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It's hard to know whether Caroline has issues with her kids. If you want my opinion, I don't think Andrea turned out the way she would have liked him to be. Caroline was raised with strict discipline and very high standards ("the best bred princess of the Gotha", was the general concensus when she was an adolescent), and I think she was torn when she had to raise her own children : she knew she had rebelled in her late teens, and wanted to avoid seeing that in her kids. She probably had to act both mother and father figures , which is not easy. I think Charlotte followed into her footsteps (and Grace's) in terms of breeding, manners, sportsmanship, intellectual endeavors. I really don't know what Caroline thinks of her boyfriends, but my feeling is, "don't push", so Charlotte won't be rushed into a marriage she'll come to regret. Good move, if you ask me. I don't follow Pierre that much, he seems to be doing OK. Andrea is the wild card. I, for one, still haven't figured out what he really does in life, what degrees he has really earned, if any. This business of "he's studying here, he's studying there" sounds fishy to me, especially since, contrary to his siblings, the paparazzis never seem to manage to catch him near a school. I think it is now well established that he failed his bac (graduation from high school), at least the first time. Did he join a school that did not require it ? Why does he always look like such a mess ? I would assume Caroline is troubled about it. Some claim she is in denial. Again, we're entering the realm of rumors and speculation, so I won't venture there.
 
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Jeanne, what is "Gotha"-doesn't Goth mean the tribe of ancient tribes who used to live in Germany.
Andrea looks suspiciously unkempt to me-he seems like he is not averse to shadier pursuits, if get my meaning. Do you think Caroline likes his girlfriend?
 
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scriptgirl, as far as I know, gotha means the people belonging to royalty. "To be a part of the gotha" means to belong to royalty. I'll have to look at the Royal Forums for a more elaborate definition.
I really can't tell whether Caroline likes Andrea's girlfriend or not. She seems to go along with whatever comes her way. Everybody gets invited on her yacht in the summers, no discrimination. She seems really open-minded about the mores of the young. Again, probably in reaction to her mother, but let me add here that I think that as she grew older, she came to have a great deal of respect for her mother. She really does emulate her mother in so many ways, except in how strict she has decided to be with her children. But of course, her mother raised her with a fifties morality (and in the end, Caroline really benefited, in my opinion) and this is the twenty-first century. It's not my place to judge, but I think she is doing the right thing. I also think Grace was right to be very strict, (in terms of manners, academic accomplishments, athletic prowess, general culture-- lots of traveling, visits to museums, attending concerts and all that), but could have loosened up just a little bit more as Caroline approached her twenties. It would have saved them both a lot of grief.
Well, yes, Andrea, euh....
 
A quick follow-up to yesterday's discussion. I looked up "gotha" in Wikipedia. "Almanach de Gotha" : An annual directory of European nobility". Very interesting entry if you care to look it up.
I remember reading that Princess Grace would peruse the Almanach to see who would make a suitable husband for Caroline. I personally doubt it, it sounds crass, but at the time, they liked to make it sound that P.Grace would not be satisfied with anything less than Prince Charles or his equivalent since their different religions precluded a marriage. When Caroline married Prince Ernst, they were all writing how P. Grace had always dreamed of that union. I personally had never read a word about that.
 
Re # 1763 Look at that Rolls!!! OMG!! Mulliner Park Ward bodied Silver Cloud I....I know you were wondering... :blush:
 
Jeanne, I heard how Grace would have loved for Caroline to marry Charles and I always wondered about the veracity of that story
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She did but she really wanted Caroline to marry him but Caroline had no interest in him he came to Monaco on a visit and everything but Caroline showed him around Monaco took him to a few events and then got on a plane and went back to her guy at that time
 
Good for Caroline. I am sure the British Royals wouldn't have sanctioned the match. Aren't the Monaco Royals looked upon as a joke by other royal families?
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Princess Caroline's Husband is related to the British Royal Family he had to get the queens permission to marry Caroline

And when Grace and Rainier got married their were no royals at their Wedding but when Princess Grace died every Royal Family attended it so I think that just says what Princess Grace did for Monaco's image and even today Prince Albert and Princess Caroline are present at Royal events by other Royal Families weddings ,birthdays etc.....
 
Awww Baby Stephanie she is staring at her dad in that 2nd picture Thanks Scriptgirl
 
You are welcome. Stephanie was so cute as a child and then when she got older...
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I love this pic-Grace and Liz chatting like the girlfriends they were, having a good gossip
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thanks kochie, she looks like a doll in the post #1730, very beautiful :D
thanks scriptgirl for a bunch of beautiful pics everyday
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