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Dior Menswear S/S 2026 Paris

Those prices are just plain dumb.

Imagine what the sellable merch will then look like - Likely as banal as it can get. Which means, perfect for a customer with a horizon of style that barely exceeds that pf Comme des Garcons PLAY. 😅
 
Those prices are just plain dumb.

Imagine what the sellable merch will then look like - Likely as banal as it can get. Which means, perfect for a customer with a horizon of style that barely exceeds that pf Comme des Garcons PLAY. 😅
best I can do is an embroidered logotype sweatshirt in grey for $1000 euros.
 
The gilet in look #21 is 35.000€ / $41,000 USD
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The military coats (look 45 and 46) are allegedly 200.000€ / $235,000 USD
They have introduced that concept of Couture for men during the Kim Jones days (even if Hedi almost touched on this).
I’m not shocked by the prices because they are certainly Couture.

It’s pity that the prices for the less spectacular stuff didn’t leaked. I wouldn’t mind knowing the prices of the knitted capes.

It’s almost given today: you an embroidery= sky high prices.

Victoire de Castellane did the jewelry too!
 
They have introduced that concept of Couture for men during the Kim Jones days (even if Hedi almost touched on this).
I’m not shocked by the prices because they are certainly Couture.

It’s pity that the prices for the less spectacular stuff didn’t leaked. I wouldn’t mind knowing the prices of the knitted capes.

It’s almost given today: you an embroidery= sky high prices.

Victoire de Castellane did the jewelry too!

If I remember correctly, this fully Lesage-beaded jacket by Hedi for SS'07 was actually in the 'affordable' range of around 5000€, keeping in mind the jacket itself was also fully-canvassed, therefor rivaling the term Demi-Couture in nothing but name. And might I add - Those pieces were actually produced for the shops and not kept for VIP clients for personal orders, only.

In hindsight, I should have starved myself a little back then because similar garments only got impossible to afford…

But out of curiosity since you do seem to be very enthusiastic about it - Do you think JWA’s design skills are up the alley of his predecessors? And more importantly, do you see a diversity of men (also straight ones) enticed by his vision other than the easiest access points (sneakers, sportswear, bags)?

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If I remember correctly, this fully Lesage-beaded jacket by Hedi for SS'07 was actually in the 'affordable' range of around 5000€, keeping in mind the jacket itself was also fully-canvassed, therefor rivaling the term Demi-Couture in nothing but name. And might I add - Those pieces were actually produced for the shops and not kept for VIP clients for personal orders, only.

In hindsight, I should have starved myself a little back then because similar garments only got impossible to afford…

But out of curiosity since you do seem to be very enthusiastic about it - Do you think JWA’s design skills are up the alley of his predecessors? And more importantly, do you see a diversity of men (also straight ones) enticed by his vision other than the easiest access points (sneakers, sportswear, bags)?

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5000€ in 2007 and in menswear was the equivalent to the prices we are getting today. The more expensive pieces from Hedi at Céline or Saint Laurent exceeded the 10K.

About the 2 questions…
I really see menswear from afar. Of course curiosity and my surroundings. I think his menswear could connect with men. He will sell clothes because Dior has a reputation and already a clientele. It would be ridiculous to expect a kind of cult following from a 10 billion brand though.
I see it in my entourage. The men who used to wear Hedi stuff in the 2000’s have mostly gone into brands like Cifonelli, Tom Ford, Husbands Paris… Those who travels to Asia got their suits made there. They can buy their casual stuff from anywhere.
I don’t know if luxury brands are the places to go to build a wardrobe anymore, unless you have a connection with the CD’s style.
For me, JWA’s work will be to create more balance at Dior to not make the commercial stuff looks like the poor kid of the elevated runway collections like in the Kim Jones days. And it’s not a question of quality because from what I saw, the quality was maintained at Dior.

