Too Simple

[Ceptuouse]

What Designs do you think are too simple to be sold at such a high price? I decided to do this thread after seeing a plain white Dior Homme t-shirt for £165.00 when you could buy one exactly the same for £5 or less!

 

[Ceptuouse]

Gucci shirt, but how can you tell its Gucci?

 

[arlekindearrabal]

the thing is simple, they're overpriced because, as luxury brands, they can afford to do it without the customer thinking much of it... a cousin of mine works at coach, and he told that the bags that retail for about 500 dlls, really cost like about 1 dll to make... the trick's on us!

 

[Arturo21]

Gucci shirt, but how can you tell its Gucci?

Are you saying the only point of wearing the shirt and paying for the shirt is just so everybody can know you're wearing Gucci?

Now, I can't say I agree with all this. For example, some Carol Christian Poell and Label Under Construction pieces and such are at the height of minimalism (Which is the beautiful part, no tacky logo all over } . However, the quality is superb. There you go, simple, yet expensive. I definately justify the pricing.

 

[AlexN]

Gucci shirt, but how can you tell its Gucci?

The purpose of the shirt is not for people to see it and realize that it's Gucci. Nor is the purpose of a Dior Homme t-shirt to let people know you're wearing Dior Homme.

Both of the aforementioned brands are overpriced just like any other high-end label, but I've certainly never seen a $10 t-shirt that was comparable to a DH tee. It's about the cut, fabric, details... And I can tell you I'd rather have three Dior Homme t-shirts than fifty $10 generic tees. The difference may not be apparent in the pictures, but it's there.

 

[morgan38]

Lots of stuff by Hermes

 

[raijin]

No matter what it should have some kind of distinguishing details, even if it is CCP or LUC
or Gucci it doesn't matter.
Personally, I think they have a very distinctive touch that you would not miss in any case.
I do think that some of thier items are over-priced, as you don't neccesarily need to go to them for quality, just the signature designs.

As for that shirt, I don't think its entirely un-recognizable as gucci, You can pick up on fabric and the cut of the garment.

 

[faust]

Gucci shirt, but how can you tell its Gucci?

It will say "Gucci" on the buttons - which you can't see from the picture you posted.

 

[Johnny]

The purpose of the shirt is not for people to see it and realize that it's Gucci. Nor is the purpose of a Dior Homme t-shirt to let people know you're wearing Dior Homme.

Both of the aforementioned brands are overpriced just like any other high-end label, but I've certainly never seen a $10 t-shirt that was comparable to a DH tee. It's about the cut, fabric, details... And I can tell you I'd rather have three Dior Homme t-shirts than fifty $10 generic tees. The difference may not be apparent in the pictures, but it's there.

Precisely correct, in all respects.

 

[Hipkitten]

Not to beat the proverbial dead horse here, but one shouldn't be buying designer simply because the label is plastered all over it. Ever notice the stuff with the obvious label is cheaper in price than its more discrete cousins? Buy designer for the quality, craftsmanship, and style - not because it says whatever label here. I suggest if you can't afford to buy quality designer items all in one shot, you build your wardrobe slowly with quality pieces. In my opinion, it just makes sense to spend more on classic pieces than on trendy, in-and-out-in-six-months items

 

[PrinceOfCats]

I would buy designer clothing for the design, not the manufacture. If you want to get all theoretical on me then yes, design and manufacture are inseperable, the product is worthless without the process and all that jazz, but you know what I mean.

Wear Savile Row and drive a BMW if all you want is something well made.

 

[Mr-Dale]

I think the point that JR1 is making with his You can't even tell that it's Gucci, is not that pointing out that labels matter, but the fact that there just isn't any visible difference between a Gucci shirt and one for 5 dollars. That's it I think. And to me too, why would you pay so much money on a white t-shirt when you can just buy one for 5 quid just around the block. I don't believe in quality difference for a simple tee is important at all. I mean, white tees are mostly used to wear underneath something or when working out or whatever. It's not like it's necesary to be so high of quality for that purpose. At least, that's the way I see it.

 

[marrimoda]

Gucci shirt, but how can you tell its Gucci?

