we have funded almost 700 African women with teacher training; at the moment we are building schools in Zimbabwe with attached dorm. I am proud to be able to realize such things at my age.
ZEITmagazin: Why Africa?
Garrn: My brother has been working in a school for disabled children in Cape Town for a year, and I've had a kind of key moment there: I never experienced so much zest for life and enthusiasm as with these children and young people, and began to ask myself,
what they could achieve, how they could bring their country forward, if they had the opportunity to go to school.
I wanted to strengthen this potential. Sure, there are numerous countries and people who need help. But you have to decide. Africa will always be part of my life.
ZEITmagazin: You specifically promote young women.
Garrn: This is my form of feminism: I am convinced that women who have the opportunity to exploit their potential can achieve more than men. They tend to think of others and pass on what they have learned. When a woman helps to feed herself, she also feeds her family and her village. The same goes for education. Also in the refugee crisis, we should, moreover, focus on women.
ZEITmagazin: You run your foundation, eat vegan. The state of the world is obviously not indifferent to you. At the same time, you are working in a profession that is not even resource-conserving or meaningful and requires constant flying.
Garrn: Unfortunately this is one of the downsides of my profession, because my work is not imaginable without flying. Especially in the USA, also meat consumption and farming driving climate change a lot. I live vegan, quit meat consumption seven years ago for health and ethical reasons too. This is the biggest contribution I can make without giving up my job. I can’t and will not permanently be the Toni-Diva, who refuses to fly and only travels in e-cars.
Ultimately, my job allows me to run my charity work as effectively as possible - how many projects we can realize depends on the donations we get. Therefore, it helps to be a successful model.
ZEITmagazin: Are there moments when you are a diva?
Garrn: Yes, when it comes to my almond milk. I have a milk allergy, but love coffee - and don’t like to drink it black.
That's why there must always be almond milk on the set. But apart from that I have no attitudes. At least I’m not aware of.
ZEITmagazin: How do you imagine your life in, say, 16 years?
Garrn: I think I'm more of a classic: at forty I have three or four children, rather four. We live in a big house with huge kitchen and huge wardrobe. Where exactly, I can not say, it should not be too cold. I spend the day at home, bake, cook, take care of the household and especially my children. And of those in Africa.
ZEITmagazin: Seriously? Wouldn’t such a life bore you terribly?
Garrn: Boredom with four children? I doubt it. I wanted to have four children as a little girl, maybe because the times I spent with my brother and my seven cousins are among my best childhood memories. We played together, romped around and played soccer. That was family to me. Thats how i imagine it too