About the predecessors…
Are his designs skills up to the alley of his predecessors? No. But it was never a question for me. That’s why I’m excited for his womenswear.
I wasn’t a fan of him prior to Loewe and he really revealed himself there. He is an intelligent designer in a sense that he is not a virtuose of cut but he has ideas and they are always executed perfectly.
I don’t think making a bar suit or a corolle dress will be complicated for him.
Maybe he is superior to Raf…

But I have to say that I’m enthusiastic about a lot of the changes coming. It’s not reserved to JWA. Maybe my enthusiasm will die in 2 years . And for JWA, maybe because I’m not a Dior person, I’m more willing to appreciate his changes.
 
The gilet in look #21 is 35.000€ / $41,000 USD
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The military coats (look 45 and 46) are allegedly 200.000€ / $235,000 USD
This is totally cheap for Dior.
Remember Kim Jones' (wonderful) debut with the white shirt embroidered with 2.000 feathers during 900 hours by 15 artisans at Lemarié.
Its price was 600.000 € in 2018.

Maybe this is a sign of Dior re-thinking about their strategy and going back to more affordable prices.

Or maybe it is just another debut stunt to keep people talking 🤭
 
It's corporate fashion plain and simple tldr.

McDonald's supremacy ✊

In this case it is very evident, they don't even hide it.
What we can consider the opening interview of this new Dior era was given by Delphine Arnault on the 2nd of June to BoF.
Jonathan even speaks occasionally of "Delphine and I".

There will be commercial feedbacks that Jonathan will have to take in consideration, for future collections.
Right now, for instance, the impact (positive or negative) that have looks as different as Sabrina Carpenter's or Rihanna's might shape the next October collection.

I can imagine also that part of what we have seen so far as Jonathan's Dior were "kind invitations" of LVMH, like re-imagining the supersuccessful Book Tote or having K.Mbappé as muse.

Corporations, by essence, don't like creativity, because creativity is on the chaos side, and corporations are on the control side.
But they need to do as if they liked creativity.

For a corporation, creativity is anything unexpected that increases their benefits and cuts their expenses.

A supertiny bag, where even your mobile phone doesn't fit, at the price of a medium sized bag, is a good example of corporate creativity.

That is why it is more and more difficult to be ravished by corporate fashion: everything is so calculated.
 
I asked my SA about the blue knitwear of look 61 and the price is 11000 CNY so in Europe would be about 1100~1300 EUR(?)

Much lower than expected as I remember similar runway piece from SS24 is north of 3000 EUR (one with Dior for my real friends)
 
I loved it.

I can see what he's doing, with extending the wearability, the casual nature of the RTW collections. This will leave more room for drama in the couture collections, and if the Menswear is more 'lax in this manner I am very excited to see how he channels that same feeling of ease with womenswear. A great collection, strong debut and everyone surely has been buzzing.

Loved the shorts, the bags, and those loafers.
The bag charms I seen, that look like a tailor's measuring tape too? HELLA CUTE.
 
The bag charms I seen, that look like a tailor's measuring tape too? HELLA CUTE.
Me too, they make me think he's really going down a Prada universe lifestyle route - 'normal wardrobe' intellectualised, but bought for what the integrity of the name stands for. All those famous lovely robot, seasonal concept keychains and charms Prada does so well.
It came to my attention yesterday that there is an independent but relatively known British designer of Ellen Poppy who does insect, spider, butterfly, dragonfly, small animal charms out of tailor/workmans tools like tailors tape, thread, thread scissors, buttons.
 
Those prices are just plain dumb.

Imagine what the sellable merch will then look like - Likely as banal as it can get. Which means, perfect for a customer with a horizon of style that barely exceeds that pf Comme des Garcons PLAY. 😅

Before I started working in fashion, I would idealize that anyone that’s that wealthy, that well-connected in the industry, and loves fashion that much-- had to be an individual, stylish and intelligent. Then having worked for and met people in the industry whom are wealthy, well-connected and love fashion, most if not all, are neither stylish nor intelligent, and hardly an individual. And that’s the customer for this Dior swindle. Because if I had that kind of money to spend on a knitted cape (LMFAO— a knitted cape; looking like a 5yo wearing a Ralph Lauren Home Collection cable-knit shawl), I’d offer a generous commission to an experienced, skilled knitter before even consider giving a fraction of that pricepoint to this corporation. If there is a customer that's willing to pay that kind of price for all this, he deserves the swindle. Dior should charge even more, frankly.

