While Joan walked for minor brands on the SS 2008 season. Karlie walked exclusively for Calvin Klein and Gucci.
While Joan dont get any blue chips campaign for the SS08 Season, Karlie gets Nina Ricci and Pringle of Scotland.
While Joan was a stranger for the
Fall/Winter 2008, Spring/Summer 2009, Fall/Winter 2009 and Spring/Summer 2010 season in terms of runway, covers, etc.
Karlie gets the best campaigns, the major covers, opened and closed the most prestigious shows...
It is the reality... Karlie has also much fame that Joan, even in Latin America.
Come on, you're going to say that Jean Paul Gaultier is not a huge/great campaign?

Or Donna Karan? Or Elie Saab? You can not imagine how much money is gaining Karlie being the face of brands like Juicy Couture or Neiman Marcus.
But the campaigns are not as important as it had for years. Now any model, even newcomer may be the face of the most prestigious brands of Paris.
Karlie not need blue chips campaigns to stay on the crest of the wave.

Joan... yes. Because Karlie is more that a top model.
And Karlie had a contract with Dior, who finished the spring/summer 2012 season. Anyway definitely a contract with VS is much more valuable than a beauty contract.

Also Joan, Saskia and Arizona are not from the same litter that Karlie. KK is a star since 2008, and she has never lowered its level of work.
You're really bring up work from 2008?

That is so ridiculous. Plenty of top models started out as catalogue girls, even Linda Evangelista. There are so many models, particularly ethnic ones, who happen to get type casted into catalogue & commercial jobs. Joan's old agency did a poor job at managing her. Is that Joan's fault? I think not. She was smart enough to make the switch to IMG in 2010, & they have done wonders for her career, kinda like they are currently doing for Karlie

. Unlike Elite, IMG saw Joan's true potential, so please stop bringing up old work from her days at Elite. All models start out on different paths. It took Karmen several years to finally bag A-list campaigns, Saskia didn't make it until she was 29 years old, Arizona was a catalogue girl when she started, etc. The point is that all of these girls are very successful, regardless of their humble beginnings.
And everyone is overplaying Karlie's so-called "fame."

For a girl who is a VS angel, she only has 30,000 more twitter followers than Joan, which in the grand scheme of things is not that much of a difference, considering that Joan has over 142,000 followers. She's gotten that many fans without all that screen time from the VSFS, without all the bad press that Karlie has gotten for working with VS, & without selling "kookies"

. Lets be real here. Karlie is known to the general public for her Native American outfit scandal at the VSFS, shaking her butt in that ill-fitting mermaid costume, going on that one date with Joe Jonas, & all those Leo Dicaprio rumors. We at TFS know her as more than that, but the general public does not. Joan's fan base is very large, & it's not influenced by negative media attention.
JPG, Donna Karan & Elie Saab are good campaigns, but they aren't anywhere near the level of Gucci, Chanel & Fendi. The latter are more prestigious, & they receive more ad spaces in more magazines around the world.
VS is a better contract than any cosmetic contract?

Not really. The prestige of a VS contract has gone tremendously over the years. They have like 64 angels on their roster atm, so most people don't even know who is or isn't an angel anymore.

I wish Karlie luck trying to appeal to the general population when their are 63 more conventionally pretty girls that have the exact same contract as her. Really, good luck with that.
Joan is holding her own just fine, so everyone needs to stop hating on her all the time! She's a model of color doing things in the industry that haven't been done since Naomi came along. Cut her some slack!