Valentino Pre-Fall 2025 Milan

I don’t mind his old Gucci is back, but I hope he can edit out those juvenile looks and tone down the styling because some of the outfits has the timeless elegance when wearing separately.
 
Thrift store dusty couture again. Groundbreaking. Yawn. Basically another collection made of last season's show scraps and rejected looks, which are already scraps and rejects from the previous Cruise collection.
No one wants Gucci knock offs in 2025. Talking about inability to evolve your language, visions and proposition.
Terrible bags again. Do they really think they will be able to boost sales with that cheapified version of the Celine triomphe with V logo clasp?
 
I see this on Romy and Michelle's sequel wardrobe...lol.....
 
Can we just pile everything up and burn ‘em all in a dumpster fire?

I want my elegant Valentino back, not this rehash 201x Gucci thrift store crap
 
Many individual pieces are quite beautiful and definitely fit within the Valentino universe. But it's the opposite of effortless. Everything feels like a costume with him.
 
I hate the cast and presentation. It’s such a cop out of him to keep doing this for another house. It detracts from the otherwise pretty clothes.
I’m craving for an edit, a stronger story and push for a certain look embedded within the clothes instead of the models.
 
Tone it down to 30 looks, get Lulu, get rid of the obnoxious styling (I really hate the gloves in particular) and then we can start the conversation. Other than that, I’m not willing to make an effort to see Valentino when there’s more Michelisms than anything else.
 
He will never let Valentino influence his fashion, it will always be HIS fashion influencing Valentino.

And I wonder how long he can do that. His look is already tired. It still has appeal but what he's going to do when it's finished? I can say the same thing about Demna. lol
 
Some of these are actually very classic Italian glamour actually, very Mila Schön. Get rid of the tassels on every cape, nobody wants to look like a walking rug, the heart motifs, the glasses and the socks (that whole "take off 1 thing before you get out the door" motto), they definitely have something desirable here. The hats too are quite chic as are the color schemes and as separates these will look different on people depends on taste and individual interpretation. It's futile to compare him to the founder otherwise, that ship has sailed.
 
As usual like in his Gucci days, I’m sold on the tailoring. Perfect cut.

It’s quite amazing to see how with just 3 collections out, I’m already exhausted by his tenure. His Gucci years weren’t that much of a long tenure but it felt like 20 years because of the amount of stuff & the sameness of it all…

For me, it’s still not Valentino.
Or it’s Valentino clothes on the Alessandro Michele woman/man.

It will be very interesting to see if good merchandising and the hanger appeal will just work in this case or if women/men needs to identify with a vision.
At Celine, Hedi Slimane had that issue with his first collection. It wasn’t enough to turn things around when he switched in terms of vision (his second collection). Ultimately, through the pandemic, marketing and merchandising worked on his favor but it’s only after that he aligned his vision with the brand and the merchandising followed.

I don’t know if Michele is still capable of that. His earlier Gucci collections and even when he shot Frida’s last collection as his first campaign proved that he doesn’t need the extra styling for his vision to stand out.

I’m very curious to see what Couture will look like in January. Will it be a more and more and more situation or something more sensible.
 

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