Muse #20 : Lindsay Lohan by Yu Tsai, Abbey Lee by Kadel & Claudia S by Jonas Bresnan

[scratchBOOK]

 

[fashionismydrug]

I feel like this shoot doesnt belong in MUSE at all and is waaay more fit for PURPLE.

Comparing the Vogue 1994 shoot to this one in MUSE, the MUSE shoot is vulgar. Lindsay doesn't evoke Kate's sexy-but-coolness. She just looks out of it...and used.

 

[Deleted member 116957]

This thread is just going to get better and better as more and more from that editorial is released, isn't it?

 

[lamies022]

Um no.
I can't see this as "art" or as any sort of career revival (in fact those who see it as such are either just delusional or unquestioning fans). But seriously, how do you go from a brilliant issue with Natasha Poly to this... It is really beyond comprehension.

 

[ad041715]

^ lmao

Everything is so trashy and sleazy. The editorial and the cover (that's a whole other story). Why would they want to expand on Lindsay's sl*tty image?
They're just fueling the perception we (and the rest of America) have of her. If anything, they should have put her in an elegant editorial (or at least 'artsy') with elegant clothing, to promote a "positive" image, instead of having her bent down being rode on like a horse by a half naked man.

Just saying

 

[lawaldorf]

^ Yeah, Lindsay looking clean and elegant would be more of a shock factor. Right now she's just proving her critics and doubters right--that she's legitimizing this hazy phase and it doesn't matter that she works because she'll do anything to be talked about.

 

[Harumi]

It's quite interesting to hear from Lindsay's super fans (not specifically here, I'm talking in general) raving about these pictures of a young girl looking wretched beyond her years and obviously exploited (even if the shoot was her idea, it's not like she is making cool decisions while sober these days) and saying they love her and support her.
If they did, they would feel sorry and worry for her, not applaud her all the way down. Imo, that kind of 'fans' are no better than the parasites and enablers who surround her.

Yes, Lindsay will be around for some time: she will be on the cover of tabloids involved in some sleazy scandal, she will post more incoherent tweets that will be discussed in internet forums, she will have more public fights with her family, she will pose for more trashy photoshoots for cynical photographers who knows a freak-show sell well, she'll have a breakdown or two, etc. But infamy and fame are too different things.

The latest batch of pictures is the worst yet. Lyndsay looks in control? Are you kidding? She looks like she has been slipped GHB.

 

[Thefrenchy]

^ Couldn't have said it better myself, karma

That picture of her and Petey in #80... How could one say she looks in control? I mean, come on now... It looks like he's taking advantage of a drunk/drugged out girl. This shoot really is all kind of trashy (plus, who smokes on a bed while making out? )...

To those who said that this show how relevant she is today: she is NOT relevant. She's a train wreck and people have that sick obsession of liking to watch someone destroying himself/herself. People clearly take advantage of her and of her situation and I hope she understands it. This shoot (=they hope to sell more mags by featuring her in a trashy shoot. They sort of bring to life what we suppose her life is when she's not in front of the cameras) and the fact they she got hired at Ungaro clearly prove it. And when we'll be sick of seeing her, she'll disappear.

 

[Bert Berlin]

To those who said that this show how relevant she is today: she is NOT relevant.

She's been getting magazine covers and spreads left and right. As well as a ton of job opportunities. I don't know what your definition of relevancy is. But according to Merriam Webster- she's as relevant as any other a-list celebrity if not more.

And when we'll be sick of seeing her, she'll disappear.

Supposedly you all have been sick of her for the past 3 years... But guess what? She's still here



On another note. This is a PHOTO SHOOT. There's models. There's a set. There are props. It's set up. I can think of two editorials, similar to this, at the top of my head. One featuring Masha Novoselova and another featuring Lara Stone. This is an art piece. She may not lead the healthiest life style and I wish she'd clean up and get better, but at the end of the day, this isn't real.

 

[candlebougie]

When is the magazine going to be released? Can't wait to see the contents (apart from Lindsay's main editorial).

 

[RobbyR]

Just a thought... I think a lot of the criticism is stemming from people's dislike of Lindsay's lifestyle and reputation. The shoot itself, the actual photos I think will turn out to be very good photography. Now Kate Moss or Carolyn Winberg (name any fashion model)... who does a racy photoshoot is usually praised for their artistic portrayal of nudity. So unless you are one of the fashion reviewers that are against all nudity in photography, period... you can't be critical of this shoot just because it contains nudity.

Well, on the other hand. Holding a cigarette in this photo is kinda cheap (and I do smoke). And the cover text "Lindsay Exposed" is kinda an exploitation. And a third, and final criticism of this shoot... Lindsay cannot portray Kate Moss. Done as an admiration for Kate Moss is ok with me.. but saying this is Lindsay's portrayal or recreation of a Kate Moss shoot is just wrong... but this could be the medias' misinterpretation of the photographer's intention.

I am not a supporter of Lindsay Lohan in general, but compared to other celebrities that go half-naked as a career booster, but always draw the limit that they cover up the naughty bits (selling sex without the sex)... at least Lindsay doesn't limit herself.

 

[candlebougie]

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[candlebougie]

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[elsaskywalker]

What The HELL!!?!
Ugliest, cheapest, edito of the year! How tacky are those pictures, appart from making her look like a drug addict, i don't get it! Poor girl...

 

[sethii]

This is not good photography. Where is the composition? Lighting? All I see are random shots she could have taken herself, cheap photoshopping, plus that awful folded paper effect. But I wouldn't entirely blame the photographer. Lindsay is infamously erratic on set, turns up late and is disruptive.

