US Elle April 2022 : Precious Lee by Adrienne Raquel

[kokobombon]

I noticed that everytime someone criticizes a woc, it´s racism. Can we not criticize a model skills if she´s black? no one says anything when the same criticism is aimed at Kendall or the Hadids...

 

[SLFC]

I noticed that everytime someone criticizes a woc, it´s racism. Can we not criticize a model skills if she´s black? no one says anything when the same criticism is aimed at Kendall or the Hadids...

Because the criticisms are unwarranted, and nobody is criticizing her for the criticisms you are saying people are making. The fact you ask this question, and then implying something straight wrong. Shows you are part of that "crowd" and are just being disingenuous and dishonest about your question. You have no idea what you are saying.

 

[kokobombon]

^people are saying she´s a bad model (hands on hips, not versatile) same as with Kendall (or Kendull, does Precious have a nickname like that?). Or are critics of the "plus size" trend, remember when the same happened to Lara or Gigi because of their body type?

 

[Bertrando3]

We are not authorized to talk body types so I will refrain on that nevertheless I don't see anything special about her whatsoever. I do believe though that if for many people a ''fashion model'' quote on quote from the traditional sense of the term does not mean her way of modeling or Kendall's lazy tricks to make some people believe she truly has skills lol. Nope neither are good for me. Now: Luna, Vittoria, Adut and the new crop of girls yeah, I do see talent in how they pose, how they walk and ultimately how they convey to both photographers and readers the sense that they are high fashion models and can be chameleons. Kendall or Precious aren't that.

 

[tigerrouge]

As is the case with so many other magazines, the points and opinions in this thread are going to be a lot more interesting than anything contained within this issue. I read them all.

I also read every article in every magazine I own, and then I wonder why I never get anything done.

 

[Deleted member 141523]

I would love to pick the green cover from newsstand, but this edition doesn't sell here (as I know). But I'm beyond happy collecting local ELLE with OG material. Wish I can show what they're doing here because it's stunning. The ELLE brand can't stop growing on me. I'm sure I have more issues of ELLE than Vogue. I'm glad Nina is making this edition with such a level again. Compare recent covers with the disaster of the late 2000s/early 2010s. You will see a incredible transformation.

 

[cestmagique]

To quote all that empathy and compassion seen in the US Vogue thread:

"Models covers with models telling us about their life are never groundbreaking anyway."
"I can't stand this faux deep emotional existentialism."
"Fifty million people want this. Sadly."
"The interview IS very Oprah, it’s a bit depressing. The more issues you have, the more gold stars you get. Everyone airs their problems, saying how they want to put a face to this struggle, or that struggle, or show other's that you can be successful even with this debilitating diagnosis! Etc. etc. etc."
"The mood and energy of the cover image is more 'downtrodden victim telling her story to a weekly news magazine.'"
"I haven't read the full article but based on the excerpts I've seen, this cover story follows a strange trend of 'modeling and/or the industry is brutal. It capitalizes on and exacerbates my insecurities. My mental and physical health have suffered in myriad ways because of my career. Anyway, enjoy my modeling photos!'"
"...at this point I thought I was the only one to notice this sick and twisted narrative that people want to give these days as if they are victims but on the other hand want to be seen as hero and example to the world."
"What I can't get over is the interview - so many levels of cringe."

We all see what we want to see in other people's words, and we are all capable of the same rant over and over again.

Oh please, you quoted my own post which WAS sympathetic to Bella, how misleading is that? Like I don't know what I wrote? Dior_couture posted in that thread and had all kinds of softness and sympathy for her, meanwhile Precious can't talk about her own life and experiences without getting ripped to shreds, and between her and Bella she's not the one who seems to be looking for people's sympathy.

 

[Phuel]

No risk is worth mentioning because someone else somewhere took a greater one, no struggle is worth mentioning because someone somewhere is struggling more. It’s all relative. She’s not demanding a Nobel prize for it, she’s just engaging with the writer about her life and career path. I didn’t sense, reading the article, that she has an outsized sense of her own importance and struggle. But I suppose life - and certainly this forum - would be dull if we all saw things exactly the same.

Fair enough.

I’m indifferent to her as a Super for a generation. All of them— from Kendall, Adut to Bella, are unremarkable.

It goes without saying she’s a very pretty woman. I don’t need to preface this before posting she’s the type of model that bores me— like Anna Cleveland, Coco Rocha. (I get it, she slays/werq/yaaaassss queen etc etc.) It’s just a preference. And I’m just bored of her always bringing in identity-politics. Or if that’s not her intention, these features always bring it up, and she seems to revel in it: It’s always the same self-congratulatory rhetoric with her. In the Bazaar feature, she mentioned that being an educated, sassy, empowered, big Black woman intimidates people (apparently). Who is intimidated…??? Perhaps she had mistaken being critical of her caricatural modelling skills as being intimidated by her being an “educated, sassy, empowered, big Black woman”? I simply find it all so self-serving, manipulative, strategic to endear and commodify her name/brand to the masses.

