Controversial Opinions on Fashion

[svpernova]

I agree with you Naomi simply can’t give anymore compared to the new girls. And yes she should’ve been cancelled a long time ago since she’s a horrid person.
Another controversial take, I don’t get the hype around her editorials. She never seemed as great to me as the other big 6 models.

 

[yslforever]

Stephano Pilati was the best designer for YSL since Gucci took-over...
Hedi's womenswear there was abysmal and his menswear was just a prolongation of his Dior Homme.
Anthony is getting some of the idea, but totally forgets about the emancipation and working women part.

 

[proseccotabis]

Stephano Pilati was the best designer for YSL since Gucci took-over...
Hedi's womenswear there was abysmal and his menswear was just a prolongation of his Dior Homme.
Anthony is getting some of the idea, but totally forgets about the emancipation and working women part.

Been searching for a comment like this on tfs.
Pilati is a fantastic designer and I wonder why the big brands haven’t snatched him? Is it his wish or they don’t see him as a good CD candidate for some reason?
I loved his work for Zegna too

 

[Kanzai]

Martin Margiela is kinda overrated ( You can kill me for saying this LMFAO ), but the fact that lots of IG posts about his birthdays and something like untouchable GOAT were said on the comment sections. Meanwhile his friend Jean Paul Gaultier and his peer Helmut Lang get crumbs in terms of buzz.

 

[blueorchid]

When it comes to fashion photography: I hate Tim Walker's twee ~surreal~ photoshoots and I don't miss seeing them.

 

[Cocteau Stone]

When it comes to fashion photography: I hate Tim Walker's twee ~surreal~ photoshoots and I don't miss seeing them.

They were fun at first, but the hammy-ness of them all became so saccharine and corny because he did it too bloody much. His overseas location shoots still stand the test of time though in my opinion. Very Travel Almanac and “Great Fur Caravan” by Avedon.

Despised his Pirelli Calendar. f*cking awful.

 

[blueorchid]

Okay, one more, seeing too many Paolo Roversi editorials in a row annoys me. He’s best used sparingly. His style can really grate on me. I’ve thought this for as long as I’ve paid attention to fashion magazines.

 

[tigerrouge]

The current Paolo Roversi cover of UK Vogue made me ask myself - didn't he used to have an editorial in nearly every issue of Vogue Italia, which I never noticed at the time, because I was so taken up with whatever Meisel was doing? That could have been Roversi's best work, but the era is just a blank in my mind.

I vaguely remember that sometimes the images were printed on special paper.

 

[Avonlea]

Roversi's work lost its magic when he stopped using the 8x10 polaroid. Digital killed so many beautiful techniques.

 

[Melancholybaby]

I think Roversi's strongest work for VI was the bi-annual haute couture ones- something about his style of photography and the clothes just works really well. His monthly editorials I remember ranging from ok to good- quite a few of them were single brand advertorials and not very long, which didn't feel very memorable or special at the time.

 

[JohannesL]

Okay, where are the sexy high fashion brands that embrace boobs, curves and legs nowadays? I am nostalgic for that look.

 

[hamburgers]

Lotta is the spiritual successor of Carine who was the spiritual successor of CCD

She does not nearly have the print legacy of the other two but her styling (runway and personal) really resonates with this generation’s view of how they want to express their sexuality and sensibilities with fashion.

 

[blueorchid]

The current Paolo Roversi cover of UK Vogue made me ask myself - didn't he used to have an editorial in nearly every issue of Vogue Italia, which I never noticed at the time, because I was so taken up with whatever Meisel was doing?

Him and Ellen von Unwerth

(Also controversial, I have a soft spot for Ellen von Unwerth lol)

 

[Kanzai]

Okay, where are the sexy high fashion brands that embrace boobs, curves and legs nowadays? I am nostalgic for that look.

Ask Pieter Mulier guy, it's supposed to be Alaia things ( without the vulgarity ofc ). I think Dolce&Gabbana can offer that ( they are Azzedine fans at the end of the day ) but their collections are unstable and inconsistent in terms of women's manifesto, sometime faux sexiness, sometime homeless chic, st cheap ‘payday loan office’ vibe AKA COol GirLs, st Sicily widows,...

 

[IsabelMarantBoy]

Okay, where are the sexy high fashion brands that embrace boobs, curves and legs nowadays? I am nostalgic for that look.