(I once thought that Helmut was so wrong for shredding his archive into a new purpose for his career as an artist. But now he’s so right: It’s just material. Customize anything just the way that suits you best. It’s just fashion. No ons is anywhere more of an individual, more stylish, and absolutely nowhere more intelligent, if he’s able to afford these hilariously prices. Quite the opposite, actually.)
 
This is the 200k coat. It doesn't seem to have embroidery or other embellishments. Maybe it's made with gold thread?


vogue

Did anyone notice how difficult it looks to walk in the sneakers/loafers from the outfit above? They seem very unstable
 
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anyone who has ever tried on a JW garment in-store, knows exactly what this will look like, feel like, wear like irl. it's like it's not even made for a homo sapiens' body.

as the kids say, #IYKYK
 
This is the 200k coat. It doesn't seem to have embroidery or other embellishments. Maybe it's made with gold thread?


vogue

Did anyone notice how difficult it looks to walk in the sneakers/loafers from the outfit above? They seem very unstable
I guess Loïc Prigent’s reportage answer your question. It will definitely be made to order.

I wonder if Dior is not going to have appointments for men and women during Couture week in the salons.

I can see people who are going to be married go for this. If you can afford a Junon dress, you can afford that coat.
 

I enjoyed Loïc's video, thanks for posting it.

Definitely, for me, the.most interesting aspects were how Jonathan translated the couture dresses into the mens.
The Delft cargos are already iconic.

On the other hand, there is something I didn't fully understand, concerning the 200k coat.
Why spend 3000 hours embroidering by hand a full pied-de-poule coat?
Embroidery is an ornamental technique that you apply usually to a part of the garment.
If you want a silver thread in the totality of the tissue, like in a brocade, why don't you go directly for a jacquard loom?
It sounds unnecessarily fastidious, without adding anything special beyond the labouriousness itself.
 
I enjoyed Loïc's video, thanks for posting it.

Definitely, for me, the.most interesting aspects were how Jonathan translated the couture dresses into the mens.
The Delft cargos are already iconic.

On the other hand, there is something I didn't fully understand, concerning the 200k coat.
Why spend 3000 hours embroidering by hand a full pied-de-poule coat?
Embroidery is an ornamental technique that you apply usually to a part of the garment.
If you want a silver thread in the totality of the tissue, like in a brocade, why don't you go directly for a jacquard loom?
It sounds unnecessarily fastidious, without adding anything special beyond the labouriousness itself.
It’s like saying, if you are gonna die, then jump from the Eiffel Tower and you get there faster, no?

I think there’s something beautiful in the process as well. And the margin they get with these pieces is really important. Some people, actually, will get it just because of the price, and it’s a nice excuse to justify it.
 
It’s like saying, if you are gonna die, then jump from the Eiffel Tower and you get there faster, no?

Franz Reichelt 😍

Don't get me wrong, I love craftmanship like everybody here...
One of my favorite moments in the video is actually when Loïc says to the Première d'Atelier: This coat is amazing... looks "thermocollé", right?
And the she goes, absolutely scared by the word: no, no, no, it is all in the construction! 🤣

But for the coat, I don't see the point of the total embroidery. There are no irregularities and you are fully covering the piece.

To me it is like being a king, living in a castle, and hiring under exclusivity a fisherman, a baker and a cook to have every afternoon a thuna sandwich.
 
All the laborious work for a coat that doesn't even fit well. Maybe I am old fashioned, but complicated and time consuming techniques should be used for really special pieces. There is this tendency nowadays to throw in a generic looking garment and cover it in expensive embroidery just for the sake of it.
 

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