Metrosexuals

[PrinceOfCats]

This is totally off topic but anyway:

I saw this ultra-cool guy yesterday. He was about 6'2" slim and muscular. He had pink helmut lang drainpipes and a really slimfitting velvet jacket. If I was gay I would've fancied him But anyway...the girls seemed VERY interested in him....

 

[kit]

Originally posted by Selfridgesworker@Dec 22nd, 2003 - 2:15 pm
I dont take being called gay as a bad thing. I didnt mean to come across like that.

HI again !

Just had another thought , Selfridgesworker , I'm talking about ' STYLE ' , I don't want you looking like any of those FASHION DISASTERS on 'The Salon ' !!! ESPECIALLY the brummie one !!!! Your penchant for Dsquared2 makes me worry a bit .
Only joking !!! My mother lived in Lichfield for 30 years !

Tarra a beet ! KIT

 

[PrinceOfCats]

Dsquared2 have some cool stuff.

 

[Acid]

for all those non-UK residents.....these are the Salon people Kit was talking about

(this last guy winked at me as i was walking down the road with Mehq a few weeks ago )

 

[PrinceOfCats]

 

[Christopher31]

Is The Salon a reality show or somthing on BBC... hah. Looks funny

 

[PrinceOfCats]

Isn't the Salon on ITV? (I hope it's not on the beeb. Bloody waste of my license money if it is)

 

[sbbbjm]

Originally posted by Acid@Nov 19th, 2003 - 5:34 pm
the whole culture started when men realised........'if women can do it......then so can we'

iconic figures such as david beckham and magazines like mens health and GQ have slowly persuaded men that there is nothing wrong with doing stereotypically 'gay' things

GQ has always been about fashion and culture and trends. -- Maybe more guys are just reading it now.

 

[PrinceOfCats]

GQ is softcore p*rn*gr*phy IIRC.

 

[banana]

Exactly. GQ is just slightly more tasteful than FHM or Maxim. Have you guys ever seen the clothes they showcase in Maxim?

 

[strawberry daiquiri]

Originally posted by PrinceOfCats@Dec 22nd, 2003 - 11:32 pm
Isn't the Salon on ITV? (I hope it's not on the beeb. Bloody waste of my license money if it is)

Tis actually an E4/C4 production and a bloody waste of money no matter whos paying

 

[kit]

Originally posted by Christopher31@Dec 22nd, 2003 - 6:27 pm
Is The Salon a reality show or somthing on BBC... hah. Looks funny

Hi Christopher31
Actually ' The Salon ' IS a reality tv programme on the UK's Channel 4 . It's made by Endemol who make ' Big Brother ' in all its incarnations across Europe , eg Germany Holland etc. I admit that it IS 'trash tv' , but compelling nonetheless , in the way that a public execution would be so ! It's set in a hairdressing/beauty salon and the ' raison d'etre ' is to watch the shenanighins of the utter swine of a sadistic boss ( an ex-member of the 80s London scene , friend of BOY GEORGE and his coterie. READ Boy George's autobiography ' Take it like a man ' , for all that pop 80s ambience ) on a power trip with his hapless staff . They encompass mature professionals as well as exhibishionistic young juniors . The point is that ordinary members of the public as well as a smattering of grotesques and Z -list celebrities come in for ' treatments ' ( eg ' back , crack and sac waxes ' ) or hair makeovers , and everybody chats or shows off while the camaras film EVERYTHING , whether behind the scenes in the stsffroom or 'on the floor' , so to speak .
The first series was notable for the character RICCARDO - a brazilian who was , as a critic put it , '' a transvestite who could not ' be arsed ' to actually dress in drag ''. It's characters like these who make the programme so gruesomely compelling , despite what others might think . There are ' normal ' members of the staff , but they dress so appallingly that they look like pantomime ' pikys ' to use a current idiom .
All this is actually ON POINT ( Moderator please note ! ) , as some of the young men , beit staff or customer , are not gay but show the metropolitan ( and here I incude all the big UK cities eg Manchester , Leeds ,Newcastle , Liverpool , Bristol ,Birmingham etc etc ) attitude of young men with fashion and style sense and the wherewithall to shop at Harvey Nichols , Selfridges , Flannels etc etc.
I make no bones about it , I enjoy the programme as ' a slice of life ' that reveals so much about pop culture here in the UK at this particular moment in time eg the phenomenon of ' metrosexuality . ! I am a teacher in an independent school , and can recognise all these traits in my ' highly affluent ' adolescent pupils.

