Christian Dior Haute Couture F/W 2023.24 Paris

[jeanclaude]

(nxedge.io)

 

[ozztara]

"Well-made" is the bare minimum when you have the Dior ateliers, but "extremely boring" is MGC's natural way of life.

Real. I appreciate what she does but any counters to criticism of her Dior are bare minimum statements.

 

[Deleted member 7575]

DIVINE.

Absolutely stunning.

 

[Frederic01]

The whole Greco-Roman inspired silhouettes mixed with a sense of austerity reminds me of what Pierpaolo did for his first solo Valentino Haute Couture collection. Some of the pieces are almost identical.

He did it better IMO.


VALENTINO

 

[LadyJunon]

The whole Greco-Roman inspired silhouettes mixed with a sense of austerity reminds me of what Pierpaolo did for his first solo Valentino Haute Couture collection. Some of the pieces are almost identical.

He did it better IMO.


VALENTINO

I really wish that he'd kept elements of that look for Valentino.

That super maximalist 60s/70s/80s Couture look he introduced in 2018 was refreshing at first, but it got tired and dated really quickly.

In all honesty, the main reason for that huge jump in popularity from that point was because it acted as an antithesis to MGC's overly conservative Dior.

Nowadays, Schiaparelli has taken that role and, in my opinion, executes it much better.

 

[FelipeV]

I have the need of a candy or something seasoned after watching this.

 

[FashionFanatico]

Why change a winning formula, even it's a lazy and boring one?

i just made my peace with MGC accepting that her designs are not the ones for me, but will make many other women happy and looking good.

 

[TaylorBinque]

Yes, go girl and if us nothing. I mean, zero expectation and she just rises above it. It's same old story.

 

[MagFan]

Everything is too much summery for Fall Winter collection

 

[yslforever]

Why change a winning formula, even it's a lazy and boring one?

i just made my peace with MGC accepting that her designs are not the ones for me, but will make many other women happy and looking good.

Her formula is being the "white noise" of fashion, inoffensive and somehow comforting enough to appease and put you to sleep, and almost everybody reverts to it once in a while, but nobody can remember the tune.

 

[upzilicious]

 

[FashionFanatico]

Her formula is being the "white noise" of fashion, inoffensive and somehow comforting enough to appease and put you to sleep, and almost everybody reverts to it once in a while, but nobody can remember the tune.

Wow - you summed it up perfectly.
It's not quiet luxury. Her Dior is sleepy luxury!

 

[Phuel]

DIVINE.

Absolutely stunning.

Divine perhaps, but I wouldn’t call it stunning LOL

When French standards of couture are not what they were once anymore— with the collective likes of Julie de Libran/Jacquemus/Charles de Vilmorin representing French fashion and HC, and hilariously showcasing new lows to sink to; or resembling Carnival costumes like Iris’ DIY projects; or Virginie’s insistence on depression, frumpiness, joylessness; or just outright blatantly ripping off greaters, like that Schiapperalli person, It’s not any exaggeration to say Maria Grazia’s HC offering is at least thoughtfully tailored for very privileged women. Some proposals like the lacey things that more resemble moldy fishermen’s nets, and the random studded top, don’t work. But the majority of monochromatic, monastic simplicity that flow and cocoon like wearable oasis are so on the downlow of sensuality, it’s downright intoxicating. The rarified world that will wear these designs will no doubt look and feel seventh heaven. As usual, the casting/styling/presentation remains the bane of her Dior.

 

[LadyJunon]

On the runway her collections tend to look a little boring but on individuals they have a regal vibe to them. These will look nice on royalty, diplomats, stylish government officials and those 1% women that like to have that regal look to them.

Why change a winning formula, even it's a lazy and boring one?

I just made my peace with MGC accepting that her designs are not the ones for me, but will make many other women happy and looking good.

DIVINE.

Absolutely stunning.

Divine perhaps, but I wouldn’t call it stunning LOL

But the majority of monochromatic, monastic simplicity that flow and cocoon like wearable oasis are so on the downlow of sensuality, it’s downright intoxicating. The rarified world that will wear these designs will no doubt look and feel seventh heaven. As usual, the casting/styling/presentation remains the bane of her Dior.

