Christian Dior Haute Couture F/W 2022.23 Paris

[THD96]

This is her most established collection yet. I feel like this time she just sent out what she does best, which is Valentino. This could be the extended version of their Valentino Spring 2015 couture.

That red dress is like her scarlet letter.

After this, she should be at an Italian house. That's her sensuality, that's where she will thrive. And maybe in pair because she needs someone to balance and push her further. Maybe call her friend Frida out of retirement.

 

[CholoChic]

Clothes without energy.

 

[Deleted member 116957]

This looks like a collection the FLDS would love!!

 

[WAVES]

it’s definitely giving Valentino.
there are exquisite pieces and the coats are gorgeous (minus the last one what’s happening in there this is Dior Couture!!!)

still feels dated because it reminds me of when she was part of a duo at Maison Valentino… and that was years ago.

 

[disco54]

All her collections look like period costumes for a Netflix series but with an important distinction her clothes have no soul.

 

[Vitamine W]

Religious and chaste women all across the globe are creaming their panties over this new offering, I bet the influx of oil dollars from shady regimes will peak at Dior this season.
Within that context her best and actually most 'Valentino-ish' collection yet.

 

[FelipeV]

Yass gurl, give us nothing. Again.

Seriously, I wonder is she's working with black magic or has some sort of spell on Bernard Arnault, who once said Dior was his favourite house.

 

[eugenius]

Christ.

Those have got to be the most dullest shades of beige I've seen in couture. Those are the shades we basic Americans use when picking out basic office clothes from basic department stores for our basic, 9-5 office-jobs. I don't expect her to have a sophisticated color palette, but those tones don't add much life to any of those opening looks.

And wtf is that stupid coat w/ the blue squares? Somebody mentioned the movie "Midsommar"...is that the print from the barn?

 

[Deleted member 7575]

Let's be honest, Maria's tenure is the definition of violence against

Christ.

Those have got to be the most dullest shades of beige I've seen in couture. Those are the shades we basic Americans use when picking out basic office clothes from basic department stores for our basic, 9-5 office-jobs. I don't expect her to have a sophisticated color palette, but those tones don't add much life to any of those opening looks.

And wtf is that stupid coat w/ the blue squares? Somebody mentioned the movie "Midsommar"...is that the print from the barn?

women.

You do know that couture clients can order the models in any color they choose? Right? Like, most do.

Only celebrities wear couture "as seen on the runway."

 

[eugenius]

You do know that couture clients can order the models in any color they choose? Right? Like, most do.

Only celebrities wear couture "as seen on the runway."

I’ve been very aware of this since, probably, 2002.

 

[Deleted member 7575]

You may find the clothes to be too conservative or prudish, but they are not plain! They are not "nothing"

These clothes are incredibly rich and dripping in detail. It's easily one of her most opulent collections yet.

Sure, you might think it's ugly or offensive, and maybe it is, but to say it's "nothing?" That makes me wonder if you have bothered to look beyond a quick scan of some thumbnails.

Yes, the set sucks. Yes, the story about the Ukrainian artist and the work hung up along the runway is cheesy. I don't like everything MGC does (I hated that last RTW collection) but I call it like I see it. This collection is different from the others. Others have caught on to this and called it very "Valentino," which I agree with.

I strongly urge a look at the details. The workmanship is breathtaking.

Christian Dior Fall 2022 Couture Fashion Show

Before you write it off and say "It's couture, of course it has beautiful details," go look at Chanel or just click back to some of Raf Simons's collections and you can see that is not always the case. Details, embroideries, fabric manipulations, etc have to be designed.

 

[Deleted member 7575]

I’ve been very aware of this since, probably, 2002.

Oh ok, the way you were going on about the color made it seem like you didn't.

I think she chooses these light, neutral palettes to highlight the workmanship and the details because, as you already know, the actual color ends up being the choice of the client.

 

[CholoChic]

I strongly urge a look at the details. The workmanship is breathtaking.

Christian Dior Fall 2022 Couture Fashion Show

Before you write it off and say "It's couture, of course it has beautiful details," go look at Chanel or just click back to some of Raf Simons's collections and you can see that is not always the case. Details, embroideries, fabric manipulations, etc have to be designed.

I´ve tried to appreciate it, because the artisians always are great, but the details are so boring, repetitive, and repetitive and so tick like industrial made and more suitable for furniture or curtains or carpets. The shoes are like they lost its form. It is obvious that a big house like Dior needs an artis eye to make work the atelier with fantasy and energy. Woman or men but an artist.

