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mmm...yah...!...doesn't exactly sound like a genius...Originally posted by banana@Jul 6th, 2004 - 9:06 pm
I don't know about movies but there is a book called Michael Moore is a fat stupid white man. I think it's by the same guy who keeps hacking his website so I don't really think it's any good.
Of course! But people should already know that. It bothers me that some people only listen if it comes from the mouth of a celebrity rather than educating themselves. All the hate bothers me too... nobody wants to listen to any centre views because it's not left wing yet I doubt most people would want to give up their luxuries to live in the ideal socialist state.
How bout I spend some of it on you? I'll get you a ticket to see the film since you so adamantly stated that you wont cough up the $5 yourself on "principle."
Of course! But people should already know that. It bothers me that some people only listen if it comes from the mouth of a celebrity rather than educating themselves. [/b][/quote]
This movie educates just as well as the news if not better. I doubt anyone will change thier political views because a celebrity says something.
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Not like a movie in the theater.. it's only stuff on the web. [/b][/quote]Originally posted by luna+Jul 6th, 2004 - 11:07 pm--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (luna @ Jul 6th, 2004 - 11:07 pm)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'>
what movies?...
what are the sources...?...Originally posted by softgrey+Jul 6th, 2004 - 9:14 pm--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (softgrey @ Jul 6th, 2004 - 9:14 pm)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'>
what movies?...
Not like a movie in the theater.. it's only stuff on the web.
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what news source?
Originally posted by LolitaLuxe@Jul 7th, 2004 - 9:17 am
what are the sources...?...
being anti-bush does not make one anti-american...
but you know that already...
what news source?
unfortunately, a lot of people do not already know that...and IMO movies like this may inspire or provoke these people to educate themselves...
that is the question my dear softgrey, that is the question...Originally posted by softgrey@Jul 6th, 2004 - 11:12 pm
and i couldn't agree more captain jack...now what are we going to do about it?...
I was referring more to the gaggle of celebrities of celebrities who are supporting him or who have suddenly jumped on the anti-bush (not Susan Sarandon or Sean Penn because they've always been speaking out against Bush). I mean where were all these people even a year ago when their support really mattered? I always knew that Bush was lying about the war but I also knew a LOT of people who thought that the war was necessary at the time. Does it really take a movie to explain the obvious to people? What does THAT say about American culture more than anything? And what about the the millions of Americans living at the poverty level who can't even afford the $12 to see it at the their local megaplex theatre? If this movie is so educational as everyone says then it is, shouldn't it be subsidized for the large percentage of the American poplulation that has no voice and suffers most from Bush's actions?Originally posted by softgrey@Jul 6th, 2004 - 11:12 pm
when did michael moore graduate from liberal indie film-maker to 'celebrity'...he's this big, heavy dorky guy...not exactly everyone's aspiration...i don't think anyone is blindly following him...it's just refreshing to hear another point of view in the media...
and i couldn't agree more captain jack...now what are we going to do about it?...
Sure, but don't make arrogant speaches about the goverment telling lies if there are lies in your movie (talking about his oscar acceptance speach). I think you can agree that if Michael Moore's books and movies were presented for acedemic review he'd be ripped to shreds. Yet he is interviewed on the news more often than respected acedemics in that field who could also have something intelligent to say.
How bout I spend some of it on you? I'll get you a ticket to see the film since you so adamantly stated that you wont cough up the $5 yourself on "principle."
Don't worry about me MJ, I can afford my own ticket. Plus I've been against Bush since he was the Govenor of Texas and I'm not even American. Sell your Stella bags and take a bunch of people from Harlem or the Bronx and then I will shut up. [/b][/quote]
. I love how people who aren't from New York love to talk about those areas like they know anything about it, they are the same people who think Brooklyn is the "ghetto."I see you ignored the post where I commented on the fact that you think it is ridiculous for people to rely on the media for their information. You haven't seen the movie, you are trusting newspapers and CNN with all of your knowledge. You are being very immature, first by taking it to a personal level where this discussion never should have gone, and then by not knowing how to admit you were wrong. Have you ever even been to Harlem or the Bronx? I didn't think Canadian tourism books showcased anything above 60th Street.
. I love how people who aren't from New York love to talk about those areas like they know anything about it, they are the same people who think Brooklyn is the "ghetto." [/b][/quote]