regards KIT

 

[strawberry daiquiri]

Originally posted by kit+Dec 23rd, 2003 - 12:49 pm--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(kit @ Dec 23rd, 2003 - 12:49 pm)</div><div class='quotemain'> <!--QuoteBegin-Christopher31@Dec 22nd, 2003 - 6:27 pm
Is The Salon a reality show or somthing on BBC... hah. Looks funny

Hi Christopher31
Actually ' The Salon ' IS a reality tv programme on the UK's Channel 4 . It's made by Endemol who make ' Big Brother ' in all its incarnations across Europe , eg Germany Holland etc. I admit that it IS 'trash tv' , but compelling nonetheless , in the way that a public execution would be so ! It's set in a hairdressing/beauty salon and the ' raison d'etre ' is to watch the shenanighins of the utter swine of a sadistic boss ( an ex-member of the 80s London scene , friend of BOY GEORGE and his coterie. READ Boy George's autobiography ' Take it like a man ' , for all that pop 80s ambience ) on a power trip with his hapless staff . They encompass mature professionals as well as exhibishionistic young juniors . The point is that ordinary members of the public as well as a smattering of grotesques and Z -list celebrities come in for ' treatments ' ( eg ' back , crack and sac waxes ' ) or hair makeovers , and everybody chats or shows off while the camaras film EVERYTHING , whether behind the scenes in the stsffroom or 'on the floor' , so to speak .
The first series was notable for the character RICCARDO - a brazilian who was , as a critic put it , '' a transvestite who could not ' be arsed ' to actually dress in drag ''. It's characters like these who make the programme so gruesomely compelling , despite what others might think . There are ' normal ' members of the staff , but they dress so appallingly that they look like pantomime ' pikys ' to use a current idiom .
All this is actually ON POINT ( Moderator please note ! ) , as some of the young men , beit staff or customer , are not gay but show the metropolitan ( and here I incude all the big UK cities eg Manchester , Leeds ,Newcastle , Liverpool , Bristol ,Birmingham etc etc ) attitude of young men with fashion and style sense and the wherewithall to shop at Harvey Nichols , Selfridges , Flannels etc etc.
I make no bones about it , I enjoy the programme as ' a slice of life ' that reveals so much about pop culture here in the UK at this particular moment in time eg the phenomenon of ' metrosexuality . ! I am a teacher in an independent school , and can recognise all these traits in my ' highly affluent ' adolescent pupils.

regards KIT [/b][/quote]
He speaks the truth, mmm hmmm

 

[kit]

HI STRAWBERRY DAIQUIRI


I actually forgot to say that the IRONY of it all is this - that when one young male is perceived to be ' not measuring up ' , so to speak , or is seen to be showing his feminine side in dress , appearance or the showing of emotion , the first reaction on the part of his disapproving peers ( those dressed in the latest ' must - have fashion items , together with the latest ' high - maintainance hairstyles ) is for them to hurl the insult - ' GAY ! ' . Homophobia ' in the playground ' is rife , and it's those out to assert their own masculinity at the expense of others who are the most blatently and unconsciously hypocritical .
Will basic tolerence and humanity ever prevail ?


regards KIT

 

[strawberry daiquiri]

HI KIT

I feel it is important to mention at this stage in the discussion, with reference to new developments and such the like, that suggesting someone is 'gay' isn't usually intended as the insult it may well be interpreted as. It is beyond well-known, that every woman loves a fellow of style and taste as one of her nearest and dearest, whether he be gay, bi or metro. So.... if its the women who are jumping to conclusions, chances are they are just hopeful for a new shopping partner, and if its a man resembling a clothes-horse of black and navy trash, he is simply turning green at the thought of being replaced and sending up the defensive barriers, iron guard and lost in morals.

