Elle Macpherson Q&A
Elle Macpherson
Raphael Mazzucco
SI.com: You're the still the record-holder with four SI Swimsuit Issue covers (1986-88, 1994). Do you break out the champagne each year that the record remains yours, '72 Dolphins-style?
EM: Oh, no! I don't even think about it! Actually, I'm surprised to hear I still am. I just know that I had an amazing amount of support from the people at
Sports Illustrated who thought highly enough of whatever I represented to put me on the cover. I'm so grateful, you know? I was never someone who was particularly fashion-aware or fashionable. I represented a girl who was sort of the All-Australian, the All-American girl -- healthy and approachable.
Sports Illustrated really honored that. I never, ever, ever expected any of the covers I received.
SI.com: What's the craziest thing you were asked to do for a shoot?
EM: I was working with Paulina Porizkova, who was my roommate at the time -- we lived together on West 20th Street between Ninth and Tenth in New York. Paulina and I go to Australia together, and she's so amazingly gorgeous, she's already been on the cover. I always felt like the ugly sister, you know? That's where my head was -- don't forget I was eighteen years old. We do this shot, and she's in a beautiful bikini, dancing around the fire, and I had all this body painting done, like an Aboriginal warrior. I was very masculine, because my body's very sporty, and she was this very feminine figure. It made for a fantastic picture --
but, I got up at 2 o'clock in the morning to get this weird body painting done, with ochre, and I couldn't move an inch. It was a
nightmare. Later, there would be things with animals, and a lot of sea lions -- there was always some added element to my shots. I'd get in there and go, "OK, I'll do that one!" I usually didn't mind doing the things that the other people didn't really like. They'd say, "She'll do it -- she's the gullible one, the Australian savage. She'll do it!"
SI.com: Any embarrassing moments?
E.M.: When I first started, we did our own hair and makeup. We'd go with our own little makeup boxes, and at three o'clock in the morning we'd get up. I was never really good at that. I'm a surfer chick from Australia -- nothing glam. I didn't know how to curl my eyelashes. There was one year -- I think it might have been in Tahiti -- where I sprayed Sun-In in my hair. I had sort of light-blonde hair, but I thought I'd be more interesting if I hennaed it -- made it really dark -- so I'd have dark eyes and dark hair. Then I decided that maybe it would be good to have some sun-streaks in it, but I'd never been to a hairdresser in my life. So I sprayed Sun-In in my hair, and it went bright carrot orange! I have orange hair in my pictures -- if you go back and look. Hydrogen peroxide on hennaed hair -- do not do it.
SI.com: Tell us about some of the most beautiful places you went with SI.
E.M.: I went back to Australia and saw parts of my own country that I would never have seen had I not been working with [original Swimsuit editor] Julie Campbell and
Sports Illustrated. They took me to The Pinnacles and places that were just phenomenally beautiful. We would go to
mental places, just crazy places that you wouldn't go to for regular fashion shoots. You'd go to Tahiti for one particular flower that grew there, and you'd be photographed with that one flower. You were photographed with aspects of countries that weren't just blue waters and white sands, but you saw aspects of countries -- landscapes -- in the pictures. It was as much a travelogue as it was about the beach and the sun. All over Australia, Tahiti -- which I loved; Thailand was amazing. That's my favorite cover, the black leather bathing suit [Thailand Fling -- Feb. 15, 1988]. I just love the photograph.
SI.com: Any inside dirt on the reunion shoot you did for this year's issue?
E.M.: I was shocked that they asked me, and I said no originally. I just sort of felt like, you know, it's maybe not appropriate. But it was a really sweet, relaxed atmosphere. I didn't feel any sort of competition -- of course, half of us have been around for so long we'd be immune to that sort of thing. Rebecca Romijn and I have known each other for a long time. It was great to see Rebecca. Rachel [Hunter], it was really nice to see -- we talked about raising children. She's from New Zealand, and I've known Rachel since I went to her wedding. I remember when Rod [Stewart] proposed to her at a
Sports Illustrated shoot -- or maybe just before one -- and she came to it and was like, "I can't believe Rod proposed!" She was 19, I think. I'd married very young, so we talked about that. I hadn't met Carolyn Murphy before, and I was really interested in meeting her because she surfs -- and I'm a surfer at heart. It was very chilled.
SI.com: The answer to this may disappoint millions, but is this your swan song on our pages?
E.M.: I live one day at a time. I make my decisions according to how I feel on that day. What I have learned in life is that all sorts of things that I thought would make me happy -- like, oh, if I just get on the cover of
Sports Illustrated I'll be happy, or, oh, if I just lose ten pounds I'll be happy, or if I just buy this dress I'll be happy, or if I just meet this man I'll be happy -- do not make me happy (laughs). They're nice, and they're interesting, but I find fulfillment in other ways. The day that I understood that, it was such a relief that I wasn't only as good as the last magazine cover. I stand firm in who I am, and what I do may change day to day. I just got older, babe. And very joyful in my life. The intellectual world fascinates me, the creative world fascinates me, the spiritual world fascinates me -- I meditate an hour a day. Not so much the physical things.
SI.com: You became a successful actress overnight. How did that happen?
E.M.: I never really considered myself to have an acting career. I was lucky enough to have a few years to move from New York to LA, and I was taking a break from modeling and I made something like ten movies back to back.
SI.com: Most people would consider that a pretty legitimate acting career.
E.M.: I don't. I did it just because it was fun, and I had the capacity to work with some really brilliant people. I worked with Alec Baldwin and Anthony Hopkins -- who was
such a gentleman -- in
The Edge. I worked with Barbra Streisand in
The Mirror Has Two Faces. I worked with George Clooney in
Batman. I did several episodes of
Friends. And a few other more underground things -- a TV series with Kate Capshaw which was called
It's A Girl Thing. One thing I've realized as I've gotten older -- I'm 42 -- is that when I was trying to act, ten or fifteen years ago, I didn't have the well of experience, or emotional sobriety, to actually portray anything of great depth. I just didn't have it in me. I hadn't lived that life. Today, if I was given half the opportunity, I would be able to bring so much more color to it, just because I've lived more. I think that's why actors actually get better as they get older. I didn't have any self-awareness or clarity, and I certainly don't think I was very good at observing others. I was so obsessed with my own fears and insecurity and whatever I was feeling at the time, I didn't have time to observe others! As soon as I got pregnant, I realized I was not going to pursue an acting career because it would be at the expense of being a completely present parent, and I didn't want to have my children living as gypsies, going from one film set to another. I really decided to focus on raising my children.
SI.com: So you've transitioned from being "The Body" to being "The Mommy" -- or, "The Mummy," as the case may be.
E.M.: I have two sons, Aurelius Cy, he's turning three in February, and Arpad Flynn, he's turning eight. The thing that is most important to me is parenting. Responsible, loving, nurturing, supportive parenting. We live in London and my eldest son goes to school there. We don't have homes all over the world, as people might think. Flynn goes to an all-boys school, and I take him and I pick him up every day. He's very un-fond of the press, and I have an incredibly strict policy about my children being photographed -- by paparazzi specifically -- unless they're prepared for a shoot where there's a real reason for me doing it and for them being involved. The everyday paparazzi that waits outside of the house, if they get anywhere near Flynn, they get a kicked in the shins! [My sons] have been brought up knowing that their mother is a public figure, but we do not talk about fashion, we do not talk about beauty, we do not talk about fame. Basically, they're not brought up to believe that fame is anything.
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