MDC (Models.com) Rankings

[franki]

^^ i agree Sasha has a better current season than abbey, but i don't at all think S/S 11 was better (unless i'm forgetting some work) based on neither quantity nor quality?? but i am open to your opinion. thats why i am curious as to what weighting is given to the previous season. im assuming some (ie the 2 seasons for each balance out, both in demand models, equal ranking)
but i think it is safe to say both have had better than joan, so i just don't get it?? not that the list technically matters.. but it does seem to matter here haha

(ps. i also went back to late 2010 for sasha's covers but not for the others. i dont know how much they count? if they do, abbey also had vogue aus in november)

 

[Hoother]

Abbey has more camapigns ? really
as far as I know almost all the major campaigns are out, she only has Gucci
bias ? I'm just telling the truth and Sasha is more established model compared to Abbey tehy are not on the same rank !

I haven't seen any new abbey eds or covers lately, probably concentrating on her music career, well good for her

Abbey doesn't have more campaigns yet, but in the last three seasons there were never any rumours of her getting campaigns and all the ones she was in came out quite late. She is taking more time for her music career, but that just means she's going to be more selective, which means just as many campaigns (it's not like even she would turn down $300 000) and covers, less editorials and catalogues. Sasha's been around in high fashion for longer, but Abbey is just as established as she is. Everyone who would know of Sasha would know of Abbey.

Boooring, we get it It's not about what you think, it's what about the clients think and they would laugh at your face if you tell them you think they aren't sexy. And if you don't think they are sexy, fine, but lots of them do. Lara is very sexy. She got a great body and lots of sexappeal. Maybe you're more attracted by someone with less curves like Freja (cause you mention her), but no need to pull others down. Also, there were enough who find Lara sexy as angel. It's all based on opinions.
i don't find Doutzen sexy but she got such a beautiful angel face that it make perfect sence she is a angel.

They might laugh in my face saying that, but the majority of people who don't know who the models are would agree with me. Lara may have the body, but her face is creepy and draws away any sex appeal. I don't actually find Freja that sexy really, I just said her because everyone else was using her as an example. I honestly don't believe anyone (besides her fangirls) found her sexy in the VS show.

 

[franki]

It's not about what you think, it's what about the clients think and they would laugh at your face if you tell them you think they aren't sexy. And if you don't think they are sexy, fine, but lots of them do. Lara is very sexy...that it make perfect sence she is a angel.

not that i am agreeing/disagreeing (i personally find neither 3 discussed sexy haha), everyone can have an opinion. and just because your opinion might agree with some clients, doesn't make it any more (or less) important.

i think everyone would agree 'sexy' is different for everyone. i can't even imagine how hard it is to even form that list with everyones opinions clashing if its anything like here!!

 

[Forrest]

^i'm not saying that my opinion is the one you should agree with, just that it makes no sense no argue about it cause its based on opinions and in the end the clients one mather as it comes to work (and the most sexy list). I find Lara sexy not only because of her body but also cause of her attitude. In the end I find Candice or Rosie wahy more sexy then Lara or Doutzen.
I find Marloes Horst a model who should defo be on the list but hey she isn't on any list sooo..

 

[franki]

^ oh ok, fair enough. sorry i just read it as a little rude. my mistake.
haha its true, none of our opinions matter at the end of the day. but its still fun discussion!

 

[Forrest]

^it's okay I get that often but i didn't mean to be rude or something. Good that you point it out

 

[Luxx]

Hi Forrest, good question. Marloes is definitely one of the girls whose career I've been following, she is certainly in the running for sexiest. Dare I say it, she's undeniably sexy.

 

[congacon]

it must be a huge joke if people in general think lara is less sexy than freja. a great part of lara's success is because of her huge sex appeal.

from campaigns, covers and editorials, most of them are centred around lara's sex appeal. freja's fans would think that she is a sexy beast but that is not the case of the industry. i havent seen many covers or editorials from freja that ooze sex to me but lara's is a totally different story.

regarding natasha poly, she should have ranked out of the top 3. she doesnt have much for the last 12 months.

