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I remember the whole Bella Hadid and Dior "controversy" back in 2022-2023, when she was apparently "replaced" by an Israeli model. People were so silly to believe that, and the whole social media was filled with antisemitic comments towards this model. If they'd done a quick Google search, they would've found out that Bella's contract with Dior as brand ambassador had ended, and that May Tager had only been hired for a winter campaign.
People were calling for a boycott of Dior and even throwing their products away, which is just stupid.
They also wanted to boycott Dior because Bella Hadid made a kick gesture towards the UAE flag and tried to cancel her. It's a shame that topics like cultural appropriation and body types are seen as controversial these days. People are too soft. That’s why no one has the guts to challenge the norms just like they had done before.
 
Do you guys remember Karl talking about feminists? :lol: That would be impossible today

And women still went to the Chanel stores and made no fuss about it… If JWA or any other designer said what he said (that feminists are ugly, among other things) they would probably be fired in less than 1 sec.
karl got push back in his days as well ..... lets not do he past away in the golden 80´s LOL it was 2019 ... RIP karl i still miss you.

I think its not black and white regarding brands owners view on life & politics etc some things fall under reasonable difference of an opinion while others things fall under not acceptable as well,we cannot uncouple certain ways of thinking lead to certain behaviors and companies owners do found political entities etc which then affect people lives and even your own without you knowing. (because who has the time to reach all this )

imagine if no big brand or entity nothing gets push back i think we would be in a worse state globally. its no difference with food health & safety etc

we mights as well blindly continue shopping ourself in our happy bubble, while all your liberties are slowly taken away.

worst thing society can do is criticizing the few (sure some are virtue signaling ) that do speak up for some form of justice because it disturbs the happy few.
 
If D&G don’t believe in gay couples adopting babies, to me that doesn’t make their products less desirable.
And if for another customer it creates a negative association, they are equally free to feel a decrease in desire for D&G products. It takes one person, maximum, to publish an article claiming someone got cancelled. It takes many people actively changing their behavior to have an impact on his business.

Also... how desirable and how unique were the products (or the image they allow one to buy into) to begin with?

That’s kind of ridiculous.
I'm kinda ridic
 
I admired Karl for his honesty. He said what he thought. He was rich, privileged, and sometimes out of touch but wasn't ashamed to admit that. Today's celebrities and public figures should take note before once again lecturing the masses. Gauche caviar still doing great.
 
karl got push back in his days as well ..... lets not do he past away in the golden 80´s LOL it was 2019 ... RIP karl i still miss you.
I think <<wokism>> as we know it today started around 2018… Karl didn’t give much interviews since 2016/7 more or less (and they were less polemical by that time). People did comment about it but it was never cancellation or boycotts (Islam thing aside).

Do you remember what happen to D&G just because they made a Chinese model eat pasta with chopsticks?

I would personally never do it, because I find it unnecessary and silly and it’s not my kind of thing, but omg, all that fuss? I think we live in a crazy world.

The worst thing is that I’m sure they chose a Chinese model to sell more in China, and that it was not a genuine decision but a very studied one, which is actually the bad part of it. Brands choosing people that they would probably never choose just to sell more in certain areas.

Same for the Bella Hadid thing that someone mentioned above…

I do think brands have a responsibility, but we got to a point where the frenzy is just insane.

Same for the shows… the quotas there have for inclusion are everything but inclusive to me. They do that because they know that if they don’t, they will be canceled.

Imagine Ralph Lauren saying that Europe is a mafia… would that make me boycott him or not shopping from his stores? Certainly not. Who cares?

It’s sad. People are so shortsighted.
 
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D&G are different.
Tbh, first Italian in fashion don’t have a good reputation to start and there was something very patronizing about the chopsticks video.

I think Karl got away with many things because he was good. Because people loved him and also because most of the most outrageous things he said were in French. And French people got his humor and sarcasm and also sometimes it was just purely ridiculous that you just had to laugh.

I remember when he said that Russian men were ugly. It was so ridiculous.

And also, at some point, it became clear that he said things for shock value.

