MDC (Models.com) Rankings

[happycanadian]

i agree, barbie! the original supers are in an entirely separate category and can't legitimately be compared to any of the working models of today.

from today's crop, Daria is certainly classified as an Icon!

 

[LiranYana]

i agree with you on the sasha part. damn, this girl got almost the no. 1 spot against zimmermann! one word: BIAS! i guess, sasha will follow MCB's footsteps on the ranking (though MCB's highest ranking to date was only #4, WTH, right? then she skip it and made it through the icon list but only at the twentieth spot )

While most of these girls fade. Sasha has cemented herself and will be in the HF Industry for a very Long Long Time. Hopefully soon justice will be given by moving her to the icons list.

some said before Sasha was just a Gemma copycat?, in the end Sasha outwitted Gemma, she was just a Prada Girl and will soon fade after her contract ends ? Sasha is still here and is doing better than ever . she gets campaigns season after season.

 

[agee]

Re the ranking of the supers:
I am a fan of Naomi, Christy, Linda and the other supers but they are not entitled to be the queens of everything related to modeling. While definitely not perfect, the MDC list serves a specific purpose and is oriented towards current work, which is information that people are interested in. The supers may have had amazing careers but they do not deserve to be ranked above other working top models just because they were the queens of fashion in 1990s. They get plenty of formal and informal accolades, so not "owning" this list is no big deal.

 

[Luxx]

i don't follow mdc after all they get pretty much everything from these forums

I kind of wish that were true, my job would be easier...

Agee I am with you on the supers though. Interesting to see the reactions to the changes in icons and money girls. I love the energy and interest in this thread, it is very inspiring.

 

[happycanadian]

agee -- i agree to an extent. that is why i actually like the idea of a "Working Icons" list.

Linda, Christy, Naomi, Cindy, etc -- they will always be a special case, just because at that time in popular culture, they really were a special case. but their ranking on that list should be based on their work now, in which case a currently iconic model like Daria or Gisele could certainly rank above the supers.

 

[congacon]

Daria is not iconic at. All. Plus I'm sure girls like Linda, Naomi, Christy, Kate, and Gisele get paid substantially more when they land a campaign over, say, Natalia, Daria, or Liya. So, moneys not really the issue. But yeah now I understand that its a working icons list. It's still quite shameful to me.

judging from a talent perspective, daria is ten thousand times better than naomi. just because she is not well known model like naomi that doesn't mean she is not an icon. i doubt that naomi get substantially more than someone like daria or natalia. this is not the 90's, naomi is not in demand like she used to be. so please get real.

 

[agee]

judging from a talent perspective, daria is ten thousand times better than naomi. just because she is not well known model like naomi that doesn't mean she is not an icon. i doubt that naomi get substantially more than someone like daria or natalia. this is not the 90's, naomi is not in demand like she used to be. so please get real.

Um no... Both Daria and Naomi are talented models and have had amazing careers, if one is more in demand that the other at a given moment, it is more about the tastes of the time or their career management / priorities than which one is more talented.

 

[LabelWhore4]

Sweetie please..... Like people have stated before the Supers are a special case. They are actually celebs in their own right. I'm quite certain they routinely get more $$$ from an average campagin (that they choose to be in) than girls like Liya or Natalia. It doesn't make them better. They are just more recognizable to the general public.

I think a Legends list would be cool to honor those who have blazed a particularly amazing trail in the industry. I have no doubt Gisele would top that list but Daria probably wouldn't.. No shade towards her in the slightest. She just is not on that level (yet) and I doubt she cares. Money talks and she's swimming in it!

 

[happycanadian]

yeah, but a "Legends" list wouldn't really vary a whole lot. it would be the 10 most successful supermodels (Linda, Christy, Naomi, Cindy, Claudia, Stephanie, Eva, Helena, Kate and Gisele, imo.) and it wouldn't vary a whole lot from month to month. plus, it would be tremendously difficult to determine who should be number 1 and who should be number 5. it's entirely subjective, imo, to try and put Kate higher than Linda, or Cindy higher than Gisele.

that's why i guess they have the WORKING icons list, because the amount of work these models do today is measurable and allows for a 1-20 list structure.

the argument that KK has only had 1 strong year back in the high fashion world is fair ... but i don't consider making 5 MILLION a year while modeling for a particular brand to be "not working" and if Malgosia is considered an "icon", i can't imagine why KK wouldn't be. lol! point is - she has been on the icons list before. she was number 1 on the main list from 2002-2004 and she deserves to be back there NOW. (*yes, i am the campaign manager. haha*).