I miss it too! I think a lot of it started to come around towards the latter part of the Aughts, reading fashion reviews from 2009 - 2011, people like Sarah Mower or Tim Blanks would lament when brands were using all the same thin girls, but then get excited when brands would switch and start using girls with curves and boobs (I'm thinking specifically of the Prada F/W 2010 review), and curvier girls like Eniko Mihalik and Ashley Smith were more in demand. Heck even Kate Upton was booking Vogue Italia!

Versace was someone you could always count on, even with her more covered up collections like F/W 2005 you still got lots of cleavage and legs. It's so odd how people are almost afraid of being sexy these days when it comes to fashion. I blame the rise of designers like Phoebe Philo and her clan in the 2010's for killing sex and making intellectual fashion the mainstay. There are some designers starting to push against it, but please give us some sex appeal!

 

[yslforever]

Been searching for a comment like this on tfs.
Pilati is a fantastic designer and I wonder why the big brands haven’t snatched him? Is it his wish or they don’t see him as a good CD candidate for some reason?
I loved his work for Zegna too

Well he wasn’t the most sober and after Galliano’s debacle, brands were veering away from this kind of behavior, at least for 5 /6 years

 

[proseccotabis]

I miss it too! I think a lot of it started to come around towards the latter part of the Aughts, reading fashion reviews from 2009 - 2011, people like Sarah Mower or Tim Blanks would lament when brands were using all the same thin girls, but then get excited when brands would switch and start using girls with curves and boobs (I'm thinking specifically of the Prada F/W 2010 review), and curvier girls like Eniko Mihalik and Ashley Smith were more in demand. Heck even Kate Upton was booking Vogue Italia!

Versace was someone you could always count on, even with her more covered up collections like F/W 2005 you still got lots of cleavage and legs. It's so odd how people are almost afraid of being sexy these days when it comes to fashion. I blame the rise of designers like Phoebe Philo and her clan in the 2010's for killing sex and making intellectual fashion the mainstay. There are some designers starting to push against it, but please give us some sex appeal!

I completely agree with your very valid point, @IsabelMarantBoy.
Being sexy nowadays is either considered a completely non fashion clique thing and / or trashy, or something thats totally non existent. What we are presented with nowadays is very sanitized and sterilized and this touches casting choices too in my opinion. Having Paloma or Jill ( who has lost a lot of weight recently...) at shows is pretentious if they are not going ahead with the plus size polemic moving forward . I also see various media outlets occasionally going ahead with the 'heroin chic is back' sort of articles which doesnt help... when did it put a hard veto on any plus size in fashion as of recently? a rhetorical question

 

[BalkaniStaCouture]

Fashion is in weird state. I still very much appreciate Miuccia Prada, Hedi Slimane, Anthony Vaccarello (even though he is amazing copy-cat) and honestly do buy a lot od Prada, Celine Homme and Saint Laurent as a guy. Also I know many of you didn’t like Sabato but I found him quite okay, in terms of clothes. Did bought some cardigans and some mini bags. Didn’t like Kim Jones even though I was buying a lot of their bags that he designed. I just cannot imagine JW Anderson in Dior Homme.

I do like Daniel Roseberry and Pieter Mulier for ladies.

I do buy Jil Sander too. Don’t know what will happen with Celine, Gucci and Jil next.

 

[JohannesL]

I completely agree with your very valid point, @IsabelMarantBoy.
Being sexy nowadays is either considered a completely non fashion clique thing and / or trashy, or something thats totally non existent. What we are presented with nowadays is very sanitized and sterilized and this touches casting choices too in my opinion. Having Paloma or Jill ( who has lost a lot of weight recently...) at shows is pretentious if they are not going ahead with the plus size polemic moving forward . I also see various media outlets occasionally going ahead with the 'heroin chic is back' sort of articles which doesnt help... when did it put a hard veto on any plus size in fashion as of recently? a rhetorical question

I hate the hypocrisy of embracing women but only for the kind of women fashion elites consider tasteful. What is wrong with showing off your inches of skin when you are proud of your body? The woman that fashion people trashed them as vulgar and tacky in the past few years is not far away from the woman who makes Versace, Cavalli, and TF's Gucci household names that fashion people seem to be okay with.

 

[svpernova]

If fashion truly cared about women in a feminist way they wouldn’t have set impossible standards for young women to maintain and they wouldn’t have created an environment filled with abuse (Elite’s John Casablancas). But let’s note that men have the most important positions in this industry.
It’s also very damaging to women’s anatomy and body type since most of them have hips and busts. Does anyone know how this standard of the 5’11 woman with 34 hip inches came to be? Do they want to save the expensive fabric?