Haute Couture Clients

^Of course there are women in the West who buy clothes simply because they are Gucci or Versace etc. But most of those who buy couture usually don't do it in such a superficial way. They do it because they want unique dresses that are made exactly to their measures and that are timeless. Even the richest of them wear haute couture outfits multiple times and yes they do it to impress but not with how much they paid for a gown but how beautiful they look in the dress.
 
Okay let's do the maths according to the article: let's say they go to twenty weddings a year and five private functions a month, that's eighty couture dresses a year.
How much would you say the average couture dress would cost? £50,000? ($78,000?)
£50k x 80 = £4,000,000, maybe add another £500k if you're playing hostess..
£4,500,000/$7,000,000 a year on haute couture dresses - they're going to be making that much while they sleep!
And even if the dresses cost £100k each that's still only double that.
It's a drop in the ocean for multi-BILLIONaires.
 
Haven't we seen it stated over and over that true haute couture customers number in the hundreds only?

all of the above could apply to people in the West, or anywhere in the world who buy, say, RTW pieces. i wouldn't be suprised if an overwhelming number of even RTW customers only buy for the label.

and i'm pretty sure women in the west who buy couture do it to show their status too. you can buy beautifully custom made dresses for a lot less (though still a lot) than the prices the couture houses charge.

and when people dress for events, everyone hopes to look their best, to make good impressions, whether it be on 'future mother-in-laws', potential business partners, friends. different people just have different taste

I think an overwhelming number are buying clothes because they have to wear something, and that something has no recognizable label at all.

As far as people who wear recognizable labels, I don't know, I guess probably the majority may be buying for the label.

Some are probably brand loyal because it's a shortcut to quality. One way to make your life easier is to shop a handful of department or specialty stores and boutiques, and doing that tends to also limit the labels/designers you're choosing from.

I buy based on personal style only, but I'm certainly excited to find something I love from one of my favorite designers.

Yes, buying couture is a status statement--a rarified one. But it's a serious commitment of money--the kind of money that could buy cars and serious jewelry. Many very wealthy people are famously tight-fisted. Women who 'invest' in couture tend to consider it art. I'm sure they also love the experience ... the fittings, personal attention, ability to customize, etc.
 
“I AM ALWAYS PUSHING MYSELF WITH EVERYTHING IN MY LIFE.”
–RICCARDO TISCI

GIVENCHY HAUTE COUTURE BY RICCARDO TISCI, 7:29 P.M., HÔTEL D’EVREUX
Riccardo Tisci can pinpoint his customer: “Givenchy clients today are queens, princesses, and baronesses who have left their horses and coaches and decided to be dynamic, energetic women who fly on private jets,” he smiles. “What does she want from me? Faithfulness, sincerity, and to always study something that is the best. And to celebrate the best angle of the body and personality.” That’s a hefty to-do list, but the Italian designer, who has been at the helm of Givenchy since 2005, seems to have checked every box. One extravagant piece from the edgy cou- ture collection found its way onto Hollywood red carpets within weeks of its debut, worn by Oscar-nominated actress Rooney Mara. “I was inspired by the movie Metropolis for its aesthetic and hardness, which was itself inspired by the music of the 1920s Russian movie Aelita, the origin of techno,” says the designer, who knows his way around a dance club and has forged friend- ships with several reigning R&B divas. “The second part of my inspiration for the collection is Berlin today at the Panorama club.”
vmagazine.com
 
