Jonathan Anderson - Designer, Creative Director of J.W. Anderson

[yslforever]

But Christian Dior is a separate entity. I have stocks just for CD (very old ones) but not for LVMH, for instance.

LVMH drop is 14% in a month, Kering 22%. Considering that LVMH imo is doing things right, it’s a little bit surprising that Kering is only 8 points above.

It’s true luxury is in a kind of crisis so everyone is selling after the post covid bubble, and stocks all around the world are suffering due to the Trump news, but I would imagine Kering having a stronger fall or LVMH having a softer one. It is quite interesting.

Anyways, even Hermes is falling 13% this month…

Christian Dior SE is the Holding Company of LVMH; CD SE owns 42% of LVMH and 57% of the voting rights.
The Arnaults owns 97,5% of this Christian Dior SE, and you own a part of the remaining 2,5%.
Christian Dior Parfums SA (the perfumes and beauty) and Christian Dior Couture (the fashion) are fully-owned (100%) by LVMH, they were purchased by LVMH from Christian Dior SE in 2017.

Christian Dior SE does nothing else that owning LVMH, so there are very little difference between owning Christian Dior shares or LVMH shares.
They follow the same curb, LVMH is more volatile than CD because of the amount of shares available and exchanged on the stock markets: the daily volume of CD share is less than 4,000 vs 500,000 a day for LVMH.

 

[Creative]

Christian Dior SE is the Holding Company of LVMH; CD SE owns 42% of LVMH and 57% of the voting rights.
The Arnaults owns 97,5% of this Christian Dior SE, and you own a part of the remaining 2,5%.
Christian Dior Parfums SA (the perfumes and beauty) and Christian Dior Couture (the fashion) are fully-owned (100%) by LVMH, they were purchased by LVMH from Christian Dior SE in 2017.

Christian Dior SE does nothing else that owning LVMH, so there are very little difference between owning Christian Dior shares or LVMH shares.
They follow the same curb, LVMH is more volatile than CD because of the amount of shares available and exchanged on the stock markets: the daily volume of CD share is less than 4,000 vs 500,000 a day for LVMH.

Yes! But they vary a little bit if you do short term trading and the CD one is more sensitive to Dior changes or the state of Dior in general, but yes, at the end of the day it’s part of LVMH.

 

[vogue28]

Admittedly I'm not a Jonathan Anderson fan but even I am able to commend and appreciate his work for Loewe. Fingers crossed he's able to transform Christian Dior in the way he was able to transform Loewe...

 

[fenty]

Finally they announced his departure

 

[GIVENCHYlover]

Lots of details in this post

 

[Frederic01]

So wait, he will show his menswear collection for Dior in June and then Maria Grazia will still be showing her Haute Couture in July? Weird, no?

 

[FashionFanatico]

This collection will sell like hot cakes.


The crafmanship is insane.

 

[Salvatore]

So wait, he will show his menswear collection for Dior in June and then Maria Grazia will still be showing her Haute Couture in July? Weird, no?

I assume—or hope and pray—he's working on both menswear and haute couture. I would imagine he's been working on menswear ever since Kim left and now dedicating his time to at least conceptualizing haute couture. Just my speculation.

 

[Lola701]

So wait, he will show his menswear collection for Dior in June and then Maria Grazia will still be showing her Haute Couture in July? Weird, no?

No she is supposed to leave after her resort in May.
She is showing Prefall 2025 in April (the collection hits the stores in June 2025) and resort 2026 is late May 2025.

So he may show menswear in May and Couture in July.
Even if I appreciate that it’s not messy like KERING, it’s almost too soon lol.

If I was him, I would have kept the menswear under the wraps, do a lookbook and a showroom presentation like he did for Loewe and reserve the first outing of his vision for Dior for the Couture.

 

[Frederic01]

No she is supposed to leave after her resort in May.
She is showing Prefall 2025 in April (the collection hits the stores in June 2025) and resort 2026 is late May 2025.

So he may show menswear in May and Couture in July.
Even if I appreciate that it’s not messy like KERING, it’s almost too soon lol.

If I was him, I would have kept the menswear under the wraps, do a lookbook and a showroom presentation like he did for Loewe and reserve the first outing of his vision for Dior for the Couture.

I thought that her contract ends in July, as it started in July 2016? Hence why Haute Couture would be her last collection, non?

 

[Salvatore]

I thought that her contract ends in July, as it started in July 2016? Hence why Haute Couture would be her last collection, non?

Maybe that is where the holdup is in her leaving ? Maybe they are reaching an early termination agreement ?

They will not announce that JWA will be taking over menswear without also announcing he will take over womenswear, too. I am just ready for them to make it all official.

 

[Lola701]

I thought that her contract ends in July, as it started in July 2016? Hence why Haute Couture would be her last collection, non?

It’s also a possibility. The reality is that nobody except the suits at LVMH knows the terms of her contract. Because if her first contract was a 3years contract and her second a 5 years, it ended last year and terms may have changed.