 

[Forrest]

Word! Nobody knows Freja, I asked my friends if they know who Lara stone is, and in U.K. she has three fragrance ads running on T.V., is always in U.K. Vogue and is married to David Walliams, so people know who she is. They have started recognizing her in ads. Unless Freja starts dating Rosie O'Donnel or becomes Freja Beha Degeneres, she's never going to be as famous as Lara, Kate or Gisele. Also, Marcel the fact that Lara has gap teeth and huge boobs isn't the only difference, it's THE difference, nobody wants Freja to take her top off

I couldn't agree more. Also I love the exclusiveness around Lara. I see Freja everywhere, she is just not exclusive. And I agree with your last sentence. Nothing against Freja, but the only reason she is in the Pirelli is because Karl, no other photographer would put her in teh Pirelli. Also Lara with her fragrance and make up, that counts a lot then only lot of eds and some covers.

 

[agee]

I couldn't agree more. Also I love the exclusiveness around Lara. I see Freja everywhere, she is just not exclusive. And I agree with your last sentence. Nothing against Freja, but the only reason she is in the Pirelli is because Karl, no other photographer would put her in teh Pirelli. Also Lara with her fragrance and make up, that counts a lot then only lot of eds and some covers.

But is Lara exclusive or is she complacent and / or has other priorities in her life right now? And if a big contract with a couple of eds thrown in mattered that much then Valentina Zelyaeva should be in the Top 5.

the fact that Lara has gap teeth and huge boobs isn't the only difference, it's THE difference, nobody wants Freja to take her top off

But unfortunately people do want to see Freja with her top off, Freja may not get nekkid as much as Lara does, but I have been traumatized by her nubs quite a few times. Also, unless otherwise noted, the women's list is being referred to in this thread and that is about fashion modeling and not glamor modeling; if taking off your top matters that much then the Playboy is three floors down and to your left.

 

[Forrest]

But is Lara exclusive or is she complacent and / or has other priorities in her life right now? And if a big contract with a couple of eds thrown in mattered that much then Valentina Zelyaeva should be in the Top 5.


But unfortunately people do want to see Freja with her top off, Freja may not get nekkid as much as Lara does, but I have been traumatized by her nubs quite a few times. Also, unless otherwise noted, the women's list is being referred to in this thread and that is about fashion modeling and not glamor modeling; if taking off your top matters that much then the Playboy is three floors down and to your left.

Come on, that's so picky. It's fine that Freja is your favourite but Lara did more then just some eds etc. Many VP covers, US vogue eds, CK worldwide excl. contract (Ck, collection etc.)fragance-ads for Prada, Versace and DKNY. It's my opinion that I love the excl.

It's childish to say that you have been traumatised by her nubs, really misplaced (I assume nubs are nipples) there are more people with that nipples! And is overreacting for a number 1 spot. I'm not going that low to offend Freja or any model on what matter. i think Freja is a great model and desevers to be #2 and could be in the future # 1. But all you say about Lara is not realistic. This is about the ranking, not to defend a favourite. Lara deserves this spot at the moment with her contracts, eds. covers and she is well known.
I only said the Pirelli cause she would never asked for that if it wasn't for Karl.

 

[alonsoJonathan]

^^^^i dont really follow any of those 2 models but is clear that lara has done much more then freja. really people should not argue about this

 

[agee]

Come on, that's so picky. It's fine that Freja is your favourite but Lara did more then just some eds etc. Many VP covers, US vogue eds, CK worldwide excl. contract (Ck, collection etc.)fragance-ads for Prada, Versace and DKNY. It's my opinion that I love the excl.