And above all, people were used to him. He has been on TV and media since the 70’s almost non stop until his death.

I think today, designers are just afraid that one thing could be taken out of context and create a controversy.
If we take the D&G controversy about the babies. They were asked about it and it’s their opinion. « Synthetic babies » was a terrible term but they don’t want children and it’s probably for the best.

We talk about a decrease in quality. Maybe there’s a decrease in journalism too. Where are the ones who makes intelligent interviews?
I only read System Magazine for interesting interviews but there was a time when an interview on Interview Magazine became quotable.

And maybe in those trouble times, there should be publications that could elevate the debate, talk about interesting things. Designers could talk about their work and life.

Now they get asked about inclusivity, sustainability. Like who cares!?
 
Karl knew how to use media to his advantage. He was in the game for a long time so he knew how to harness it in some way or another to gain traction and to not just keep him as a designer on people’s mind, but to also push Chanel into a space that was very present in pop culture. Like his views on Adele, feminism, the thing he had with Baptiste, the Quran verses on those dresses (they look “pretty” to him) etc. His wit and sense of humour never hindered him to the max.

D&G tried to do the same when they had fallen out of love and perception in the zeitgeist. But they also stood their ground on views that were rather questionable. Backtracking on LGBTQI+ representation and parenting, notable racial descrimination. Really moments that were a PR nightmare that they didn’t really amend very well at the time. Karl happily backtracked. Not to be a sympathiser for him, but he took it in good grace and because of that he was never too serious. Others that attempted to do the same weren’t like that.

Of course for most there’s a social cultural difference and intellectual colloquialisms that differ from the American-westernised world. That’s a rather difficult territory to understand. But it’s happened to a lot of prominent designers in many ways with how they’ve communicated. If it’s with self awareness, it’s a rather humorous view. If it’s done with an agenda, it becomes alarming.
 
I think <<wokism>> as we know it today started around 2018… Karl didn’t give much interviews since 2016/7 more or less (and they were less polemical by that time). People did comment about it but it was never cancellation or boycotts (Islam thing aside).

Do you remember what happen to D&G just because they made a Chinese model eat pasta with chopsticks?

I would personally never do it, because I find it unnecessary and silly and it’s not my kind of thing, but omg, all that fuss? I think we live in a crazy world.

The worst thing is that I’m sure they chose a Chinese model to sell more in China, and that it was not a genuine decision but a very studied one, which is actually the bad part of it. Brands choosing people that they would probably never choose just to sell more in certain areas.

Same for the Bella Hadid thing that someone mentioned above…

I do think brands have a responsibility, but we got to a point where the frenzy is just insane.

Same for the shows… the quotas there have for inclusion are everything but inclusive to me. They do that because they know that if they don’t, they will be canceled.

Imagine Ralph Lauren saying that Europe is a mafia… would that make me boycott him or not shopping from his stores? Certainly not. Who cares?

It’s sad. People are so short sighted.
Do you remember what happen to D&G just because they made a Chinese model eat pasta with chopsticks?

Yes but i am not chinese so it's not fair for me to decide how culturally incentive it was and then again one of the dolce guys put more fuel to the fire to say chinese people are dumb and many more things.

The video was not smart to say the least in my opinion as you mentioned as well.

Italy has lots of issues with all foreigners in general the lookdown on : french english chinese people of color etc not just fashion.
then north italy looks down on south italy because they are darker closer to arab-north africa and more provincial according the north.

I think short sighted is to disregard it just because we might not be offended means others that have the right as its their culture or skin color should feel the same.

I do believe nobody gets a free pass in life to live it without being offended but that not exclude repercussions for the offender is always off the table.

I find more sad unpaid workers or marginalized communities not getting credit or profit from there craft etc
We cant be sad if D&G or billion euro companies gets heat for a stupid idea of add sorry no, other way around this companies protect their intellectual properties even color like tiffany blue or hermes orange and designs and logos etc
 

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How ‘Dopamine Culture’ Rewired Fashion​

The rise of social media algorithms that endlessly select and serve up digital content — whatever triggers a dopamine buzz in our brains — has rewired the luxury fashion industry. Is feeding the feed good for business?
A phone records the runway at the Ynessuelves fashion show during Mercedes Benz Fashion Week Madrid at Ifema on February 21, 2025 in Madrid, Spain.

