Demi-Couture

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  1. Crying Diamonds

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    A term often used to describe the critically acclaimed work of Olivier Theyskens' work at Rochas, this thread is dedicated to the pret-a-porter that has the fine qualities and hyper-expensive price-tag of Haute Couture.


    Let's start off with a bit of Ghesquiere ;)

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  2. Crimson C.C

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    haha awesome, lets get some price tags!
     
  3. gius

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    isn't it demi couture when a piece from a pret-a-porter collection can also be custom-made? (ie. to a person's measurements)



    i think for balenciaga s/s '09 it was pret-a-porter but the fabrics could only be made by hand.. so it became couture.
     
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  5. jennifer~

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    Rodarte perhaps fit the profile, and this text gives some guidelines as well...

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    And Zang Toi is, apparently, another demi-couture designer...

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  7. Scott

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    but isn't there a difference between demi and semi? i mean when it has p-a-p approach wouldn't that be deemed semi whereas demi was more about the intrinsic rawness of handwork?

    i'd consider labels like MMM,Gustavo Lins,Rodarte and the like demi.
     
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  8. Street_a_Licious

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    i generally would believe that McQueen pieces can be customized and custom made. idk, but something about his line just gives me that feeling.

    meanwhile, Ghesquiere at Balenciaga seems to simply play with the most expensive techniques and fabrics. just for.... "fun's" sake.
     
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    Balenciaga FW08
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  10. ilaughead

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    I think there's an article on demi-couture (specifically Olivier at Rochas) in Vogue US July 2006. I can't find it online, though.
     
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    tbh, that looks and is priced like RTW....
     
  12. gius

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    yeah :p 3,000 is just P-A-P.. .


    here are some others by balenciaga

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  13. Crying Diamonds

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    I need some of those white Storm Trooper leggings.
     
  14. gius

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    i haven't heard of 'semi' being used but i would agree that a design that can be made-to-measure or customized doesn't equal to calling it demi-couture.. (i read a few jackets by balenciaga could be ordered this way). there really has to be that aspect of the hand, and time...

    if we look at Dries van Noten a lot of his past pieces have so much work done to it.. hand-painting and embroidery. but he outsources mainly, no? maybe it has to be a small atelier, the designer and his assistants. that's why it becomes so expensive
     
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    hm? isn't 3000 "normal" for a runway P-A-P cocktail dress? especially from Balenciaga? a simple cashmere cardigan from Vuitton costs 1300 already....
     
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    As said in Vogue Spain, this coat from the fall 08 collection of YSL costs 41.000€.
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    Are we judging if outfits are demi-couture based solely on their price tag? Or is craftsmanship part of the process? What are the factors that separate a genuine couture piece from the masses of clothes?

    A side note, I am getting sick of how the word "couture" is freely used when it pertains to fashion by the media.
     
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  18. jennifer~

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    Perhaps Scott has coined a new term; remember where it started, generations from now. :p I think the followers of this thread would find Holly Fulton's biography (and work, of course) interesting and helpful in defining this... missing link. She doesn't describe herself as a demi-couturière but I think she describes some of the processes, while maintaining a separation from the term that gives her more authenticity, ie., never trust the punk (for example) who calls himself such, before the label has been applied by others; then gripe about it.

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  19. TomFordforGucci

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    That's exactly what I thought of when I read the title of this thread, wish we had the accompanying article.

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  20. Inaya

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    sadly, this is indeed true. it's not unusual at all for a brand like Balenciaga's p-a-p prices to be upwards of $2k per garment.
     

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