Perfect Magazine Issue #8.5 2025 : Kim Kardashian by Steven Klein

Why this hate on Tesla?
Im a small town brazilian gay, and to have and never will have access to this kind of tech so i dont even bother to know
Because of it's founder, Elon Musk. He became Trump's right hand. He has a whole shady web of relations with Putin/Russians.

And he turned twitter into a n*zi incubator.
 
Because of it's founder, Elon Musk. He became Trump's right hand. He has a whole shady web of relations with Putin/Russians.

And he turned twitter into a n*zi incubator.

i actively dislike Elon for multiple reasons but unless you're being conspiratorial, what exactly is the hard evidence of a connection between him and Russia? Teslas aren't even sold in Russia, Starlink has been used in Ukraine since 2022 for civilian and military purposes (offensive and defensive, resulting in many many Russian casualties), at reduced cost subsidised by the USG and SpaceX. and SpaceX deeply undercuts Roscosmos (Russian state space program) in commercial satellite launches, reducing their revenue sources...
 
i actively dislike Elon for multiple reasons but unless you're being conspiratorial, what exactly is the hard evidence of a connection between him and Russia? Teslas aren't even sold in Russia, Starlink has been used in Ukraine since 2022 for civilian and military purposes (offensive and defensive, resulting in many many Russian casualties), at reduced cost subsidised by the USG and SpaceX. and SpaceX deeply undercuts Roscosmos (Russian state space program) in commercial satellite launches, reducing their revenue sources...

 


This isn't hard evidence - it's MSM conjecture. The article states that Musk and Putin spoke about multiple topics, and the author doesn't provide a transcript of their conversation to verify their claims. Hard evidence is starlink being used by frontline ukrainian troops and ukrainian drone operators to kill russian soldiers and strike russian infrastructure targets - this speaks louder than random articles without direct sources/proof. If they're clandestine allies, directly aiding the opposing side is a strange way to express their cooperation.

The second article states that Musk and Putin are somehow weakening European democracies (apparently by offering support to the non-incumbent candidate, which you could argue strengthens democracy by levelling the playing field which typically favours the incumbent) - this is a vast topic but I would suggest that Western democracies are doing a good enough job of weakening themselves - when the position of politicians can be directly influenced by lobbying/donations and election results can be cancelled because the wrong candidate won (Romania), it's certainly not democracy in the sense of the result of elections and actions of politicians reflecting the people's will.

Anyway, just my 2 cents. I have no interest in a political debate - enjoy your weekend
 
If Musk and Putin want to hang out together for a friday night's booze, spent hours on the phone chit-chatting about the weather or send loveletters to each other, it's close to none of my business. But one thing that seems hard to overlook is how they promote some similar views on politics and a "vision" of how society should look like. Musk actively supports this, even overseas etc. And no matter any longer if he didn't invent anything of his own and makes benefits from other people's creativity, today Musk and Tesla can't be considered separate things.

No one will make me believe someone like Katie Grand isn't aware of this, or too stupid not to know what she's doing. If she's getting short of provocative ideas or whatever of this kind, she may just stop for a while instead of throwing this crap at out eyes.

I've been liking a lot of stuff she's been involved in, even when I found some of her choices (aesthetics, topics, characters) rather dubious. I could appreciate her work or things in her magazine that would seem tacky, cheap, grotesque as long as it was made with a touch of class and a twist, with some spark. It was nowhere close to this. Never.

Also when Meisel (for Vogue Italia) would, every now and then, use some controversial topics as the subject of an editorial, it usually raised questions, made you think twice. You could consider he would glamorize the wrong thing, feel disturbed, but you were questioning yourself when you had the magazine in your hands. Here : it doesn't raise any question at all. It's properly appaling to the point the only question left is shall we get really worried from now on when any kind of attention-seeking person feels like 'normal' to compromise with people like Musk and use lightheartedly any kind of symbol related to him and his "friends".
 
i actively dislike Elon for multiple reasons but unless you're being conspiratorial, what exactly is the hard evidence of a connection between him and Russia? Teslas aren't even sold in Russia, Starlink has been used in Ukraine since 2022 for civilian and military purposes (offensive and defensive, resulting in many many Russian casualties), at reduced cost subsidised by the USG and SpaceX. and SpaceX deeply undercuts Roscosmos (Russian state space program) in commercial satellite launches, reducing their revenue sources...
Probably because he is considered a bad billionaire unlike those "good ones" that are endorsed by mainstream liberals even though I despise all of them.
 
Tesla's sponsorship (or whatever it is) doesn't bother me. Today it is Katie being funded by Musk, another time it was Carine doing a show in Quatar and getting money from them. Fashion has never been an industry driven by morality or higher values. What I care about is the end product and it's not good.
 
This cover story is getting plenty of attention from broader audiences who don't even know they're part of a magazine spread and many people seem to be under the impression Kim was paid off or somehow "forced" by higher powers (Elon/Donald) to produce these, literally after the White House lawn car show the other day, to try and boost Tesla's image. As if this wasn't produced, in all likelihood, when Tesla stock was still at or near an all-time high, just two months ago. Kim probably was only too happy with the association at the time. Her politics might not be so different from Caitlyn's. And if she was doing anyone a favor it was probably Kimbal Musk, not Elon 😉

Just an annoyance. Not that it matters too much why or when it came to be, just that it did. I know Klein likes a hard, dystopian aesthetic and the cyber truck fits right into that. The results are hideous, none of these entities are producing anything particularly good/noteworthy these days. Tired, evil spon-con.

very "it's a big club and you ain't in it" vibes
 
Wait I have been of socials… do people really think she’d be forced to do this by the higher ups ? She IS the higher ups
 
well, "forced" might be a stretch, but doing the bidding of Musk/D*nald, yes
 

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