 

[kit]

Originally posted by strawberry daiquiri@Dec 23rd, 2003 - 10:42 am
HI KIT

I feel it is important to mention at this stage in the discussion, with reference to new developments and such the like, that suggesting someone is 'gay' isn't usually intended as the insult it may well be interpreted as. It is beyond well-known, that every woman loves a fellow of style and taste as one of her nearest and dearest, whether he be gay, bi or metro. So.... if its the women who are jumping to conclusions, chances are they are just hopeful for a new shopping partner, and if its a man resembling a clothes-horse of black and navy trash, he is simply turning green at the thought of being replaced and sending up the defensive barriers, iron guard and lost in morals.

HI AGAIN STRAWBERRY DAIQUIRI

AGREED ABSOLUTELY

But at the ' playground level ' I've seen a lot of unhappiness over the years .
Sixth Form ( Year 12 and 13 ) girls cherish their ' gay ' male friends , but it's the male 'dolled-up' hetero ' townies ' who humiliate the unassuming ' nattily-dressed 'lad by hurling ,' Gay ! ', out loud , to maximise the humiliation and embarrassment .

God ! the knowledge I've acquired over the years about teenage 'tribes' and their rituals . I'll have to write a book on it some day !!!

Merry Christmas KIT

 

[tiffany]

I think the media promoting any image is sick - I don't really mind the idea of it being cool for guys to be into their appearances, but only because I was sick of seeing that girls and gay men were the only ones utterly exploited by the media

 

[ahhGucci]

Originally posted by strawberry daiquiri@Dec 23rd, 2003 - 10:42 am
It is beyond well-known, that every woman loves a fellow of style and taste as one of her nearest and dearest, whether he be gay, bi or metro.

Gay, Bi or metro.... To be honest I'm quite new to hearing the phrase 'Metrosexual', but from what I understand, a 'metro' is a straight man that is concerned with his looks. I don't see what this has to do with someone's sexuality. He's still straight right, or are you trying to say that all 'metros' are men that are secretly gay or are ashamed to be attracted to members of the same sex. I am male, and I care about the way I look (hell, I signed up to a fashion forum didn't I), but that doesn't mean I'm different from any other man (I'm not a metro).
Some people are more passionate and emotional than others.
Some are just vain.

 

[strawberry daiquiri]

Originally posted by ahhGucci+Dec 24th, 2003 - 10:29 pm--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(ahhGucci @ Dec 24th, 2003 - 10:29 pm)</div><div class='quotemain'> <!--QuoteBegin-strawberry daiquiri@Dec 23rd, 2003 - 10:42 am
It is beyond well-known, that every woman loves a fellow of style and taste as one of her nearest and dearest, whether he be gay, bi or metro.

Gay, Bi or metro.... To be honest I'm quite new to hearing the phrase 'Metrosexual', but from what I understand, a 'metro' is a straight man that is concerned with his looks. I don't see what this has to do with someone's sexuality. He's still straight right, or are you trying to say that all 'metros' are men that are secretly gay or are ashamed to be attracted to members of the same sex. I am male, and I care about the way I look (hell, I signed up to a fashion forum didn't I), but that doesn't mean I'm different from any other man (I'm not a metro).
Some people are more passionate and emotional than others.
Some are just vain. [/b][/quote]
Well I personally wasnt suggesting that. The point of this topic is to discuss how others wrongly assume fashionable young men, to be fashionable young gay men et cetera. I dont think there is anyone here who actually asserts from a 'metro' the assumed guilts of repressed sexuality. I personally don't understand how its taken men so long to fall for the charm of fabric. Perhaps the average man is susceptible to more than just colour-blindness

 

[purplelucrezia]

I think it has a great deal to do with societal pressures. Clothing has traditionally been assosiated with women, in terms of vanity as well as the desire to attract a mate. However, males should also be able to appreciate clothing and costume, which I believe to be essentially a form of visual arts. I personally feel that an appreciation for fashion is similar to an appreciation for art. As seen by the great male artists of history, the male gender should be equally capable of enjoying and creating this art form. Also, I feel that we only harm ourselves by labelling people, regardly of their gender or sexual preferences.