The fashion system has been reshaped by the rise of social media algorithms. (Juan Naharro Gimenez/Getty Images)

By
Marc Bain
23 July 2025

Earlier this month, with the fashion world awaiting Matthieu Blazy’s September debut for Chanel, the French luxury house staged its latest couture show in Paris, an event less noteworthy for the clothes — another collection signed by the design studio — than the spectacle.

Chanel again paraded its products through the stately Grand Palais, which it packed with a global roster of stars such as Lorde, Romy Mars, Sofia Coppola, Kirsten Dunst, Xin Zhilei, Wang Yibo, Penélope Cruz and Ramata-Toulaye Sy, providing fodder for dozens of posts on Instagram that generated millions of views, “likes” and comments.

Even Chanel isn’t immune from the pressure to keep posting.

“A product is basically content until someone buys it,” said Thom Bettridge, editor-in-chief of i-D. “And the second someone buys it, it then becomes content again, in the sense that you’re posting what you’re wearing … I just feel like, in a way, these types of things get consumed so quickly.”




For decades now, technology has been driving an acceleration in the speed at which cultural products like fashion are created and consumed, but things reached a frenzied new pace with the arrival of algorithmically curated social-media feeds serving up a miscellany of videos, photos, memes and more distributed according to what gets people to like, comment or just pause for a few seconds.

Attention, in this context, is currency, and what captures attention is often anything that triggers the release of dopamine, the neurotransmitter instrumental in pleasure, reward and motivation that gives its name to “dopamine scrolling.” Over time, it creates an addictive feedback loop.

“There are brain studies showing that digital media activate the same reward pathway as drugs and alcohol,” said Anna Lembke, professor and medical director of addiction medicine at Stanford University’s School of Medicine and author of “Dopamine Nation.”

A scene from Chanel's July 2025 couture show.
An Instagram-ready moment at Chanel’s latest couture show. (Chanel)
The consequences are greater than just hours wasted online. The music historian and critic Ted Gioia, whose argument that we’re in a period of cultural decline received attention from outlets such as The Atlantic earlier this year, has described this state of affairs as “dopamine culture,” writing in a 2024 essay that art and entertainment are being supplanted by mere distraction. In Gioia’s view, algorithmic feeds are atomising our collective attention and rewiring industries such as music, movies, sports and journalism, so that albums are less important than snippets of tracks on TikTok, films are losing ground to short-form video and so on.

Gioia’s essay doesn’t mention fashion, but it easily could have. The fashion system has mutated under these same pressures over the past decade and more, giving rise to changes that can be seen in how people shop, the transformation of fashion media, the acceleration of the trend cycle and the pressure on brands of all sizes to keep up.

“What’s happening today is all these algorithms tapped into our addictive behaviour, and as any other industry, inevitably fashion and culture have been consumed like entertainment — always in search of the combination of the new, the exclusive, the unique, the now,” said creative director and photographer Ezra Petronio.

Dopamine Fashion​

The view that dopamine culture is strangling artistry and sidelining complexity is controversial. In fashion, there are, after all, still designers producing exciting, thought-provoking work, such as Glenn Martens, whose first couture show for Maison Margiela earlier this month won raves. And although much of the new fashion media that gets views consists of hot takes or news and images with little context, there are also voices like Luke Maegher, who goes by Haute Le Mode, trying to offer deeper insights.

“I’m inclined to be a little bit sceptical of it as a holistic theory,” said Bettridge. “I don’t think the dopamine culture thing is bullsh*t; I think that it’s talking about something that’s very true. But it’s maybe not looking at the ways in which there’s actually still culture happening within those things that seem like slop.”




That said, dopamine culture has already rewired the fashion system in fundamental ways: If major fashion companies long ago shifted their core focus from designing clothes to selling an aspirational image, today they are increasingly in the business of producing quick-hit entertainment to be scrolled on your phone.