Well, Karl Lagerfeld himself says that the main reason Haute Couture is still surviving is because the faithful clients can buy up to 30 pieces per collection. (Where he said this, I cannot remember, but it definitely stuck in my mind.) Sothe prospect of women getting 80 couture pieces a year isn't truly outlandish. Especially for people who have upwards of 700 mil. in their bank accounts. And the thing that MelancholyBaby brought up seems true. It sounds as if they are trying more to move up in their social circle than to appreciate the exquisite craftsmanship they are purchasing. At the Chanel flagship on Fifth, I went on the third floor (which seemed to be extremely empty, seeing as the first floor [bags] was packed) with my mother, and while we were looking around I overheard a sale with the client texting to someone (probably her husband) the details of the dress and reading aloud what she was writing. The thing that opened up my ears was the saleswoman saying "with embroidered Camellias" and the woman texting "embroidered chameleons." It opened my ears up because it seemed like she wasn't interested in the details of the beautiful dress she was buying, but that she was more interested in the 30,000$ pricetag. If you watch "The Secret World of Haute Couture" (which is available on youtube) you will learn a lot more about the clients in Haute Couture.
 
I read the whole thread at once. I have the feeling that I've reread the same article over and over again since 2008. Rich Russians and Arab princesses - yeah, I got it! It obvious to me that every year when hautre couture week is coming/present it's time for articles like that.

But I'm mostly impressed with the difference between HC now and then. Now I can anwer my questions why my mother/grandmother talks about "THE designer clothes". Now it's clear to me that back then there wasn't pret-a-porte and designer clothes had been only one type - haute couture. So today's HC is kind of something new, isn't it?

[Edit:] And something about billionaires coming to stores. As long as I know rich people, they just don't act in this way. It's all about connections. They just don't go to stores. They don't go to a dentist without some friend recommend the dentist and introduce you to him. I don't know if I'm right but that's my impression.
 
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The thing that opened up my ears was the saleswoman saying "with embroidered Camellias" and the woman texting "embroidered chameleons." It opened my ears up because it seemed like she wasn't interested in the details of the beautiful dress she was buying

Or she was using her Iphone and got auto corrected.
 
Or she was using her Iphone and got auto corrected.

Oh no. She was typing as she said it.


Does anyone know if there are children (I don't mean 15 year olds, I mean 7 year olds) that wear couture? I'm not wondering if they're drenched in couture clothing but I'm just wondering if people ever buy their child a couture dress for something thats a big event on their part. Idk, I'm just curious. Lately I've been thinking about Eloise when her mother brought her that Dior dress for the ball, and I've just been curious. :P :lol:

(The people who would buy their child a dress that expensive definitely has more cents than sense.)
 
Danielle Luquet de Saint Germain to Auction Couture Collection

Later this year, Danielle Luquet de Saint Germain — a friend, model and muse to the late Yves Saint Laurent — will part ways with more than 10,000 pieces by the likes of Azzedine Alaïa, Paco Rabanne, Christian Lacroix and, of course, YSL. Be it lack of space or the desire to share a piece of cultural heritage with the outside world, Luquet’s motives in disposing of the totality of her impressive wardrobe are not clear. Regardless of motive, the October auction in Paris means that a collection billed as one of the world’s most significant private holdings of couture will go under the hammer.

The former model retreated to a discreet life in Geneva years ago, though fellow model Colette, who walked for YSL, Dior and Hermès, and who has remained friends with Luquet, assured WWD that, “Danielle hasn’t changed. She could still fit in all of those dresses.”

The collection will be auctioned off in about three rounds, according to Gros & Delettrez, the first of which will take place Oct. 14, preceded by an exhibition from Oct. 2 to Oct. 5 and again on Oct. 12.

Luquet’s androgynous physique — a petite size 34 — is precisely what attracted Saint Laurent in the Sixties.

“One morning I arrived at the same time as Yves, dressed in a pair of pants and a men’s trench,” Luquet recalled in an interview she gave on the occasion of a retrospective dedicated to her collection at the Museum of Geneva in 2001. “After the presentation, he asked me if I could leave him my clothes for inspiration.”

The couturier’s admiration for his muse is well documented. In a 1969 interview, Saint Laurent divulged: “I’ve been systematically looking for girls who resemble the girl of the moment. [Danielle] came from Lyon, she had done very little fashion, but I realized that her body, her gestures were typical of the woman of today. I had nothing to teach her. On the contrary, it was she who helped me get rid of all outdated references. Everything I did on her — because I always work on a model, never flat — and everything that came tumbling down, was for the better. She made me advance.”

