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Christian Dior Pre-Fall 2015 Tokyo

Really strong collection! The use of those sequin turtlenecks was brilliant. They gave an awesome sense of modernity - especially when you could see it underneath the coats and dresses - but a little late 60's vintage flavour too. The models looked so powerful, intimidating even, like they were fabulous replicants. I just love the way that with every collection, he manages to, with one hand, stay connected with the Dior code that he so successfully established, and with the other add a new and exciting note.
 
Hmmm, i don't know. The thing that i hate with Raf Simons is the fact that his clothes have no relation with the body. Ok Dior is about the Corolle line, the feminity, the flowers, the bar suit...etc. But Dior is above all about the body of a woman and how to showcase it. Those silhouettes are just unflattering.

I see some Chanel HC, some Vuitton by Ghesquiere. The boots reminds me of the one Pierre Hardy did for Balenciaga for FW2004. There's a bit of Comme des Garcons. The sequined tops...Tom Ford did it for spring 2015 (even if it's nothing new).
The styling is quite bad but some pieces are very good.
Anyway, i wonder if the very conservative clientele of Dior will buy it.
 
"Clothes for real life", really? Who's life? Because I can't imagine many women wanting to like that. These clothes don't even look comfortable let alone flattering. The idea of mixing vintage and futuristic is interesting but it is horrendously executed. Raf isn't a bad designer, but he just came to dior and it's like what the heck happened? Never was a perfect fit
 
He tried so hard to hide the fact that this was a blatant copy of the Miu Miu F/W 13-14 collection, that all the looks became overly stylized and bulky.
Some of the textures are really intriguing and dare I say, beautiful, but he used them on Ghesquieres silhouettes so, a missed opportunity.
I think, Galliano being appointed as creative director at Margiela might have messed with his head a bit, so he tried to create this monumental/A.Wang-like staging with the music and huge catwalk. And the quirky(ugly) makeup+hair don't help at all.
The colors are all over the place and the proportions are awkward. And not just even Prada-awkward; just bad-awkward.
That Miu Miu collection was effortless and that is whats missing here.
This was a heavy, dull and overworked collection.
Curious to see what will be his next move for the next season, when all the eyes will be on Galliano.
 
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Extremely intriguing collection and a definitive departure from the most recent seasons which were so typically pretty and overtly feminine. Kudos to Raf from doing something completely different this time!

Although it isn't one of his strongest collections, I see a great potential in some of these pieces, particularly the knits, the dresses and the shorter coats / jackets. Knowing their clientele though and what has been on offer before I struggle to see how those long coats and dresses (those first ten looks and the last few looks of the collection) will appeal.

It will be interesting to see how this will sell, given that a great deal of these pieces are the polar opposite of what has been in the boutiques since Raf started (bright colours, embellishment, extreme femininity).
 
I noticed the line is very obvious
i hope to enjoy the video
 
all I have to say:
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I guess I'm in the minority here but as I keep looking at the collection, I enjoy it more. I agree that there are MBMJ and Celine references for sure but still this is better than the horror of his SS15 collection further illustrated by Nicole Kidman's awful cover for Elle US Jan 2015. :(
 
I agree, I def see that he's trying, and it's more outside of his comfort zone than what he normally does. Still nowhere near Galliano magnitude of 'out there' but he's trying, so I can't hold that against him. And another area that I see improvement is the cast - there is a little bit more diversity than usual for a Dior-under-Raf show, isn't there? Now I don't know if it's because this is in Tokyo and not Paris, but that's an improvement.


overall I do agree that it's pretty bleak, but I also see hope for future collections.
 
Is it me, or does the tailoring look and overall construction pretty bad? I wish I can add an image w/ a big ole arrow and a caption reading "Right here" to illustrate my point, but there's something about the shoulders and sleeves, and many other parts, that look really off to me. I'm not an expert in high-fashion dressmaking skills, so what do I know? But thats not anything I recall seeing from neither the previous Dior designers, nor from Raf's previous work at Jil or his old menswear line. Feeling..unsure.
 
Is it me, or does the tailoring look and overall construction pretty bad? I wish I can add an image w/ a big ole arrow and a caption reading "Right here" to illustrate my point, but there's something about the shoulders and sleeves, and many other parts, that look really off to me. I'm not an expert in high-fashion dressmaking skills, so what do I know? But thats not anything I recall seeing from neither the previous Dior designers, nor from Raf's previous work at Jil or his old menswear line. Feeling..unsure.

That seems to be a problem with nearly every collection by Raf for dior. Someone is always pointing out poor construction and tailoring. I agree with you about it not happening with previous designers or at Jil sander, so no one's sure where why this is happening. This collection seems to be one of the better tailored ones though, he's certainly had worse(and in couture of all places)
 
I find those zips really over done now, yes very miu miu like others have said

what he can do is make really beautiful pretty dresses he's really good at it but i don't see them here

it's not as horrific as s/s15 though, the sequins are good and i like the shoes (and snow!)
 
Is it me, or does the tailoring look and overall construction pretty bad? I wish I can add an image w/ a big ole arrow and a caption reading "Right here" to illustrate my point, but there's something about the shoulders and sleeves, and many other parts, that look really off to me. I'm not an expert in high-fashion dressmaking skills, so what do I know? But thats not anything I recall seeing from neither the previous Dior designers, nor from Raf's previous work at Jil or his old menswear line. Feeling..unsure.
I'm with you, I'm feeling the same. There is something wrong/missing.
 
He lost me completely with this one, as with all of his other shows recently. It's a shame he has been unable to continue on that extremely high level of taste, sophistication and MODERNITY his first few haute couture collections had.

Raf used to be the leader of the pack, but now we see clear references to other designers and also some really tired trends that have been around for many seasons now (the mirrored check patterns and zippers, hello?)