I am thinking that JR1 means to ask -- what distinguishes this shirt from one that is cheaper, what about this Gucci shirt merits the $$$ versus the $.
At least, thats what I am hoping the original question is asking.

Personally I always evaluate based on the feel of the fabric, the stitching and silhouette when comparing similar garments. And I NEVER buy anything with a designer name, initials or logo plastered on it. Not garments and not bags either. You wont find me carrying a LV bag.

It turns me off.

 

[heathshirts]

Plain. Lame?

When we buy a tee shirt most pay for the quality and fit - a plain shirt can be made with finest of workmanship and fit like a glove. As for the brand name, are you buying so people know you're wearing a great name or are you making the purchase because you know the brand name has a proven reputation for quality and style?

Something to think about.

Stripey tees at:
*please see tfs guidelines*
HEATH

 

[seeing_double]

I think the question of quality and style can only be aroused when dealing with certain brands. Dior Homme, although encountering a decline in quality, has details and construction that cannot be found elsewhere. However, Gucci and Prada, although "luxury" brands, are extremely lacking in quality IMO. You could easily buy a Prada-quality button up or a gucci tee at H&M (Ok maybe thats a bit of an exaggeration...but you get my point). I thinbk a good illustration of this concept is with luxury jeans. If I were to buy a pair of jeans at american eagle, I would have a hole ripped in the *** within a month. But if I just bite the bullet and purchase a pair from Dior, Diesel, ect. I will have them a lifetime.

 

[Fade to Black]

what distinguishes that Gucci shirt from a black shirt from, say, Express is details such as the cut of the body, the collar, the fabric, all of which will be superior in the Gucci version.

Dior Homme tees in my opinion are not worth their price, however.

 

[Spacemiu]

No matter what it should have some kind of distinguishing details, even if it is CCP or LUC
or Gucci it doesn't matter.
Personally, I think they have a very distinctive touch that you would not miss in any case.
I do think that some of thier items are over-priced, as you don't neccesarily need to go to them for quality, just the signature designs.

I agree.

 

[Fade to Black]

I think the question of quality and style can only be aroused when dealing with certain brands. Dior Homme, although encountering a decline in quality, has details and construction that cannot be found elsewhere. However, Gucci and Prada, although "luxury" brands, are extremely lacking in quality IMO. You could easily buy a Prada-quality button up or a gucci tee at H&M (Ok maybe thats a bit of an exaggeration...but you get my point). I thinbk a good illustration of this concept is with luxury jeans. If I were to buy a pair of jeans at american eagle, I would have a hole ripped in the *** within a month. But if I just bite the bullet and purchase a pair from Dior, Diesel, ect. I will have them a lifetime.

Actually, I think you may be overstating the quality of Dior Homme by a bit. Gucci clothes, whether you hate 'em or love 'em, has MUCH better quality in its use of luxurious fabrics than Dior Homme. Prada's quality is not as good, but things such as knit, cashmere, etc. is still much superior to the quality of Dior Homme's knits.

The one area that DH will have a competitive edge in is suits and tailored jackets. That's about it. DH tees, especially recent ones, has a low quality that can be backed up by stories over at MSN of how they twisted horribly and some even ripped by the time the season was over (S/S 05). My Dior Homme $450 button down shirt has been worn less than ten times and one side of the collar is having trouble staying down right now. The quality of the wool sweaters I've seen, at least from VotC were very good, but from my recent trip to see the newer stuff it's all garbage.

 

[seeing_double]

I have never been dissapointed with Dior Homme quality. I only used it as an example because that is what the thread was started over. Even though Gucci may use more luxuriopus fabrics I would have to disagree with you on the quality. I once purchased a shirt there which began to fray at the seams within a week. Now maybe it was just my luck, but I certainly am not going to buy another gucci shirt.

 

[Fade to Black]

what kinda shirt did you buy at Gucci? A tee/polo or a button down shirt? From the stuff I saw at the Gucci store for this season, it was all very good quality...even the jeans, even though the cut is not my cup of tea were very sturdy and well constructed.

Anyway we'll just have to agree to disagree because of course there will be varying differences in experiences and individual items, some of which might be the exception or maybe not, who knows...I'm just saying, Dior Homme isn't exactly the best example to bring up in discussions of quality.