We don’t know what will be her next move. Everybody knows that she wants to work in Italy but we don’t know if LVMH has a plan for her. She can take Pucci or Fendi or leave all together.

We just have to wait. I just hope that she won’t take over Fendi.

 

[Creative]

I heard she will not stay in LV*H and that she doesn’t want something smaller than D*or.

 

[Lola701]

I heard she will not stay in LV*H and that she doesn’t want something smaller than D*or.

She will end up like Frida then.
I find it so ridiculous lol. I would take Pucci, demand an insane amount of money and run with it.

 

[Frederic01]

I heard she will not stay in LV*H and that she doesn’t want something smaller than D*or.

Wow! If this is true, she is delusional. This goes beyond being ambitious. With all due respect Maria Grazia, you have nothing more to bring to the fashion conversation. Literally nothing.

Seriously, where does this woman get her confidence from?! I need to know! Because after being years of being dragged through the press, dragged through endless TikTok's and YouTube videos, and also dragged by customers and lovers of Christian Dior (and not to mention people at Dior in the design team and in the archives and in the stores LOL) I don't know what could possibly give Maria Grazia the impression that her designs and aesthetic and general contribution is respected and/or adored and needed within the fashion or cultural landscape.

Jonathan Anderson is what people want to see in the year 2025 and beyond. This is clear. He may not sell as much as Dior did, but he is a respected and celebrated designer. He pushes boundaries and excites people with his designs. And in some ways is more progressive in terms of feminism than Maria Grazia is, which is hilarious to me. I mean, at least at Loewe he was a champion of all kinds of women of all ages and physiques. Who can forget that iconic Maggie Smith campaign! On the other hand, I don't recall Maria Grazia ever using anyone over the age of 30 in one of her mainline campaigns? And she has the gall to call her work feminist and inclusive? LOL x 100000.

She needs to retire and go to work at a museum or cultural institution. I've written that before and I stand by it. She could really blossom and do something meaningful there rather than the fashion industry, where her only talent is generating sales and making mediocre, commercial junk.

 

[Creative]

Yeah, I don’t know if that’s true but someone with a very high position in LV*H told me that. I guess she was offered Fendi and she declined.

I mean, it kind of makes sense in a way. I despise MGC as a designer but it must be like in management, once you’ve been at a certain position at a certain brand, no one wants to go to a less important brand… it’s an ego thing I feel.

I wonder if Gucci asked her to work for them… but it’s true she’s only liked by clients, because she doesn’t have the critic nor the fashion TikTok/IG people by her side, so maybe they didn’t even try.

Her approach to fashion is so dry and dull that I doubt that it could bring fashion excitement to any maison.

 

[tourbillions]

enjoy your break with virginie and sabato

 

[Xone]

Wow! If this is true, she is delusional. This goes beyond being ambitious. With all due respect Maria Grazia, you have nothing more to bring to the fashion conversation. Literally nothing.

Seriously, where does this woman get her confidence from?! I need to know! Because after being years of being dragged through the press, dragged through endless TikTok's and YouTube videos, and also dragged by customers and lovers of Christian Dior (and not to mention people at Dior in the design team and in the archives and in the stores LOL) I don't know what could possibly give Maria Grazia the impression that her designs and aesthetic and general contribution is respected and/or adored and needed within the fashion or cultural landscape.

Jonathan Anderson is what people want to see in the year 2025 and beyond. This is clear. He may not sell as much as Dior did, but he is a respected and celebrated designer. He pushes boundaries and excites people with his designs. And in some ways is more progressive in terms of feminism than Maria Grazia is, which is hilarious to me. I mean, at least at Loewe he was a champion of all kinds of women of all ages and physiques. Who can forget that iconic Maggie Smith campaign! On the other hand, I don't recall Maria Grazia ever using anyone over the age of 30 in one of her mainline campaigns? And she has the gall to call her work feminist and inclusive? LOL x 100000.

She needs to retire and go to work at a museum or cultural institution. I've written that before and I stand by it. She could really blossom and do something meaningful there rather than the fashion industry, where her only talent is generating sales and making mediocre, commercial junk.

Agreed...

But greedy,ambition and big ego can lead you to the wrong places or situations...
She can have pursue an important role in Italy to support women artists as she seem commited to that....
and with her credentials she can go to a "smaller" brand and make whatever she wans in there...
But if she doesnt want to stay at LVMH brand and she brand nothing smaller than Dior i dont know what are her options...

 

[Xone]

enjoy your break with virginie and sabato

The 3 can make a brand...called BB (BAD & BORING)
that is the thing they had in common lol

 

[Lola701]

enjoy your break with virginie and sabato

Lol. But Virginie will always have people’s affection because she worked with Karl for so long.
How ironic that MGC got the bigger job between her and PPP but he is really the one who earned the respect of the industry through his work.
People will remember PPP for his work but MGC will be remembered for her commercial success.