Luxury brands now maintain a near-constant cycle of seasonal and interim shows in photogenic locales to stay present in the minds of their customers, many of whom are never physically present but see only glimpses as pictures and video pop up in their social feeds. Trends that once lasted years, becoming movements or at least styles that stuck around, have given way to “cores” and microtrends like “cottagecore” and “mob wife” that might only last a matter of weeks on TikTok as shoppers demand a constant stream of newness to peruse and purchase before quickly moving on to the next thing.

A chart shows the way dopamine cultured has rewired different parts of the fashion system such as runway shows, marketing, trends, shopping and more.

Petronio said in the past brands had time to devise a strong campaign that would need to encapsulate their values and last an entire season. Today, they must release new imagery and products constantly, and the bigger the brand and the more touchpoints it has, the harder it is to maintain a coherent brand image and identity.

“It’s just a nonstop thing, and I feel that unfortunately sometimes it is a little bit desperate,” he said.

This environment exerts a great deal of pressure on all kinds of businesses, which face real risks if they can’t keep up. Laura Baker, co-founder of the multi-brand boutique Essx in New York, said she would like to take a short break from feeding the store’s social channels, but it doesn’t feel like an option right now. The shop, which does most of its sales in-store rather than online, has to constantly be holding events and telling people about them, or working with influencers and dreaming up other posts to stay at the top of people’s minds and keep business flowing. Baker loves the store and its customers, but it’s exhausting.

“If we go quiet for even a day people are like, ‘Are you guys ok?’” Baker said. “The consumers are on such a high of what we’re giving them. They want those activations. They want that marketing. They want that content. They want to see the product first. If we’re not keeping up with them, they’re just going to go to someone else.”

Recent years have seen a rise in runway stunts seemingly engineered to capture attention online, producing a number of viral moments like Coperni’s spray-on dress, applied live to a nearly nude Bella Hadid, and Schiaparelli’s faux taxidermy gowns featuring fake animal pelts, heads included. At Paris Fashion Week this past March, wunderkind Dutch designer Duran Lantink’s show received more attention for the prosthetic breasts he sent down the runway on a male model than the clothing. The look was inspired by the torsos of action figures.

A model presents a creation by Duran Lantink for the Womenswear Ready-to-wear Fall-Winter 2025/2026 collection as part of the Paris Fashion Week, in Paris on March 9, 2025. (Photo by Bertrand GUAY / AFP)
The attention-grabbing prosthetic breasts at Duran Lantink's show. (Bertrand Guay/AFP)
“Fashion is meant to move people, so it was interesting to see how it sparked reactions and different interpretations,” Lantink said in an emailed statement.




At their most effective, these moments can be better for driving chatter on the internet than a front row of paid ambassadors.

Is It Good for Business?​

As luxury suffers a sharp downturn in demand, many brands find themselves struggling to justify to customers why their products are worth their extraordinary costs amid soaring prices and accumulating reports of declining quality. At the same time, they continue spending huge sums on generating attention through stunts and spectacles whose impact they have raced to quantify with metrics like earned media value. It’s uncertain, however, how much these momentary digital interactions translate to sales. Petronio called the connection “nebulous.”

Many shoppers are increasingly left feeling like what they’re paying for isn’t top-tier craftsmanship and creativity but marketing, even as more of them keep hitting the “like” button.

“Brands are beginning to understand that this drive to generate content that captures that momentary engagement that is the ‘like’ … it’s a losing battle because the engagement that you’re getting is so superficial and so momentary and so promiscuous that it’s not, in the long run, what you believe should be important, which is deeper engagement that generates loyalty and ultimately advocacy,” said Robert Triefus, chief executive of Stone Island and a former Gucci executive.

There are indications that dopamine culture may be peaking. The churn of microtrends has started to slow, while consumers are seeking out longer-form content that doesn’t immediately yield a quick high and requires more sustained attention or interaction. TikTok has been pushing creators to produce longer videos for the past couple years, and data shows videos that exceed one minute tend to perform better on the platform. Some research has found longer videos outperform on YouTube as well. Triefus has noticed fashion brands putting energy into platforms such as Reddit and Substack.

