MulletProof
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But do we need to shop at Celine in 2025 for the Phoebe’s look when Phoebe Philo (the brand) exists?
But back to the collection, the styling is wild. I always hate the pile-everything-on-top-of-each-other trick. It’s not cool, it’s just messy and a bit show off. But I will give Michael more grace because he has (2) bigs shoes to fill. Hopefully he will find his voice too because this Celine is a bit confusing.
Phoebe Celine era blazers/sartorial based pieces were done by Caruso the Italian menswear tailoring factory that produces tailoring for Ghesquiere's LV women's sartorial blazers, Stefano Pilati YSL, Brioni as well as others. Maybe Hedi changed suppliers in his era?I think Rider would be smart to keep the tailoring and outerwear more in line with Hedi’s since the cut is flawless, better than Phoebe’s since you get the authenticity of menswear which is superior in fabrication and finish than a blazer made in a womenswear factory.
Can’t believe they actually decided to open with that, with the displaced shoulder pad and the blazer completely strained on a side. Did they really think it is a look, even an opening look ?I want to hammer on this again cause it's even worse in pictures..
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like susse said.. this is not Hedi/Phoebe.. it's sooo Menichetti/Michael Kors' Celine, aka. the real, decades-long Celine..
that is baffling to me as well, I actually wouldn't mind if that was a poorly-made, filler piece lost somewhere in the collection, at this point and given the state of fashion, we're all used to turning a blind eye on these things and have the mindset of a garbage man, just sorting through junk until you see something with minimal potential... but it's wild to me that he really looked at it, pushed it to the front of the line and thought with full conviction 'this beautiful creation will be our opening look'.. I want to think it's sloppiness, which is better than being fully aware of what you're looking at and still saying yes, but either way, I think it says a lot on where he's at as a fashion designer.Can’t believe they actually decided to open with that, with the displaced shoulder pad and the blazer completely strained on a side. Did they really think it is a look, even an opening look ?
As a customer I am used to an OCD precision in the tailoring and presentation at Celine, alongside with a very strict POV, and I don’t know what I expected, I was ready for something more nomadic and nonchalant but still immaculate, I just can’t accept the sloppiness.
Immaculate it is not, and this is so shocking to me.
lol i noticed this tooThe livestream is still running.
Thank you, I did not know this - I really loved how Phoebe's tailoring made me feel, because it was always a mix of something structured and something fluid in each piece.Phoebe Celine era blazers/sartorial based pieces were done by Caruso the Italian menswear tailoring factory that produces tailoring for Ghesquiere's LV women's sartorial blazers, Stefano Pilati YSL, Brioni as well as others. Maybe Hedi changed suppliers in his era?
Perhaps it's more about preference of silhouette? Hedi's was more classic archetypal bases (tuxedos, rock attitude blazers but with shorter sleeves and tight armholes, or prince de galles easy blazers a bit 70's cut more to wear with a high waisted jean for a paris mum in her 30's to maybe take her daughter to school).
Phoebe's were probably more challenging for a wider general audience, often having wider shoulders with a more nipped in waist slightly redingote profile for more of a woman who might follow fashion closer.
Just different types of women that appreciate both - Different strokes for different folks!