(Many many many models starting out are just so grateful to have some work— whether that’s catalogue/convention/event etc. And unfortunately, they have to leave, or their agency drops them, for not being booked, not just for paying jobs, but even for test shoots. That she was working for 9 years, even having the means to pursue modelling for 9 years, is something to be grateful for, rather than seeing it as a “ truggle". Those that have worked closely with model agencies, know how many potentially amazing-looking women and men end up being rejected all the time, and they just move on.)

 

[dior_couture1245]

Oh please, you quoted my own post which WAS sympathetic to Bella, how misleading is that? Like I don't know what I wrote? Dior_couture posted in that thread and had all kinds of softness and sympathy for her, meanwhile Precious can't talk about her own life and experiences without getting ripped to shreds, and between her and Bella she's not the one who seems to be looking for people's sympathy.

I did??

I don't think you read my post there clearly. I said it was really sad that she's so brainwashed into thinking the only way she can be special or get attention is to have a litany of issues. Before, the way to be "in" was to have a perm. Now, to be "in," you have to have depression and anxiety. That's f*cked up. I dislike that just as much as I dislike the "as an educated, big, black woman I had it so hard" schtick.

And I'm not even a Bella fan. There are moments when I think she looks good, but most of the time, it's never quite there for me. So she's neither here nor there. Precious is a model I do not like because she tries too hard to be "iconic." That's a very grating trait for me. Everything and everyone now is so self-consciously ICONIC, QWUEEEEN, WERQ. Enough!

 

[cestmagique]

^Nope. Your post in that thread called Bella "a very sweet girl," you said "it's sad to see her swallowed up in such darkness." So yes, I would qualify that as being soft and compassionate. It struck me because I don't know that I've ever seen you talk like that. Your posts in this thread certainly don't empathize with Precious at all even while you guys keep mentioning her "struggle."

You keep bringing up Precious's blackness. You're using words like "ICONIC, QWUEEEEN, WERQ" as... insults based on what other people might say when they see her/her work? Definitely no implications in those word choices! "As an educated, big, black woman I had it so hard"-- she's educated, which means what? That her education served her a modeling career on a silver platter? That no aspect of her life could be difficult because she's educated? That's such a non-point. Also, it's comical to act like being big and black was not a disadvantage, but you always dismiss factors like that as if they simply don't exist. If she talks about it, she's either whining or self-aggrandizing. Bella is sweet and sad, Precious should shut up and get over herself. Precious started modeling nine years ago. She didn't just pop up in this moment of greater diversity to instantaneous success. I don't even CARE about these two particular models! I'm just sick of these nonsense posts all over the place, always happily punching down.

 

[FashionMuseDior]

Everyone is for sure entitled to their own opinion so we can agree to disagree whether this or that model is your cup of tea or not, whether their narrative feels right or wrong, or whether ultimately their work stands the test of time. I love what Precious Lee brings to the table, and I love seeing a full-figured or plus size black model or however you want to call it being embraced in fashion.

 

[tigerrouge]

Would I like to see Precious on more covers? Yes.
Would I like to see her being shot by Meisel again? Yes.
Would I like to see what different titles would do with her? Yes.
Would I prefer to see her on a cover instead of someone like Gigi? Yes.

 

[JPineapple]

Loving the vibrancy of the main cover.

And as expected, whenever she gets featured on a cover, I'd see a lot of comments replying to invisible comments. The latter of which, I can imagine are nothing short of vile. So thank you TFS for creating the ignore button.

I love you for this.

 

[Bernie Flood]

Her boobies at the end though

 

[vogue28]

Elle just on a complete roll outshining Vogue and Harper's Bazaar! I'm loving this newfound confidence Nina Garcia seems to have in selecting cover stars and cover images. Another knockout series of covers here, love how bold, electric and vibrant all three are. Precious looks spectacular!

 

[guimon]

She looks stunning as usual and I love Precious.

 

[KoV]

Looked through my copy today. Of course I got the b&w cover. I'd consider picking up another copy at the newstand for the cover I prefer, but the content isn't making that an appealing prospect. 3 editorials, my favorite of which is Precious'. 146 pages.

 

[kissmesweet]

I really love this cover and the editorial with Precious! How fresh!

 

[VogueGirl8910]

The close-up photo is stunning, reminds me the old covers of US Vogue from the 60's by Avedon or Penn. The last preview of her edit is blew because i don't like her pose on this shot.

 

[Zorka]

THE UNSTOPPABLE PRECIOUS LEE
Photography: Adrienne Raquel
Styling: Patti Wilson
Hair: Evanie Frausto
Make-up: Raoúl Alejandre
Model: Precious Lee



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