Gioia has written about the trend, stating that any dopamine trigger becomes less effective over time (known as anhedonia) and audiences may finally be rebelling. He’s predicted that a new Romanticism characterised by a rejection of technology and celebration of human feeling could soon emerge.

The question is whether customers and the brands targeting them can truly break free of their dopamine addiction. There will always be those groups that push back against prevailing currents, but they don’t always become the mainstream. Rebecca Rom-Frank, a senior strategist at trend-forecasting firm WGSN, said there has been an uptick in people seeking out longer-form content again, but she described that group as older “traditionalists.”

“More chronically online audiences tend to crave more chaotic content, which I would classify as TikTok videos, memes, brain-rot videos like really crazy, fast-paced cartoons or images that are just very chaotic,” she said.

Dopamine culture may simply be a reality of today’s fashion market, in which any brand hoping to achieve or maintain a level of scale is locked in a competition for attention, and not just with other brands but with news, memes and everything else. But if fashion labels reorient themselves too much around providing a fleeting high that fades in an instant, they shouldn’t expect customers to hang around once the buzz is gone.
 
Michael Kors, I'm dropping my fashion hot take...
A controversial opinion? I think quiet luxury is kind of boring.
Yep, All those plain beige outfits that cost a fortune? They look like hospital uniforms for rich people.
My fashion should give me personality, structure and a special kind of attitude.
 
Do you remember what happen to D&G just because they made a Chinese model eat pasta with chopsticks?

Yes but i am not chinese so it's not fair for me to decide how culturally incentive it was and then again one of the dolce guys put more fuel to the fire to say chinese people are dumb and many more things.

The video was not smart to say the least in my opinion as you mentioned as well.

Italy has lots of issues with all foreigners in general the lookdown on : french english chinese people of color etc not just fashion.
then north italy looks down on south italy because they are darker closer to arab-north africa and more provincial according the north.

I think short sighted is to disregard it just because we might not be offended means others that have the right as its their culture or skin color should feel the same.

I do believe nobody gets a free pass in life to live it without being offended but that not exclude repercussions for the offender is always off the table.

I find more sad unpaid workers or marginalized communities not getting credit or profit from there craft etc
We cant be sad if D&G or billion euro companies gets heat for a stupid idea of add sorry no, other way around this companies protect their intellectual properties even color like tiffany blue or hermes orange and designs and logos etc
I don’t know, I usually believe people that get easily offended are not very smart. And sometimes people feel they have to defend everything they are just for that fact.

And I also feel everything comes across as racist today. I don’t see racism in that video, just something absurd, not funny, not interesting and quite unnecessary. But I don’t think there’s hate, discrimination or anything.
I even think they wanted to be funny and cute. :lol: The ridiculousness when you want to play international and inclusive when you actually don’t have an international mind and you are not inclusive at all. And I don’t think you should be forced to be so. But then, they want to play the game…

Another controversial opinion is that I don’t like people that project themselves in their likings. This kind of people end up saying that there should be more models like Kate Moss just because they are not the most good looking and tall people in the room. I feel many people talk from insecurities and don’t realize that life is not a beauty contest. They need someone not traditionally beautiful to make them feel better… I feel that’s sort of sad.
 
I don't know if the DG video was racist, but it was incredibly stupid. It's hard to believe that the concept passed through multiple people and no one thought it was a bad idea to portray your most important clients as uncultured and clumsy. This could work with Europeans but not with individuals who are well-known for their national pride and respect for their cultural identity. That's why brands of this size that cater to an international audience need to have advisers from different countries.
 
...That's why brands of this size that cater to an international audience need to have advisers from different countries.
If you are speaking to the world, you need people from the world. You don't represent a whole with a part, else you'll see partly on the global scale.
Big brands collaborate with local designers, stylists, or influencers to make sure the collections match local tastes and values. Most importantly, to accommodate cultural differences. I stand with you on this...
 
