What is most ESSENTIAL for designer's look

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I mean to establish such look that is infl by the style cathegories of season..
there is such jurisproduction-dior homme ,raf,"paris club"

Dior Homme by hedi Slimane - the fabric,materials = Komsomoletz of mid 70's

(-) it is minus

aug 2004 me and my friend who works Milan and he is very familiar with dior homme milan store and staff ,so we got same born place...

16h afternoon...40 celsius..we got rendez-vous...

I haven't see him from a year,and he tald me by e mails about his dior homme purchases

I approx the plase of RV...
and from 30 meteres I sow a total STRIP look..white sneakers,slim grey jeans,super fiting shirt(franz ferd -matinee video fitting shirt)..hair sculpted as gan kalirdos do it..


fastly I understand that my frend from Milan is waiting me 30 meters down from this boy..
I am surprised...what a paralax...what a aberatio

My friend was and wasn't in the one and same moment in dior homme in my eyes..

10 meters I so close and I understand the reason of this deception

the reason of this quazi,schizoid Dior-ed figure,person..

it was mentaly handicaped person,walking spectaculary(as I am penchant to elab my tics and paroxismistic walking) in summer vacantion from the chlorazin ,Haloperidol and all the legacy of communistic psychiatry...

I am asking my friend "did you note this"

-yes.he exclaim -"I am observing him already a 15 minutes..and damn me...why i didn't took my dig camera..."(by the way picture I loaded as a fashsophist in the previous format was made by this camera 2 hours after ,but we lost this boy as a yetti in tundra)

is there any necessity to add more theoretic,aesthetic speculations...

the difference is simple..the textures,fabrics (the cut is function of fabric) is working as a principe,as a platonist idea..they are mostly essential for capitalist ,post-modern,consumatorist conditio of cloth as a shopping aim...
but in the same the cloth have it's own phenomenology,sense...

you know the difference when in the muppet theatre the actor plays a punk..with white sabo,flair jeans,long barb and arteficial mohicanoo for the head...but this is because of dictatorship of scene...everything could be everything..so I take eastern situation as schizoid-ed on same principe
eastern is ruled and fortifyed by money,capital..that;s why dior homme runway do not failed to a role of punk in muppet theatre and to schizo looking person or street closhard
 
and I see how the prize of clothes,the prize of prize generates so much threads as well as here tFS and msn dior group especially..
speculative intervation like this works as schizoid on this terrain...
 
Whimsicalist, an incomplete understanding of the English language combined with overly-verbose writing does not translate to a comprehensible post. Perhaps you could try to pare it down a bit? From what I can gather, this is an interesting thread. And I'd like to understand it enough to participate. Thanks.
 
well I mean I think there is a look that says 'high end/designer' than one that says 'i shop at A&F and Hollister' there is clearly a difference in the typical look. You can buy a designer look and make it look like you bought it at Hollister but there is still a look that says 'luxury, high end'
 
Whimsicalist said:
I mean to establish such look that is infl by the style cathegories of season..
there is such jurisproduction-dior homme ,raf,"paris club"

Dior Homme by hedi Slimane - the fabric,materials = Komsomoletz of mid 70's

(-) it is minus

aug 2004 me and my friend who works Milan and he is very familiar with dior homme milan store and staff ,so we got same born place...

16h afternoon...40 celsius..we got rendez-vous...

I haven't see him from a year,and he tald me by e mails about his dior homme purchases

I approx the plase of RV...
and from 30 meteres I sow a total STRIP look..white sneakers,slim grey jeans,super fiting shirt(franz ferd -matinee video fitting shirt)..hair sculpted as gan kalirdos do it..


fastly I understand that my frend from Milan is waiting me 30 meters down from this boy..
I am surprised...what a paralax...what a aberatio

My friend was and wasn't in the one and same moment in dior homme in my eyes..

10 meters I so close and I understand the reason of this deception

the reason of this quazi,schizoid Dior-ed figure,person..

it was mentaly handicaped person,walking spectaculary(as I am penchant to elab my tics and paroxismistic walking) in summer vacantion from the chlorazin ,Haloperidol and all the legacy of communistic psychiatry...

I am asking my friend "did you note this"

-yes.he exclaim -"I am observing him already a 15 minutes..and damn me...why i didn't took my dig camera..."(by the way picture I loaded as a fashsophist in the previous format was made by this camera 2 hours after ,but we lost this boy as a yetti in tundra)

is there any necessity to add more theoretic,aesthetic speculations...

the difference is simple..the textures,fabrics (the cut is function of fabric) is working as a principe,as a platonist idea..they are mostly essential for capitalist ,post-modern,consumatorist conditio of cloth as a shopping aim...
but in the same the cloth have it's own phenomenology,sense...

you know the difference when in the muppet theatre the actor plays a punk..with white sabo,flair jeans,long barb and arteficial mohicanoo for the head...but this is because of dictatorship of scene...everything could be everything..so I take eastern situation as schizoid-ed on same principe
eastern is ruled and fortifyed by money,capital..that;s why dior homme runway do not failed to a role of punk in muppet theatre and to schizo looking person or street closhard
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Brilliant.

Also I think Meg is very pretty she looks a bit like Sofia Coppola.
 
A rough guide:

Whimsicalist said:
I mean to establish such a look that is informed by the trends of the season. There is such juxtapostion - Dior Homme, Raf Simons the 'paris club'.

