MDC (Models.com) Rankings

[WerbowyStegner]

I was just reading in Karmen Pedarus interview:

I: "That important ranking we're talking about is website's models.com rank. You're having the 18th position in that ranking? It actually is a big accomplishment."
Karmen: "Yes, out of the 50 models all over the world it's quite big. "
I: "How to accomplish that kind of high position?"
Karmen: "It is about appearing in the best magazines, in Vogues for example. Doing the best campaigns and shows. About working with the best designers. That's how you get to that ranking."
I: "Being in that ranking is what produces the success. It helps the fashion personalities to find the best models? You kind of had like a lead. "
Karmen: "Yes, many photographers and stylists check that site and they can see that I'm in the top 20. So you are booked more. "

I think its stupid to say this list is pointless , maybe its biased but this list is held in pretty high regard by the media. Almost every interview I've read , the interviewer talks about what an 'honour' it is to be ranked in this top 50. Also maybe not all but a lot of models do feel to be ranked is a prestige. It's more or less like the 'oscars' of the modelling industry. Perhaps thats a hyperbole/exaggeration but its SOMEWHAT true , maybe not everyone will agree on the list but being on the list will garner some sort of recognition + in Brazil whenever a model hits #1 , theres always a bunch of interviews that follow and some sort of celebratory thing .. I dunno. I'm just tired of the bashing , its useless blablabla , whatever. When you're favourite model is down "oh the list is USELESS" , when you're favourite model is up - OH YAYAYAY. So I'm just saying ,t he list DOES mean something , its RECOGNITION and the media definitely take an interest in this list above ALL other lists.

 

[zoom]

^yup...you summed it up perfectly @WerbowyStegner.

 

[Riseup]

Arlenis Sosa is back in the list at 25...

 

[alonsoJonathan]

^^^ Good!

 

[TREVOFASHIONISTO]

About it becoming such a big deal is honestly a joke to me. Why do so many people use this as a tool to pick girls if that is true?


I honestly dont care for this list because they definitely rank their favorites.
Not being biased at all but Maryna should not have moved down from 27 to 31. It isnt like she isnt working.
-2 Major Vogue covers
-Ad campaigns (Express, Derek Lam, Dolce & Gabbana, and Blumarine)
Caroline and Sessilee are doing what? Sesilee is still riding on that VI cover?

Lara and Freja should be #1
Natasha, Sasha and Anja #2


Nimue moved up because of Mulberry?

 

[Shelton123]

Nimue actually moved down, she used to be #22.

 

[fantastical]

I was just reading in Karmen Pedarus interview:


I think its stupid to say this list is pointless , maybe its biased but this list is held in pretty high regard by the media. Almost every interview I've read , the interviewer talks about what an 'honour' it is to be ranked in this top 50.

just because the media give something attention does not make it of importance. I'm sure they just google model and this is one of the first sites that comes up, it's not like they are actually in-the-know of how the actual industry runs to give this list any merit whatsoever.

this is precisely the reason why the injustice the list does to some girls bug me. that and their blatant favoritism to some girls (natasha at #2 tied with freja WTF!, miranda at 6 joan at 7 etc..). it's because eventually the list gets into blogs and then filters down to magazines eventually and news and... ugh. whatever. i just wish this list isn't as popular or as quoted as it is.

exactly! I agree with this so much. it's because of the attention that the actual list gets that makes people think that it is actually important.


besides, so many fashion insider come here and say how unimportant this list is and how there really isn't a foundation upon which to rank these models. that's proof enough for me. If there's anything on the list that I do agree with, it might be the top 5 because these are really the models that are working their *** off with covers, campaigns, and editorials. other than that it doesn't matter.

 

[Omnis]

There's no way that the top photographers and stylists that Karmen works with book her based on the ranking on models.com. No way. Either that quote was wrong, or she doesn't know what she's talking about ..

Seriously, does anyone see David Sims or Mario Sorrenti sitting in front of the computer and checking the rankings on models.com to see which models they should work with? Haha.