 

[Thefrenchy]

She's been getting magazine covers and spreads left and right. As well as a ton of job opportunities. I don't know what your definition of relevancy is. But according to Merriam Webster- she's as relevant as any other a-list celebrity if not more.

There's a difference between being relevant because people admit that you're talented; and getting jobs and publicity because you're a train-wreck and people are fascinated by you fail. And this is proved by her latest photoshoots. Here is another example:

LINDSAYLOHANSOURCE

What do you see? A cleaned-up professional? And "That's just a photoshoot"? Yeah, right... Everybody knows it reflects what her life is today. Here's an extract from her Sunday Times article:
"The room looks like the aftermath of one of those home-alone teen parties advertised on Facebook that then gets horribly out of hand. Chaos rules. Designer clothes are strewn everywhere; most of them from a sweep of the Emanuel Ungaro boutique that Lohan made upon her arrival in Paris, walking away with an estimated £90,000 worth of free clothes. Shoes, make-up, jewellery, even a stray lampshade obscure the hotel carpet. Her passport is in here somewhere. She’s been looking for it for days."

Still just for photoshoots... ?

 

[[Piece Of Me]]

It's Lindsay, so ofcourse 95% of this forum is going to be negative about it. Even if it was the best photoshoot ever, people would still slag her off. I'm a massive Lindsay fan and it gets a bit annoying to read all the negative comments over and over again. Ofcourse you don't have to like her, but just slagging her off for the sake of it is not necessary.

I really like the shoot, not just because it's Lindsay, but I like the concept.

 

[elsaskywalker]

I don't like the shoot not because it's Lindsay but because it's something i can't appreciate to watch.
Making her look like that won't help her carrier to re-start and i think it's quite humiliating to make this girl look so vulgar and trashy. Really what the point???

 

[TheCheekyCritic]

Just a thought... I think a lot of the criticism is stemming from people's dislike of Lindsay's lifestyle and reputation. The shoot itself, the actual photos I think will turn out to be very good photography. Now Kate Moss or Carolyn Winberg (name any fashion model)... who does a racy photoshoot is usually praised for their artistic portrayal of nudity. So unless you are one of the fashion reviewers that are against all nudity in photography, period... you can't be critical of this shoot just because it contains nudity.

I have to disagree, though. The fact that it is Lindsay Lohan as opposed to say, Kate Moss that's been photographed for this editorial inevitably brings an additional, inescapable element to both the ed and this discussion. Lohan is after all, a celebrity persona first and foremost, not a professional model to whom this kind of a shoot could've (if not should've) been just "a day in the life" *, and as a celebrity persona she is as scandal-ridden as she is disliked. The fact that her lifestyle and reputation is what it is inevitably results in parallels being drawn -- after all, it can hardly be a coincidence that a) Muse chose Lindsay for this particular editorial, and b) Lindsay signed on to do it. Because of who she is, her public image and how easy it is to see this ed as a reflection of it, it is nigh impossible for anyone, partial or impartial, to not bring her into the discussion.

*) By this I mean to say that the posing, expressions etc. could have been less sleazy had this been offered to someone with real and extensive modeling credentials rather than Lindz. Of course, it is possible, even likely that Lindsay was directed to pose and appear the way she has here, but the point I'm trying to make is that it's probably more or less how Lindsay would've done this shoot anyway, with or without such instructions.

That said, having read all the posts in this thread (it's been endlessly interesting!) I'd say a lot of people's criticism is still very much warranted. I don't think the fact that some of it is directed as Lindsay should provide grounds for dismissing it, though of course some of the comments also inevitably stem from a sheer (dis)like of her rather than this particular ed, which isn't that constructive. But even if you don't dislike her and don't want to comment on her, only the tastelessness of this shoot, you can hardly do so without mentioning her name. (Though the fact that some can and do interpret this as commentary on Lindsay as well says imho a lot about her -- but then I confess I do dislike her.)

Now I'm someone who doesn't get excited about nude photography, especially in a fashion magazine, where I, personally, feel it doesn't belong. I generally don't oppose it when it is tastefully done however, and at least seems to serve a purpose; it's just something that never appeals to me. But considering the level of salaciousness and in-your-face references to various themes here, I don't understand the need for and supposed relevance of this ed -- simply put, the 'why'. The more photos I see from this shoot the less inappropriate it feels to me. Where's the artistic justification; the stylistic artfulness, the social commentary, or any message really? It just doesn't belong. Also, I'd like to point out how contrived Lindsay's expression is in many of these shots. Had this shoot been done by someone else, we might've at least had better photos, though I would've found the concept and resulting photos repugnant regardless.

That's all I have to say, really. Finally, this comment as a whole wasn't really directed at RobbyR (whom I quoted) or anyone else in particular. I just like to elaborate on what I'm trying to say.

I write too much.

 

[RobbyR]

The more photos I see from this shoot the less [in]appropriate it feels to me.

I think you meant to say "less appropriate".

I am starting to agree more with your statement. Now I see a) two of the images are taken in front of the toilet b) look at every photo, she is holding a cigarette in every photo!

Well I was choosing not to judge before seeing the complete shoot, but now I do "get it" why there is so much negative comments regarding this shoot. Another model, or another celebrity might have changed the whole scope of this shoot. Maybe they wanted trashy, maybe that's why Lindsay was picked, or maybe she actually made it MORE trashy.

Would like to see original shoot by Kate Moss... again.