Luquet inspired YSL’s period shocker “le smoking,” his first see-through blouse as well as “la saharienne,” or safari jacket — among the designer’s most well-known looks.

“She wore them with allure,” said Colette. “When she walked into a restaurant, all eyes were on her. The times were different then. We were allowed to keep one haute couture dress per season. Models were the stars, and the designers had very strict policies.”

Coco Chanel’s were the most draconian, Colette recalled: “A Chanel contract forbade [us] from wearing jeans in the evenings. Mademoiselle Chanel had her eyes everywhere. She knew exactly who had not played by her rules the night before.”

Luquet, exclusively with the house of YSL, faced a different problem.

“The summer Saint Laurent created the tuxedo, I borrowed it for an evening to wear at the Casino of Deauville,” the model once recalled. “But I was refused entry.” (Interestingly, it was only last February that the law forbidding women from wearing trousers in France was officially repealed, 214 years after it was originally passed.)

Luquet’s collection, which she has kept in museumlike conditions on the upper floor of her home in Geneva, also includes prototypes by Claude Montana, such as an extravagant ensemble made from thick black velour worthy of a 20th-century Genghis Khan, featuring embroidered bird and floral motifs. There are Lesage embroidered pieces, copious couture jewelry and artistic headgear, one of which was crafted from sheaves of wheat to match a golden kaftan designed by Thierry Mugler in 1978.

“She had a strong eye, she did not pick any pieces that were banal,” said Françoise Sternbach, a member of the French Union of Professional Art Experts who helped put the auction together. “I know everyone will focus on the YSL pieces, which are magnificent, but I tell you there are dresses here by Claude Montana which would not have existed without her. They are one-offs, prototypes designed especially for her.”

Sternbach said the collection was clearly the result of a lifelong passion: “This is not the work of a random person, but that of a lover of fashion. What we see here is one of the most significant private collections of haute couture in the world.”
*WWD.COM
 
^ Wow! I envy her closet.

Anyway, going to back to Middle Eastern HC clients, I say it's pretty normal to them to buy these very expensive clothes. I have a lot of friends working and living in the Middle East and they told me that these women and men treat HC outfits like RTW of the ultra rich and famous. Their extravagance just shows everywhere from their gold plated plasma TV to 5 maids per kid.
 
she modeled some YSL pieces in the late 60s, I learned somewhere le smoking was also inspired by her style.
 
I'm surprised that she's going to give all 10,000 pieces to auction. If I were her I'd donate it to various museums and the YSL archive.

On another note, does anyone have any recent news on Mouna Ayoub?
 
Wow! 10,000 pieces of Haute Couture? I can't wait to see pictures of the exhibition.

I wonder which other people (royals, celebs, socialites....) would have a vast amount of couture/demi-couture pieces that would be worthy of an exhibition, I can barely imagine Sheikha Mozah's collection.
 
I'm surprised that she's going to give all 10,000 pieces to auction. If I were her I'd donate it to various museums and the YSL archive.

On another note, does anyone have any recent news on Mouna Ayoub?

Probably they will be bidding ... I would donate not one shoelace to the YSL archive :innocent:
 
Remember not all clients buy each season.
The most buyer per season or event I would say is Sheikha Mozah. She tends to only wear couture to abroad events. Roland Stephan at one point designer her whole wardrobe for a trip.

Elie Saab, Zuhair Murad are cheaper than the French couture houses.

You can buy a nice couture dress for $35,000.- runway look while dior would charge you around 70 or 80,000.- Euros. I know this for a fact.

Dior starts their prices for a plain dress $30,000.- & Elie Saab's semi embroidered/embroidered dresses are around $30,000 +

I was recently told that Chanel and G.Valli starts at $50,000.-
 
Where will this exhibition takes place? Anyone knows? Would love to see it !
 

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