Ulyana Sergeenko Haute Couture S/S 2025 Dubai

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The world is hopeless and distasteful when you see high fashion shows parading in Dubai while people are being bombed and starved not that far away. How could anyone expect the fashion industry to hold higer morality? I would say they are just as disillusioned as the working class American hoping either one of their parties to help them. At the end of the day, it is just the same business serving the rich around the world who don't give a damn to humanity.
 
do people seriously think that Ulyana Sergeenko, of all people, should rail pointlessly against the Putin regime, knowing that her words will have zero impact and that she and her extended family will be in danger of imprisonment, property confiscation etc.
Well then maybe she shouldn’t push the Russian style narrative in the west, should she? She’s very comfortably sitting on 2 chairs it seems to me. Nobody is asking her to rail against the regime, but having the best of both worlds in this context is dirty
 
Come on, that country is capitalist at its core just like the U.S. but in guise of communism. Otherwise, there will be no luxury goods or luxury goods for everyone. If you look at the wealth inequality there where its political and business elites shop high fashion like their western capitalist, you will begin to question the meaning of communism.
Yes, that’s the world we live in now, a world where ideological conflicts are no longer truly fought. But perhaps you’re confusing capitalism with the concept of a market economy (something that came from the evolution of human society, not something invented by capitalism). Market economies only truly flourished under capitalism, yes, but that doesn’t make them exclusive to it. And let me be clear, there has never been a truly communist country in the world. All so-called communist nations are, at best, in a transitional phase toward socialism. Even Vietnam, arguably the most open socialist nation, is still far from a full communist state.

What’s funny is how loudly some people denounce communism without ever having read Marxism, or understanding dialectical materialism, or even the basics of historical materialism. They’ve been spoon-fed talking points by the “progressive” propaganda, never stopping to question where their information comes from. And if not for communism, Vietnam would never have become an independent nation. It would’ve never been able to drive out the imperialist forces of France, Japan, or the United States. As a colonized nation, communism wasn’t just a political choice, it was the only path to liberation at the time tbh.

Luxury goods and inequality exist everywhere, no matter the political system. That’s not about ideology, that’s about human nature. Most people in any nations don’t live with a sense of history, let alone political consciousness, they just live their casual life and dgaf about political, philosophy etc. And maybe that’s why Marxist ideals get called utopian or naive because the most important subject of history, the people, often lack a clear political consciousness or a sense of their historical mission in today’s world.

But the fact remains, communist ideology helped many nations break free from suffering and colonial domination. The real issue is that only a handful of such nations remain today, and that scarcity makes global integration harder, no matter how willing they are.
 
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Well, if that communism is what you mean, I really don't know which one is the worse: communism and liberalism. Maybe I should spend the rest of my nomadic life in a remote region of central Asia.
 
whilst I find the creative output of sergeenko as deeply uninspiring as anyone, it seems extremely hypocritical to castigate or ostracise her or those who choose to work with her solely due to their nationality - nobody chooses their place of birth - do people seriously think that Ulyana Sergeenko, of all people, should rail pointlessly against the Putin regime, knowing that her words will have zero impact and that she and her extended family will be in danger of imprisonment, property confiscation etc.

do those who support "cancelling" her, also condemn American designers and wish to cancel NY FW bc *checks notes* in the past month the US have provided weapons to Israel, occupied part of Syria and bombed civilians in Yemen.

its really naive to compare (borderline?) russian oligarchs with like..l telfar clemens, sandy liang etc or whatever-- you'd have better luck comparing them to an isreali designer but even then it's not comporable imo, natalia, irina, ulyana-- none of these women explicitly condemned the russian invasion of ukraine-- they won't go against putin, that's gross.
 
Shady dealings aside, are we really that surprised? Karl Lagerfeld himself knew that the majority of the Chanel and Fendi couture clients were in some deeply regressive, manipulative and shady business/point of views and knew not to ask. It’s part of the job, and frankly its clients and dealings such as these that really helps keep fashion afloat but we’re afraid to admit that.

I’m not fond of this collection, but it has its place. You know who it is for and why it exists, and somebody/ies has to do it. Unfortunately, fashion will never be a pure dealing nor business. That’s the way it is. Sure this is more obvious, but really it’s kind of better that way. Makes the niche of this more understandable and easier to just ignore or face away because again, it does and have to exist. I don’t like it, but you gotta accept it. We can cry wolf about Ulyana too, but there’s those like Rick Owen’s that fraternise with black market organ dealers and foreign antiquities (I.e an Egyptian sarcophagus that hasn’t been fully exhumed) that are kind of ignored. It’s everywhere. Hate to say it but it is true.
 
Well, if that communism is what you mean, I really don't know which one is the worse: communism and liberalism. Maybe I should spend the rest of my nomadic life in a remote region of central Asia.
Btw Your profile picture is cool, look like in Lhasa or somewhere else in Tibet, Ladakh ?
 
Btw Your profile picture is cool, look like in Lhasa or somewhere else in Tibet, Ladakh ?
Ladakh in Ghibli style but I did wear a tibetan cloke.
 
Rick Owen’s that fraternise with black market organ dealers and foreign antiquities (I.e an Egyptian sarcophagus that hasn’t been fully exhumed) that are kind of ignored. It’s everywhere. Hate to say it but it is true.
Could you please tell more about this??
 
Could you please tell more about this??
In his architectural digest video, it opens with the snippet of the sarcophagus. Personally, I’m not okay with that but he discusses it so calmly and meditatively it’s a little unnerving.

For the other part, I’m trying to find it and the name but a lot of it has been wiped. He was also making bags out of questionable exotic materials and paraphernalia but it was someone Rick frequently invited to the shows. There was evidence between this guy and his link to black market human trafficking and organ selling, but again has become hard to find (unless I go into the dark web). It doesn’t surprise me, mainly considering the type of people that gravitate towards Rick Owens, but it bothers me other designers are called out for similar actions but he’s left alone.
 
^ YES!!!! This is the guy!

Also moderators feel free to delete or redirect this tangent elsewhere if need be. Apologise for what our sleuthing has now become 😭
 
In his architectural digest video, it opens with the snippet of the sarcophagus. Personally, I’m not okay with that but he discusses it so calmly and meditatively it’s a little unnerving.

For the other part, I’m trying to find it and the name but a lot of it has been wiped. He was also making bags out of questionable exotic materials and paraphernalia but it was someone Rick frequently invited to the shows. There was evidence between this guy and his link to black market human trafficking and organ selling, but again has become hard to find (unless I go into the dark web). It doesn’t surprise me, mainly considering the type of people that gravitate towards Rick Owens, but it bothers me other designers are called out for similar actions but he’s left alone.
Thank you @Cocteau Stone and @JohannesL for the info! It´s really shocking!! Now I understand why they call Rick "The Prince of Darkness"...
 
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