OMG, I think that you four actually cracked the code as to why I don't like MGC's Dior. Besides the weird Bar Jackets, the actual garments themselves are really good. Each garment is cut immaculately and flows perfectly on the body, especially when you look up close. Isolated, they look fresh and pure, almost modernist at times.

My issue with Maria's Dior seems to be absolutely everything else:

• The consistent styling choices make each offering look like Greek/Medieval cosplay rather than expensive, sophisticated Couture. A closed modest court shoe or a heeled boot would really do wonders in elevating her work. Proper jewelry would really help too.
• The rustic walls also play into this weird Greek/Medieval look. A blank white set or a traditional building would suit her collections better.
• The young casting is the most offensive of them all. I seldom complain about models' ages, but having these 16 - 20 year-olds wear these very adult-oriented collection feels very jarring. Clothes like this demand older, more experienced models. Schiaparelli's casting would have made these clothes more immersive.

After 7 years, I've finally made actual peace with this woman now.

 

[Phuel]

^^^ LOL Yes, she’s been steadily improving as a technician and tailor— but no one seems to notice, or care (LOL), because of the meandering, tedious, droning presentations that are consistently the equivalent of visual NyQuil. Thank goodness at least she’s done away with the huge feminism-101 title cards and slogan-tees, and distracting dancers prancing around while the models attempt to walk down the runway.

It’s just marketing strategy to cast these girls— cuz apparently girls equals grrrrrrls to middle-age fashion people desperate to be down with the children. I’ve caught on long ago to look beyond her presentations of :gag:we should all be feminists:gag: while hawking so much expensive rag that defies feminism/sustainability/humanitarianism purposes it’s actually hilarious — and that goes for all of them, not just her. Look at her offering as tailored separates for a woman’s wardrobe and life, and the pieces do really resonate and transcend beyond all the “white noise”.

In another fashion era, I wouldn’t be so generous towards her. But we’re not even in decent fashion times these days; just take a gander at what passes for HC, and enough said. And at her best, her no-nonsense approach to high fashion/haute couture is a “quiet” (really loathe that word now LOL) testament against all the fastfashion trash mistaken as high fashion.

 

[fenty]

She has no creative bone in her body, but I wonder if she uses templates of the same silhouettes when creating sketches?

Also I don't get how people can sit in this thread and flat out lie that this is decent I cant !!

 

[Deleted member 7575]

STUN-NING

 

[tricotineacetat]

I feel the majority of the daywear would be perfectly fine in the context of luxury pret-a-porter but it begs the question whether or not there is a necessity to do a minimal, unstructured double-face blazer or coat as an Haute Couture garment or if existing 'stealth wealth' brands from Max Mara's atelier line to Jil Sander, Hermès or The Row don't already serve this kind of product in a believably luxe level for the kind of customer who wants their luxury to be discreet and classical as that.

 

[perhydrol]

I like this collection for what it's supposed to do: it's just full of easy to understand, pretty, comfortable, and extremely well-made pieces. I just wish there had been a wider range of silhouettes, as this slim, long line gets predictable very quickly. However, I feel like there is a colossal difference between Dior and Chanel now. Chiuri works pretty well with flou and her clothes are actually flattering, whereas Viard just keeps on pushing bulky, stiff looks. I think I've finally accepted the fact that MGC is gonna stay at Dior, and that I shouldn't care too much about this brand.

 

[Deleted member 7575]

I feel the majority of the daywear would be perfectly fine in the context of luxury pret-a-porter but it begs the question whether or not there is a necessity to do a minimal, unstructured double-face blazer or coat as an Haute Couture garment or if existing 'stealth wealth' brands from Max Mara's atelier line to Jil Sander, Hermès or The Row don't already serve this kind of product in a believably luxe level for the kind of customer who wants their luxury to be discreet and classical as that.

There was a time when almost every couture house offered a minimal, unstructured double-face blazer or coat.

I don't understand why it's so hard to fathom that Dior offer one now.