 

[TREVOFASHIONISTO]

Abbey doesn't have more campaigns yet, but in the last three seasons there were never any rumours of her getting campaigns and all the ones she was in came out quite late. She is taking more time for her music career, but that just means she's going to be more selective, which means just as many campaigns (it's not like even she would turn down $300 000) and covers, less editorials and catalogues. Sasha's been around in high fashion for longer, but Abbey is just as established as she is. Everyone who would know of Sasha would know of Abbey.

i don't think this is because of work though... if we look at a model being established Sasha surpasses Abbey. Prada contract alone. Vogue covers alone. Runway alone. Campaigns alone.... now if we want to talk about who is more recognizable by people Abbey might win that one. Due to tumblr and all the hipster people Abbey Lee, Freja, Karmen, Hanne, ad all those other cool models have gotten so much attention on the web due to their style (abbey lee being one of the front runners)

 

[Forrest]

Ha thanks luxx good to hear, she is really a bombshell.
I don't know about ALK and Sasha, but most people I know that are not into fashion do know Sasha because of her face and not ALK.

 

[JustABoy]

They might laugh in my face saying that, but the majority of people who don't know who the models are would agree with me. Lara may have the body, but her face is creepy and draws away any sex appeal. I don't actually find Freja that sexy really, I just said her because everyone else was using her as an example. I honestly don't believe anyone (besides her fangirls) found her sexy in the VS show.

How silly; as if the average person watching VS had any idea who Freja was, and as if the casting agents made decisions about whom to use based on the people who do know. These people are selling a product to consumers in middle america, and that product's sale is dependent upon the perception of sex/sexiness. Of course people who don't know about luxury fashion think Freja is sexy. It's just ridiculous to suggest otherwise -- if they didn't or could never, she wouldn't have been cast in the most commercial, middle market fashion show (it airs on a broadcast network!) that exists.

This is the problem with this thread; people so frequently cross the line between saying here's my subjective opinion (obviously we all have one) and here's what's right. You see it all the time with people who radically misrepresent how much/what work a model has done when all of this information is readily available online.

 

[bothsidesnow]

How silly; as if the average person watching VS had any idea who Freja was, and as if the casting agents made decisions about whom to use based on the people who do know. These people are selling a product to consumers in middle america, and that product's sale is dependent upon the perception of sex/sexiness. Of course people who don't know about luxury fashion think Freja is sexy. It's just ridiculous to suggest otherwise -- if they didn't or could never, she wouldn't have been cast in the most commercial, middle market fashion show (it airs on a broadcast network!) that exists.

Don't you mean Lara??

 

[cologne_rocks]

Well, Freja doesn't strike me as the epitome of luxury fashion sexiness.
Freja seems very self-conscious which is quite appealing but sexy is a bit far fetched.
Rather Carola Remer, Aymeline Valade, Anais Pouliot come to my mind.

 

[LiranYana]

Bianca Balti needs to be in the sexiest List No.9 would be perfect for her
or Top 50 models list, can't believe she still isn't any list

 

[Ochi Chernye]

I don't know if the industry really pays attention to that list, but based on rankings, is Joan the highest-paid black model right now? No, right? I mean, that's what I find ridiculous about this list. We all go on and on about which model should be #1, but as long as they're making money, I don't think the models really care.

Is this list a reflection of the most in demand models, the highest earning or a combination of both? I remember someone once saying that there are models doing catalogue work (e.g Barney's, Nordstrom) who earn more than the Top 50 combined. Is that possible?