Dior Homme by Hedi Slimane - the fabrics and materials materials remind me of Komsomoletz of the mid 70's. A subculture of youths in the USSR who were influenced by the Beatles and dressed in formal shirts and wore black-plastic rimmed glasses (sim. Yves' signature pair).

In August 2004 me and my friend who works in Milan met up. He is very familiar with Dior Homme and the Milan store and staff. We were born in the same place [or was this meant to be non-literal, as in, 'we start at the same point']

Four O' Clock in the afternoon we go to meet up. I haven't see him from a year, but he's told me about his Dior Homme purchases by e-mail.

I approach the place of the meet-up...and from 30 meteres I saw a total STRIP (the Dior Homme collection by Slimane) look. White sneakers, slim grey jeans, super fiting shirt (the Franz Ferdinand matinee video shirt) and hair sculpted a la Jan Kaliardos.


Quickly, I realise that my frend from Milan is waiting for me 30 meters down the road from this boy...I am surprised - what a paradox what an abberation.

My friend was and wasn't in the one and same moment in Dior Homme in my eyes..

At ten meters I'm close enough to understand the reason for this deception. The reason this quasi-schizoid Dior-clad figure was here was because it was a mentally handicapped person, walking spectaculary (as is my penchant, to elaborate my 'tics' and paroxysmical walking) in summer vacation from the medical drugs and the legacy of neo-Communist psychiatry.

I ask my friend, "Did you notice that guy?"

"Yes!" he exclaimed, "I've been looking at him for 15 minutes now and blow me why didn't I take my digital camera?" (by the way picture I loaded when I was called 'fashsophist' before the software swapover was taken with this camera two hours after, but we lost this boy as a very lost thing)

Is there any need to theoretically speculate any further on the aesthetics?

The difference is simple - the textures and fabrics (the cut is function of fabric) are working as a principle, as a metaphysical [I assume metaphysics to be the idea connotated with Plato here] idea. The textures and fabrics are essential for capitalist, post-modern, consumerist conditioning of clothing as a a 'shopping aim'.

But in the same the clothes there it's own phenomenology (proponented by Edward Husserl, phenomenology's essential doctrine is that the world is not real and that human conciousness defines it, absolute fact does not exist)

You know the difference when in the puppet theatre the actor plays a punk with white sabo, flared-jeans, studs and a fake Moheican on his head but this is because of the staged nature of the scene, everything could be everything. So, I take the Eastern situation as split minded on same principle - Eastern is governed by money, capital, material things, that's why Dior Homme runway does not fail to play a role of punk in puppet theatre and to the schizo looking person on the street
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Fade to Black said:
Brilliant.

Also I think Meg is very pretty she looks a bit like Sofia Coppola.
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I'm pretty sure that isn't Meg in her avatar.
 
I know, I'm just joshin with her. :P

BTW Meg I always wondered what you look like. Same with Lena (Where is Lena nowadays :huh:)
 
Fade to Black said:
I know, I'm just joshin with her. :P

BTW Meg I always wondered what you look like. Same with Lena (Where is Lena nowadays :huh:)
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Meg posted a pic in "Pictures of Us" yesterday.
 
Dior Homme by Hedi Slimane - the fabrics and materials materials remind me of Komsomoletz of the mid 70's. A subculture of youths in the USSR who were influenced by the Beatles and dressed in formal shirts and wore black-plastic rimmed glasses (sim. Yves' signature pair).



Prince ,thanks for your spell
there is some discrepances in what I mean and what you realize,but never mind...

I find for this most important those two

1.Dior homme without fabrics might be compared with this Komsomoletz

2.it is not subculture..
it was govern by the regime...hitlerjungen,is it subculture
 
haha I can't believe I missed you two talking about me! First of all, PoC thanks for that post. It cleared up some confusion even I had. And I'm glad you think I'm pretty AND sofia coppoloa matt :P :lol:
 
i feel like ive stepped into some strange disconnected french film where all these people are talking, and i only catch bits and pieces of it. im sure what whimsicalist has to say is a very intelligent idea (and thanks for the "translation POC") but all i can do is gape at some of the words and try wrap my head around it.

but welcome to THS as well anyway, whimsicalist ~! :flower:

(im starting to wonder if this is how my essays sound to my teachers in japanese??!)
 
a 'designer's' look..??
well, excuses but why should anyone want to look as if coming out of any label's advertising page to start with?
i find 'designer' looks so OLD as in boring and victimised
only enjoy creative mixes of designer's looks with non-designer's looks, its all in the personality, creativity and eccentricity in my book.

on original question: key 'look' points should be adapted from the advertising designer campaign, including accesories, hair, make up etc.. and i think its even more fun when someone can just fake the look mixing high street and flee market/vintage items together

as for the 'poetic' posts, well, why not ..and yes, they do make sense
welcome to tFS Whimsicalist :flower:
 
Whimsicalist said:
is Alex N this selfcentred guy from livejournal
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oh yes now.. and please, kindly avoid off topic 'selfcentered' personal remarks/attacks on any tFS members, will you now Whimsicalist? much appreciated :ninja:
 
Prince ,thanks for your spell
there is some discrepances in what I mean and what you realize,but never mind...
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Sorry! I tried to just change foreign words to their nearest English equivalent but I got a bit confused sometimes...the original is always the best, eh B)
 
nope, faust isn't the only one :smile:


Whimsicalist said:
I hope here only faust knows the meaning of komsomoletz and why i decide to use this highly elaborated metaphore....
KOMSOMOL it is Communistic Youth of Lenin, a little bit like hitlerjungen during war world II
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