I don't know if the DG video was racist, but it was incredibly stupid. It's hard to believe that the concept passed through multiple people and no one thought it was a bad idea to portray your most important clients as uncultured and clumsy. This could work with Europeans but not with individuals who are well-known for their national pride and respect for their cultural identity. That's why brands of this size that cater to an international audience need to have advisers from different countries.
You know, at brands like Dolce it’s not multiple people. It’s their marketing director and them. But even if it was multiple people, they all say yes if the idea comes from their boss :lol:
 
I don’t know, I usually believe people that get easily offended are not very smart. And sometimes people feel they have to defend everything they are just for that fact.

And I also feel everything comes across as racist today. I don’t see racism in that video, just something absurd, not funny, not interesting and quite unnecessary. But I don’t think there’s hate, discrimination or anything.
I even think they wanted to be funny and cute. :lol: The ridiculousness when you want to play international and inclusive when you actually don’t have an international mind and you are not inclusive at all. And I don’t think you should be forced to be so. But then, they want to play the game…

Another controversial opinion is that I don’t like people that project themselves in their likings. This kind of people end up saying that there should be more models like Kate Moss just because they are not the most good looking and tall people in the room. I feel many people talk from insecurities and don’t realize that life is not a beauty contest. They need someone not traditionally beautiful to make them feel better… I feel that’s sort of sad.
But :
Nobody forced D&G to have stores in China, when you want the big spending power from a country you will have to take their point of view on any subject in account period!

Especially if it comes across as not positive, intent might be good but if the result is seen as not positive you have to be grown up as a company and adjust and move on instead stefano went full blast insulting the chinese people online, if you come from a good place you don't go nuclear on people if you get not positive feedback

as a company you have obligation towards your clients who ever they are, if not don't ask for their money in their own country or use their culture.

intelligence is also knowing that you don't know enough to be right.
there is no pandemic of opposers , its actually oppose society is increasingly becoming docile and complicit and dumb.

i don't think D&G or any big company needs more people defending their missteps , because i can confirm you they don't care.
 
But :
Nobody forced D&G to have stores in China, when you want the big spending power from a country you will have to take their point of view on any subject in account period!

Especially if it comes across as not positive, intent might be good but if the result is seen as not positive you have to be grown up as a company and adjust and move on instead stefano went full blast insulting the chinese people online, if you come from a good place you don't go nuclear on people if you get not positive feedback

as a company you have obligation towards your clients who ever they are, if not don't ask for their money in their own country or use their culture.

intelligence is also knowing that you don't know enough to be right.
there is no pandemic of opposers , its actually oppose society is increasingly becoming docile and complicit and dumb.

i don't think D&G or any big company needs more people defending their missteps , because i can confirm you they don't care.
With this I totally agree, 100%.

I think all the circus they do to sell more in China or in Asia in general is tasteless and ridiculous. And not just them but all the brands.
 
I don't know if the DG video was racist, but it was incredibly stupid. It's hard to believe that the concept passed through multiple people and no one thought it was a bad idea to portray your most important clients as uncultured and clumsy. This could work with Europeans but not with individuals who are well-known for their national pride and respect for their cultural identity. That's why brands of this size that cater to an international audience need to have advisers from different countries.
As @Creative said, there weren’t many people in the room in the first place lol.

And another thing. As most controversies comes from the US, sometimes it does also feel like American imperialism has had so much impact that American expect the world or at least Europe to function on their agenda, with their codes and their sensibilities.

And even behind that idea of « multiple people in the room » is a very « Corporate America ». It’s something that I always see when there are controversies.
Because corporatism is very different in Europe, even more in fashion, any creative director would by-pass a suggestion made by the marketing team.
When you do a campaign, it’s about the designer, his stylist and Art Director. Ok, sometimes the head of communication.

When it’s a brand where the founder is the CD, nobody will talk. It’s their campaign and concept. And they rightfully apologized in that clip, as they should.

I will never not advocate for more diversity in offices (I don’t know if that said diversity would actually enjoy working in fashion and living in Italy but that’s another thing) and more voices being allowed to share opinion in studios (fashion is not a democracy) but some controversies we have seen this past decade were really puzzling to me.
 

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