I was just reading in Karmen Pedarus interview:


I think its stupid to say this list is pointless , maybe its biased but this list is held in pretty high regard by the media. Almost every interview I've read , the interviewer talks about what an 'honour' it is to be ranked in this top 50. Also maybe not all but a lot of models do feel to be ranked is a prestige. It's more or less like the 'oscars' of the modelling industry. Perhaps thats a hyperbole/exaggeration but its SOMEWHAT true , maybe not everyone will agree on the list but being on the list will garner some sort of recognition + in Brazil whenever a model hits #1 , theres always a bunch of interviews that follow and some sort of celebratory thing .. I dunno. I'm just tired of the bashing , its useless blablabla , whatever. When you're favourite model is down "oh the list is USELESS" , when you're favourite model is up - OH YAYAYAY. So I'm just saying ,t he list DOES mean something , its RECOGNITION and the media definitely take an interest in this list above ALL other lists.

 

[JustABoy]

People sure are taking a lot of time to rip apart a list that is "unimportant." It seems like a waste of time to write about something that doesn't matter to you when surely there are elements of the fashion world that do, right? Or rather, it seems like obviously this list matter if you take the time to painstakingly point out why you disagree with it -- you wouldn't be invested otherwise.

Joan's ranking seems fair to me -- if anything I bet the fact that perhaps she works less than some others beneath her is an indication of her exclusivity. Remember, ubiquity unless it's at the high end of the industry (Freja comes to mind right now) is not necessarily the factor that matters most to the makers of this list -- look at who's on top and why she's on top if you have any doubt of that. Joan appears in the best magazines (Vogue Italia, Vogue US, Vogue Germany), but really what's most noteworthy about her is that as new girl she has managed to book jobs alongside many industry veterans (givenchy couture, tom ford, the editorial in US Vogue featuring the first glimpse of his clothes in a major fashion magazine(a photo where the average career length is in the double digits). Not to mention estee lauder. Although, yeah, sure, perhaps the girls booking express and nine west get more exposure in (extremely low paying) editorials and (extremely low paying) covers and (well paying, but irrelevant) campaigns.

 

[JustABoy]

There's no way that the top photographers and stylists that Karmen works with book her based on the ranking on models.com. No way. Either that quote was wrong, or she doesn't know what she's talking about ..

Seriously, does anyone see David Sims or Mario Sorrenti sitting in front of the computer and checking the rankings on models.com to see which models they should work with? Haha.

Agencies at the very least exert a lot of energy trying to get their models highly ranked; one said as much in an interview in Industrie, I believe. And I'm sure that by affecting agencies, the site makes an impact on the industry at as a whole, if nothing more than as a measure of who is hot right now.

I notice that you don't work in the industry; neither do I; Karmen, does, however, so forgive me if i take her word for it . Isn't it a bit presumptuous to suggest that a girl who knows the industry well enough to advance her career further than the vast majority of working models knows less about it than you do? Or rather, to suggest that someone who contradicts an assumption you make about an industry you don't work in was either misquoted or wrong? What makes you more credible than her?

 

[Vinciano]

Don't get all the fuss about Miranda being so high. How could she not be? Household names in the modeling world are rare and she seems to be poised to be the first since Gisele and Kate to really become a part of the universal consciousness outside of those who follow the industry. Add to that the fact that she gets money like few others, her commercial presence, the high fashion campaigns, and the thumbs up from the most important photographer in the business and it's a no-brainer. The top seven is pretty much spot on, save for Natasha and Anja need to be switched.

 

[alonsoJonathan]

^^ i remember Natasha n isabeli been in #6 spot in late 2007 n they both had done way more then what miranda kerr has done.
of course HF talking.

 

[TREVOFASHIONISTO]

Agencies at the very least exert a lot of energy trying to get their models highly ranked; one said as much in an interview in Industrie, I believe. And I'm sure that by affecting agencies, the site makes an impact on the industry at as a whole, if nothing more than as a measure of who is hot right now.

I notice that you don't work in the industry; neither do I; Karmen, does, however, so forgive me if i take her word for it . Isn't it a bit presumptuous to suggest that a girl who knows the industry well enough to advance her career further than the vast majority of working models knows less about it than you do? Or rather, to suggest that someone who contradicts an assumption you make about an industry you don't work in was either misquoted or wrong? What makes you more credible than her?