It's childish to say that you have been traumatised by her nubs, really misplaced (I assume nubs are nipples) there are more people with that nipples! And is overreacting for a number 1 spot. I'm not going that low to offend Freja or any model on what matter. i think Freja is a great model and desevers to be #2 and could be in the future # 1. But all you say about Lara is not realistic. This is about the ranking, not to defend a favourite. Lara deserves this spot at the moment with her contracts, eds. covers and she is well known.
I only said the Pirelli cause she would never asked for that if it wasn't for Karl.

Perhaps I misused the word nubs, but I was referring to her entire chest area, but you are still right that there are a lot of flat-chested people out there too. Also when you think about it, your admonishments of me don't add up, on the one hand you take issue with me making the traumatize comment (and that's fair), but then not once but twice you discount my point of view by in effect stating that I am just advocating for a favorite. And hey, perhaps unconsciously, you extolling Lara's exclusivity is your way of advocating for your favorite.

For the record, since I did not explicitly state it in my previous post - yes even though I am not a Freha stan,* I think that she should be ranked number one on MDC. This is not about bashing Lara, and maybe at some other time having the Calvin Klein contract with a couple of other campaigns and some covers on the side would be sufficient, but it is not sufficient when compared with the Freja Beha Erichsen juggernaut that has been going on for the past several months, and since I think that their overall careers are comparable, I think that you can put a lot of weight on the last year or so. Freha is slaying the runways (and even if she was not a Calvin Klein runway exclusive, Lara was not going to have a comparable showlist); racking up covers and eds, including three Vogue Italia covers, and one thing that I find very, very, very noteworthy about Freha, especially in recent months, is how she has stepped out of the shadow of being part of Karl Lagerfeld's merry band of muses, she is now "in" with various camps of photographers, editors and designers. To me, Freja should have been named #1 after her FW 2010 campaign season, then she definitely should have been named #1 after the SS 2011 runway season, and at Freja's level, she gets paid for her runway appearances; but once Freha stepped in front of Patrick Demarchelier's camera in those Harry Winston diamonds and flashed a smile while holding a piece of cake and then a baby, GAME OVER(!), what else does she need to do? She really, really, really does not need to do anything else, but hey she's doing both print and TV spots for H&M.

* I barely even visit her thread since tFS no longer displays the viewer count and the creepy comments stopped.

 

[congacon]

lara definitely deserves her top spot. freja definitely has more works than lara but quality wise, freja's works dont stand out compared to lara's. everyone is talking about lara's covers or eds but for freja's there is not too much buzz about it(except for her crazy hardcore fan).

what i see in freja's campaigns is that she always share it with other girls. she has so many MG campaigns(balenciaga, chanel, lv, gucci, valentino, and so many more) compared to only girl campaigns. too many MGs campaigns just make me feel like she is not strong enough to sell ads on her own.

 

[Shelton123]

While most of these girls fade. Sasha has cemented herself and will be in the HF Industry for a very Long Long Time. Hopefully soon justice will be given by moving her to the icons list.

some said before Sasha was just a Gemma copycat?, in the end Sasha outwitted Gemma, she was just a Prada Girl and will soon fade after her contract ends ? Sasha is still here and is doing better than ever . she gets campaigns season after season.

Well... I mean Gemma is in the next POTC movie, probably getting paid MUCH more than Sasha is for Miu Miu, Just Cavalli, and all the other campaigns she's gotten recently combined. So, I don't know if Sasha outwitted Gemma, Gemma just didn't want to model any more so Sasha just stole all the work she would've gotten. If Gemma had not left the industry and continued modelling, Sasha would be pretty big but not near where she is today.

That said I ABSOLUTELY LOVE Sasha, possibly more than Gemma. Sasha's personality is so fun and it comes out in every shot she takes, and every runway she walks, not in my top 10 but Sasha's spirit can't be ignored. But if Gemma hadn't quit, Sasha probably would've faded.

 

[LabelWhore4]

^Doubtful. She's not even a rising movie star yet....

 

[tocceve]

I have put so much effort on explaining why Freja and Lara equaly deserce a number one spot (I just think Freja will miss out on the moment of becoming number one like Sasha did because I think she has her career peak right now and not in two years) but eventually I just thought...who cares...

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[Legolas]

 

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