At least he dropped the sneakers.
 
I adore Raf, and I still think he is an amazing designer so the obvious faults in fit and execution must have happened somewhere along the line - maybe he does not do all the fittings himself? Or maybe he did not do them at Jil Sander but now does them at Dior? In any case, something is off here, and although it makes me incredibly sad to admit this, he might not be a good fit at Dior after all. This collection, above all else, does not seem desirable from a pure 'product' point of view, and it does not offer escape, a dream l(ike Galliano did before him), which makes it hard to understand what they want to achieve, or what the direction is.
 
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I thought it was a better collection than most of Raf's rtw collections. But yes this is more militaristic, cold, and heartless (there's nothing wrong with that)! However a lot of the looks are the same thing.

This collection looks like some of the elitist people in the government of the Capital from the Hunger Games
 
Christian Dior is a (slimline) winner at Tokyo’s national sumo wrestling arena

Jess Cartner-Morley
The Guardian, Friday 12 December 2014 12.02 GMT


Raf Simons’s futuristic collection forms the centre of the house’s charm offensive in Japan – and there’s not a kimono in sight

Fashion’s most exquisite and exclusive creations are often called “fairytale” dresses. There is a good reason for this: storytelling and myth-making are how brands conjure up their halo effect of desirability.

What has changed in the 68 years since Christian Dior founded his atelier is that the story now needs to reach customers living many thousands of miles from the Avenue Montaigne. And so, in pursuit of the pot of gold at the end of the luxury rainbow, Christian Dior travelled from Paris to Tokyo to stage a catwalk show for 1,200 guests at Japan’s national sumo wrestling arena on Thursday night, billed as a celebration of Dior’s historic links with Japan.

But Raf Simons, the 46-year-old Belgian designer who has been at the helm of Dior for two years, put an unexpected twist in the familiar Dior-in-Japan plot with the collection he unveiled in Tokyo. There is no place in Simons’s vision of Dior for cherry blossom or kimonos. In fact, Simons told the Guardian during an interview at his hotel the day before the show, “There is no literal Japanese reference in this collection at all. To do a Japanese collection in Japan... that just isn’t interesting to me. We have moved on from that. The world is not so insular. Women in Japan look to European fashion, and I am fascinated by Japanese fashion. It is that tension that is interesting to me.”

Instead, Simons took Tokyo to stand for a “futuristic, urban environment. When I think about Japan, I think about the fashion activity on the street. The mix of people, the urban energy. A life that happens partly outside. Blade Runner is a strong reference for this collection.”

A Raf Simons collection is never simple to unravel, but you can guarantee a great deal of thought in every detail; it is not too much of a stretch to suppose the black sequins glued to models’ eyelids were a reference to the idea of “capillary dilation” in Ridley Scott’s film – a test, ultimately, of humanity.

The Dior element underpinning this collection was the bar, the exaggerated hip which Christian Dior himself used on a jacket, here translated into waxed, zipped-up coats. The central message which Simons wants the Tokyo event to project is, he said, “to communicate that there is a lot of reality to this brand. That it is not only about clothes for special occasions, that it can be connected to real life – to the weather.” In leather boots and calf-length coats, the Dior models were dressed for the snowstorm that rained down on the catwalk; the sequin polo-necks they wore underneath leant catwalk-worthy glamour. Fair Isle knits were given a graphic, Manga reworking; the Lady Dior bag was supersized – the days when all it needed to hold was lipstick are long gone.

The show was staged on an enormous square catwalk, with an audience seated all around and models criss-crossing the space in all directions, at a clip. As a format for people-watching, it called to mind not the salons of the Avenue Montaigne but the Shibuya crossing in Tokyo, an intersection at which the throng of pedestrians traversing in all directions when the traffic stops has become a tourist spectacle and featured in another Tokyo film, Lost In Translation. The phenomenon of Shibuya crossing – urban life as awesome spectacle – fits with a collection which Simons described as “utilitarian glamour”.

The choice of the Kokugikan Sumo stadium served a dual purpose. It physically locates the brand in a venue which references not only Japan’s traditions, but its future: the stadium will host the boxing contests in the 2020 Olympics. But for Simons, the essential appeal was that the cavernous space could be made to feel almost roofless. “Ideally I would have loved to have this show happen outside, in the street,” he said. “This was the closest we could get, an abstraction of that.”

Christian Dior himself was a pioneer of his time, adds Simons. “He was moving over borders, exploring different places in the world.” The couturier’s fascination with a Japanese aesthetic began as a child when his mother, Madeleine – influenced, like many fashionable Parisiennes at the turn of the 20th century, by the oriental pavilions at the Universal Exposition – had the ground floor of the family home decorated with Japanese-style frescoes of white egrets against a blue sky. When Christian became a couturier, Japanese motifs, including cherry blossom embroidery, were a recurring theme. In 1955, French Vogue ran a feature on Dior’s Japanese influences, highlighting a black evening gown with an obi-style belt. That year, dancers from the Azuma Kabuki troupe attended the Paris Dior haute couture show.

The catwalk show, along with a multimedia exhibition about the history of Dior, forms the centrepiece of a Dior charm offensive in Japan. The exhibition takes care to foreground historic ties between Dior and Japan, such as the three bridal outfits the house made for the wedding in 1959 of Princess Michiko; Simone Noir, a senior employee of the Paris haute couture studio, accompanied the dresses to Tokyo. Noir reported back to Paris that when the princess put on the dress, “she had a glowing complexion, scarlet lips, gleaming hair held in a headband. She looked like the heroine of a fairytale.”

theguardian
 
I'm still not feeling him at Dior, I don't feel he's doing that great their.
 

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