 

[woemwoem]

MDC's top 50 is hardly scientific. No one has ever been able to really explain how the list is compiled or why one girl is ranked above the other except to say generalities like "It's based on the buzz around the girl, how much work they're getting, and the quality of the work."
That's hardly a mathematical algorithm.
In the end it's a bunch of people at MDC sitting in a room and making their subjective opinion--who they like, who they think should be ranked higher and who should be lower, what kinds of work they think deserve special attention, and what special considerations some girls should get for whatever reason.
They'll say that they are plugged into the fashion scene and know campaigns that girls are getting, but who knows how true that is. They've definitely ranked girls who have almost nothing to their resumes, no campaigns, a few runway appearances and some editorials in some edgy magazines, and we're like, "What?? Why is she ranked and so high?" We can only assume it's b/c she's landed a campaign(s) that haven't been made public yet. But then months later, there still is no campaign to speak of and the girl has disappeared from the list. Obviously something went wrong along the process.
And I still think agencies holds sway over some these choices. How odd is it that the number of girls that IMG and Women have are almost constant? If one of their girls gets dropped, there's another from the same agency that gets added. That's very coincidental.
And in response to the above query- yes catalogue models are paid very handsomely, in some cases much more so than HF girls. Jamie Bochert, for example, may be loved by the HF crowd, but she doesn't get paid much for a Lanvin campaign or Vogue Italia editorial. Her look also doesn't translate to middle America so she can't score something mainstream and I wouldn't be surprised if someone like Tori Praver made tons more money than her.

 

[Forrest]

How silly; as if the average person watching VS had any idea who Freja was, and as if the casting agents made decisions about whom to use based on the people who do know. These people are selling a product to consumers in middle america, and that product's sale is dependent upon the perception of sex/sexiness. Of course people who don't know about luxury fashion think Freja is sexy. It's just ridiculous to suggest otherwise -- if they didn't or could never, she wouldn't have been cast in the most commercial, middle market fashion show (it airs on a broadcast network!) that exists.

This is the problem with this thread; people so frequently cross the line between saying here's my subjective opinion (obviously we all have one) and here's what's right. You see it all the time with people who radically misrepresent how much/what work a model has done when all of this information is readily available online.

I agree on you with this. That was was I'm trying to say either. For the list it doesn't matter who we think are sexy and it's also pointless to discuss about someone opinion about who is sexy and who is not. It's a good thing we all have our personal taste

 

[Forrest]

I don't know if the industry really pays attention to that list, but based on rankings, is Joan the highest-paid black model right now? No, right? I mean, that's what I find ridiculous about this list. We all go on and on about which model should be #1, but as long as they're making money, I don't think the models really care.

I don't think that they pay much attention to this, neither do the models. As long as they get wrok and money, i don't think Freja, Lara and Anja really don't care who is 1-2 or 3. I can understand that if you work your *** off and are well known and not on the list like Coco you would think it's strainge but not the end of the world. But it's fun and interesting to discuss it with the people here.

 

[Luxx]

Is this list a reflection of the most in demand models, the highest earning or a combination of both? I remember someone once saying that there are models doing catalogue work (e.g Barney's, Nordstrom) who earn more than the Top 50 combined. Is that possible?

Most In Demand High Fashion Models = Top 50

Icons = Models who have transcended the Top 50, in a class by themselves really.

Highest Earning Models = Money Girls

Currently there is no list on the site of top earning commercial-only models. Some girls really only do catalog work and that sort of thing and I'm sure they're rolling in the dough, but we don't have a list for it.

Do models care about the lists - You'd have to ask a model, some of them do, some of them don't. Some of them have no idea such a list even exists. I mean really that would depend on whether or not the girl is competitive and interested in being numero uno.

Who looks at the list - Besides model fans, list is intended for the use of casting directors, bookings editors and clients. Say you're booking a job for a brand and you really want to use a girl who is doing well. It is easy to glance at the top 50 and see a current rundown of girls who are doing big work and you can get a feel for what kind of work they're doing.

Are the lists scientific? No scientists harmed in the making of these lists. Certainly no algorithms either.

 

[cologne_rocks]

I think the Top 50 list makes sense for casting agents working on the high end commercial/beauty side of fashion. Let's say casting directors like L'Oreal's Jym Benzing or Janny Friedberg of H&M.... They hardly ever deal with models other than top talent so it definitely makes sense to sneak a peak at the list and check out the new entrants, if they're looking for fresh sought after models.