Karmen can honestly agree her switch of agencies probably has been for the better, and not the MDC list for why she has gotten excellent work recently

trust me clients do not look on that list and pick the girls they want to use...especially major photographers like Meisel, M&M, I&V all have their favorites...agents might use that sometimes as an excuse of why you should book a model, but its never the ultimate decision.

Plus I would automatically think the newcomers list would be the one everyone looks at.

 

[happycanadian]

can anyone please explain to me why KK hasn't been put back onto the models.com lists?! she should be on the main list (*because, simply put -- with the amount of runway shows she did, the quality editorials, the magazine covers, and 3 major fashion campaigns, plus commercial campaigns like Mercedes and John Frieda --- she is unarguably one of the Top 50 working models at the moment*) and since she is absolutely an icon, and a currently prolifically working one, she has got to be put back onto the "Working Icons" list!!

SOMEONE FIX THIS!

 

[carmen_kass]

Her comeback isn't yet cemented, it' only been two seasons really and only her second in serious campaigns, she's a difficult one to place because she has been number 1 before, maybe she'll come back in the top 5 like Isabeli did after her break, but the top 5 is pretty full and the icons list is also pretty full. We don't even know if she'll be booking campaigns like this in another 2 seasons.

 

[WerbowyStegner]

#135
Right she isnt just talking about merely highly established photographers ..
She's probably just saying in general clients DO look at that list..

 

[WerbowyStegner]

just because the media give something attention does not make it of importance. I'm sure they just google model and this is one of the first sites that comes up, it's not like they are actually in-the-know of how the actual industry runs to give this list any merit whatsoever.



exactly! I agree with this so much. it's because of the attention that the actual list gets that makes people think that it is actually important.


besides, so many fashion insider come here and say how unimportant this list is and how there really isn't a foundation upon which to rank these models. that's proof enough for me. If there's anything on the list that I do agree with, it might be the top 5 because these are really the models that are working their *** off with covers, campaigns, and editorials. other than that it doesn't matter.

I think you don't understand what I'm trying to say.
Whatever your opinion is models.com DOES have a huge media influence. And YES Media does shape IMPORTANCE , it may not be the SOLE factor but it is a contributing factor.
For example: Where would actresses and such be without the media? The media really does shape which celebrities are the most 'popular'.
Its not SIMPLY because they are 'first on google' as you say.
It is an HONOUR to be ranked regardless of whether you think its important or not.
All I'm saying is , it has its place , if it weren't so important why would a subsequent ENDLESS amount of interviews occur in Brazil once their model gets placed on "number one"

Models(not all but A LOT) have always proclaimed their joy on being ranked because the list is the most viewed of any on the internet so in essence it DOES give recognition.

Plus people at models.com ARE in the industry and they certainly know more about this than you and me.

So say all you want,
its unimportant blablabla but at the end of the day , even if the benefits aren't SO significant , models DO benefit from being on the list.

You can argue all you like ,but really this list does help in some form of the matter with models.

 

[WerbowyStegner]

So basically cons ; it may not be entirely accurate.
Pros ; PUBLICITY/ 'honor' , its like those "people" lists. You may not agree but at the end of the day it does matter.

And plus everything IS subjective.
Regardless if your favourite model moved up you'd be STOKED.

twas all.

 

[LiranYana]

Lara and Freja should be #1
Natasha, Sasha and Anja #2

I really agree on this one, But I don't think a No.1 spot will ever be shared
This happened in the time with Liya and Natalia that made me so angry before

Lara has cemented herself in the Industry even will less Campaign.
but a CK exclusive and maybe some covers, eds and Freja has done a Lot but she hasnt achieved Lara's Stardom yet. so Lara deserves No.1 Spot.
I am only mad about Sasha's placement. Sasha always gets a lot of campaigns every season and they keep bringing her down every year.

Is Sasha sort of a SACRIFICIAL LAMB ?
I dont get it

 

[tocceve]

I think Freja achieved stardom. She gets credited in editorial titles a lot and is frequently in all major magazines, she works her *** off compared to Lara. She needs an All Freja issue and maybe some more contracts for fragrances or a makeup deal which I don't see happening and she will be number one.

She exposes herself almost as often as Lara the only difference is that she doesn't have the gap between her teeth and the huge breast.