Kim Jones - Designer, Creative Director of Dior Men

[JohannesL]

Lol, no souvenir for Maria Grazia at this point? I think she did help make a lot of money for them.

 

[GRCF]

Who takes that award seriously anyway? They give that to anyone if you look at the list of people who’ve been awarded the honor. The entire cast of Emilia Perez got it. Delphine Arnault got it, and while I stan her, neither her nor most people who’ve received the honor have done anything that’s worth acknowledging. I suppose one could argue that Dior is culturally important to France but still.

 

[JohannesL]

Isn't the Emilia Perez director and the film facing blacklash in Mexico? Something like the director saying something rude about not bothering to learn Mexican culture... I remember reading those tweets months ago.

 

[GRCF]

Isn't the Emilia Perez director and the film facing blacklash in Mexico? Something like the director saying something rude about not bothering to learn Mexican culture... I remember reading those tweets months ago.

I think the film has received mixed reviews because of a lack of cultural understanding and Selena’s atrocious accent. Which as woke as we might want to be, if you are gonna play a native-X speaker then do the work. But just goes to my point that anyone is awarded chevalier of the Légion d’Honneur.

I used to work at the French Consulate and we had Légion d’Honneur ceremonies for WW2 veterans that were still alive. I feel like the honor has turned into a joke now and is an insult to them, but that’s just me on my high horse.

 

[Lola701]

I would go as far as to question why fashion designers should receive such stately honors, unless their work has larger cultural significance than just profit for shareholders.

Kim Jones did not make himself a name with charity work, the preservation of french savoir faire or even owning a company in France. So what is that would merit him such honors from the french society?

Fashion is very important for France. So for me, designers should receive honors because their creative contribution allows Fashion in France but also the city of Paris to really have a worldwide impact.

I think however that the word impact is a bit of a pot pourri because everybody in that aspect can have an impact.

No disrespect to Kim jones but I think that Giambattista Valli was more deserving of his award than him. I also feel the same about Jacquemus even though one could argue that his shows generated an interest towards France beyond Paris.

Who takes that award seriously anyway? They give that to anyone if you look at the list of people who’ve been awarded the honor. The entire cast of Emilia Perez got it. Delphine Arnault got it, and while I stan her, neither her nor most people who’ve received the honor have done anything that’s worth acknowledging. I suppose one could argue that Dior is culturally important to France but still.

Hmm it’s a little bit more complicated.
They didn’t received the same honor.

Delphine Arnault received the Chevalier de La Légion D’honneur. She received the honor through the ministère de l´Economie. And it is the highest distinction.

The cast of Emilia Perez received the honor of Chevalier des Arts et des Lettres, which is given by the Ministère de la culture and which is the lowest distinction as they received it for the particular oeuvre and it impact.

 

[yslforever]

He’s already an OBE, collecting medals, instead of stellar collections.

 

[tricotineacetat]

Fashion is very important for France. So for me, designers should receive honors because their creative contribution allows Fashion in France but also the city of Paris to really have a worldwide impact.

I think however that the word impact is a bit of a pot pourri because everybody in that aspect can have an impact.

No disrespect to Kim jones but I think that Giambattista Valli was more deserving of his award than him. I also feel the same about Jacquemus even though one could argue that his shows generated an interest towards France beyond Paris.

Hmm it’s a little bit more complicated.
They didn’t received the same honor.

Delphine Arnault received the Chevalier de La Légion D’honneur. She received the honor through the ministère de l´Economie. And it is the highest distinction.

The cast of Emilia Perez received the honor of Chevalier des Arts et des Lettres, which is given by the Ministère de la culture and which is the lowest distinction as they received it for the particular oeuvre and it impact.

For me, it’s understandable that people like Sonia Rykiel, Kenzo Takada, Gaultier and all the designers who settled in Paris to build their own fashion houses, with a decade-spanning success, would be deserving of such laurels - It would make Simon Porte Jacquemus or Christophe Lemaire obvious choices, much like Giambattista Valli, who spent all of his career in France.

To hear that Nicolas Ghesquiere didn‘t receive these honors yet, despite his obviously larger contribution to contemporary French fashion and himself being a French citizen (unlike Kim Jones, who only ever started to work in France after joining Vuitton) is upsetting, to say the least!