 

[VogueDisciple93]

The craftsmanship and detailing is sensational(!!!), I would gladly watch a “making of” this collection, but all that exquisite work was futile and doomed to be forgotten. MGC once again shows that having all the king’s horses and all the king’s mens couldn’t give life to her boring broken ideas.

 

[Bernie Flood]

She needs to move on by the Valentino aesthetics

 

[tricotineacetat]

I wished she'd at least be a bit more experimental with her embellishments or color/fabric choices. That would lend her perfectly acceptable clothes at least a bit of an edge. But when you put these traditional folkloristic handicrafts with a shape as modest as most of these looks, you end up with clothes t

You may find the clothes to be too conservative or prudish, but they are not plain! They are not "nothing"

These clothes are incredibly rich and dripping in detail. It's easily one of her most opulent collections yet.

Sure, you might think it's ugly or offensive, and maybe it is, but to say it's "nothing?" That makes me wonder if you have bothered to look beyond a quick scan of some thumbnails.

Yes, the set sucks. Yes, the story about the Ukrainian artist and the work hung up along the runway is cheesy. I don't like everything MGC does (I hated that last RTW collection) but I call it like I see it. This collection is different from the others. Others have caught on to this and called it very "Valentino," which I agree with.

I strongly urge a look at the details. The workmanship is breathtaking.

Christian Dior Fall 2022 Couture Fashion Show

Before you write it off and say "It's couture, of course it has beautiful details," go look at Chanel or just click back to some of Raf Simons's collections and you can see that is not always the case. Details, embroideries, fabric manipulations, etc have to be designed.

Interesting that you put this collection's embroidery work and crafts-y details in comparison with Raf Simons' couture collections at Dior, because I thought the detail work we're seeing (and that is underlying my point of criticism about her vision for Dior in general) here is lacking in innovation, which might have helped to take silhouettes of this modesty and color choice to another level. The kind of handiwork used to adorn most of these clothes only but convey the reminiscence of folkloric costume that the overall styling of the models already provides.

Sure, Maria Grazia Chiuri and Raf Simons' interests are lightyears apart, but with Simons, I always thought his background as a menswear designer and passion as a contemporary art collector often created an interesting friction with Dior's otherwise conventional feminity and romance that would often result in unexpected fabrications, more abstract decorative appliqués and a somewhat more masculine hand in the cutting of his clothes - Whether or not that is what the woman who buys into Dior is ultimately looking for is a whole other question, but as a point of view, there was a bit more distinctiveness. MGC's point of view trade any possibility of creative challenge in the name of straightforward, calculated commerciality, but judging by the fact that both Dior and Chanel seem to be doing just fine and that people like Gabriela Hearst can thrive in today's fashion industry under such a creative lead, I am starting to think that a designer with a distinct point of view is even valued these days...

 

[Cocteau Stone]

The only thing that really amazed me about this collection is that Maria still has the nerve to wear that patronising shirt with those pants...

Looking back at this after Fendi and Valentino, this came out on top but it still isn't that great. I expressed a similar feeling to their recent cruise collection; great techniques, artisanal craftsmanship and some lush textures with no real vision in the execution. At least give us a nipped waist and padded jacket to have some echo of Dior in this.

She'd honestly be great Fendi though, as long as she worked alongside Sylvia to balance out her stuffiness and inject a few quirks/upsets without it being too much for Maria to handle. The most daring thing she's really done as of late is the push for the bardot/off the shoulder necklines in recent collections.

 

[gazebo]

Let's be honest, Maria's tenure is the definition of violence against women.

Remember, Virginie is the one who gave them black eyes.

 

[Deleted member 7575]

Ya'll moaning and groaning about this because Balenciaga, Valentno, and Fendi were soooo good.

 

[Phuel]

^^^ She’s as unfairly and quickly dismissed as Olivier Rousteing around here LOL

There’s a lot to covet for a certain woman of privilege, wealth and taste with this offering. And if I were a woman— and of that status, I’d be making a long list: The white lace dresses; black lace dresses; pleated dresses with the plunging neckline; and embroidered car coats— all supreme, and every well-seasoned couture clientele can easily make it all her own beyond the gentile, preraphaelite styling presented here. Thank goodness the insufferable, shallow feminist-101 statements on tees are a distant memory, along with the distracting sets. Her keeping it simple, clean and all about the designs is finally showcasing her strength. And if one’s not into a more conservative, pragmatic and still feminine sensibility, then this won’t be your thing, but in no way is it remotely bad/boring/bland. If I were a clientele, I’d wear the aforementioned personal favs with knee-high stiletto boots just to vamp it all up. (For that juvenile yasssss queen cheapness, look no further than her former design partner at VLTN…)