 

[Nimsay]

where is charles de gaulle when you need him.

 

[carla56]

where is charles de gaulle when you need him.

I read charles de villemorin I was going to faint 🤣

 

[Lola701]

For me, it’s understandable that people like Sonia Rykiel, Kenzo Takada, Gaultier and all the designers who settled in Paris to build their own fashion houses, with a decade-spanning success, would be deserving of such laurels - It would make Simon Porte Jacquemus or Christophe Lemaire obvious choices, much like Giambattista Valli, who spent all of his career in France.

To hear that Nicolas Ghesquiere didn‘t receive these honors yet, despite his obviously larger contribution to contemporary French fashion and himself being a French citizen (unlike Kim Jones, who only ever started to work in France after joining Vuitton) is upsetting, to say the least!

Yes I totally agree with you.
I have to look at the list of designers who were decorated.
I know a lot of them were decorated.
I know Karl received the Commandeur honor. YSL received the Grand Officier honor.
JPG became commandeur des Arts et Lettres…etc.
I know Suzy Menkes was decorated. Anna Wintour was decorated.

Yes for me, Kim Jones is quite a weird honoree. Yes Marc Jacobs is an American who lived mostly in the US but he really pushed Vuitton and the idea of France for luxury to the highest level.

I wonder if the Japanese ever declined. I know Karl declined for years before accepting. And besides Kenzo no other Japanese designer got it.

One shady friend of mine said to me that everybody who is a bit liked gets his Chevalier honoree. It’s like a basic degree. Only a few ones got higher honors!

where is charles de gaulle when you need him.

Ahaha.
But seriously, fashion started to be recognized as an « Art » form and really started to be taken seriously by authorities under Francois Mitterrand in the 80’s. So fashion designers being recognized for their contribution to culture and « Le rayonnement de la France » is quite a recent trend.

 

[Axel Mendoza]

Isn't the Emilia Perez director and the film facing blacklash in Mexico? Something like the director saying something rude about not bothering to learn Mexican culture... I remember reading those tweets months ago.

As a mexican myself the movie has an atrocious approach to mexican culture and context. Disregarding a technical analysis of the screenplay, the lyrics and the music which are all horrid, is beyond hilarious the way this guy just spits incoherences about a society he clearly knows zero about.

It is bad, willy chavarria / harris reed at nina ricci / justin o shea at brioni level.

 

[youthinasia]

As a mexican myself the movie has an atrocious approach to mexican culture and context. Disregarding a technical analysis of the screenplay, the lyrics and the music which are all horrid, is beyond hilarious the way this guy just spits incoherences about a society he clearly knows zero about.

It is bad, willy chavarria / harris reed at nina ricci / justin o shea at brioni level.

🎶 Man to woman? Woman to man? 🎶

 

[eugenius]

I don't care what anybody says. His f/w 2020 show will always be my fave from him, and definitely one of my favorite menswear shows in recent memory. The coats, the pants, the shoes, the accessories; even the styling, the cast, and the actual runway presentation as a whole looks good to me. And not a single reference to some silly moment in pop-culture, or, worse, the writings of Jack Kerouac. I can do without the long shirts, but that's no big deal for me. I remember his collections around this time weren't too shabby, but I feel like when he signed up for Fendi, that's when his collections started to run the gamut from questionable to downright ugly.

 

[Page666]

For me, it’s understandable that people like Sonia Rykiel, Kenzo Takada, Gaultier and all the designers who settled in Paris to build their own fashion houses, with a decade-spanning success, would be deserving of such laurels - It would make Simon Porte Jacquemus or Christophe Lemaire obvious choices, much like Giambattista Valli, who spent all of his career in France.

To hear that Nicolas Ghesquiere didn‘t receive these honors yet, despite his obviously larger contribution to contemporary French fashion and himself being a French citizen (unlike Kim Jones, who only ever started to work in France after joining Vuitton) is upsetting, to say the least!

Nicolas Ghesquiere became a Chevalier de l’Ordre des Arts et des Lettres at Balenciaga around 2007/8