Phoebe Philo - Designer

[tourbillions]

i think no one has really accepted the row prices but at the same time theres no interested for their clothes for people to want it to be at a cheaper price range. im not even sure if there are non-americans who don't find the need to namedrop their clothing is even interested at the row at all.

 

[90sfan]

I don’t understand the hate toward current Phoebe Philo. I’m far from being a fan of her, but if people rarely complain about the pricing of The Row, then why isn’t Phoebe shown the same level of tolerance? Do you expect her brand to be as successful as Tom Ford label or sth? Her brand is 100% fan service and very niche in a way, no one’s forcing you to like it.

No one likes it, darling. No one hates it either. Love/hate is usually for really amazing designers/designs, not so much for the blah.

 

[90sfan]

To who?

To my mother, my dog, and clowns.

 

[90sfan]

this is an interesting opinion!
Please could you elaborate why her designs are less and less desirable? It’s not sarcasm I would genuinely love to know more about your opinion !!
Because to me personally her designs are very comfortable and easy to wear . I don’t think they’re timeless or inject anything new to the fashion design but I think that this was her purpose initially with her namesake brand

Zara is also comfortable and easy to wear. But it’s not good design. Ok, exaggerated here, but you know what i mean… “comfortable” and “easy to wear” is probably DSquared too, but it’s utter trash. Lol

 

[Deleted member 164735]

Zara is also comfortable and easy to wear. But it’s not good design. Ok, exaggerated here, but you know what i mean… “comfortable” and “easy to wear” is probably DSquared too, but it’s utter trash. Lol

I totally know what you mean! Good point!
But in terms of a luxury brand nowadays I can only think of The Row that is similar to PP right now, not even Loro Piana because their designs are sometimes complex. but Phoebes brand offers a veryyyyy simple ready to wear product that is easy to wear and also doesnt require you to be a size -0
Plus shes staying true to her design language and girlies eat it up lol

 

[dodencebt]

I was browsing through her rack at Dover Street Market in Paris yesterday for the first time and I have to say the quality and fabrics were really great but not that different from many luxury pieces to justify the exorbitant price. To me this feels like an exercise in brand and legacy because you can absolutely find similar clothes, new or vintage, for a fraction of what PP sells for.

 

[tricotineacetat]

My answer to that is simple - Her proportions lean towards the unpleasant stratosphere of tailoring alao favored by a few of her colleagues, such as Nicolas Ghesquiere, Anthony Vaccarello, The Row and Demna.

I understand the need for more relaxed cuts as a reaction to the shrunk-fitted tailoring of the 2000s and we have seen people like Hedi Slimane gradually loosening up his suiting at Celine, but on the other end of the spectrum there are people like Phoebe who think it‘s a good look to propose a men‘s suit jacket that could be my dad‘s from the early 90ies with a slightly more nipped waist and think that‘s a good look for the average woman - People like Yohji Yamamoto or Christophe Lemaire have done better takes on 'boyfriend tailoring' if we‘re being honest.

For a designer who proposes relatively minimalist clothes like Phoebe Philo, I don‘t think her clothes really nail it as the last word in investment purchases - Which I think echos in the very identity of the brand, which doesn‘t read neither as decidedly timeless luxury, nor fashion-forward.

 

[Frederic01]

Why on the earth are these pants $5372 AUD? They're not even silk, they're viscose! Have they lost their minds completely?!


PHOEBE PHILO

 

[Monsieur Cristobal]

It is a lot, more than 3.000 €.

Since The Row got inspired by Phoebe's designs, maybe Phoebe is now getting inspired by The Row prices, who knows.

 

[PDFSD]

Why on the earth are these pants $5372 AUD? They're not even silk, they're viscose! Have they lost their minds completely?!

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in euro its € 1.500 and is average designer pants nothing special she use same factory as top luxury brands ...
prada has chino for € 1350 and canvas cargo for € 1800 and its some not made in Italy even ....

 

[Monsieur Cristobal]

It is a lot, more than 3.000 €.

Since The Row got inspired by Phoebe's designs, maybe Phoebe is now getting inspired by The Row prices, who knows.

The price in Europe is the one indicated by PDFSD, but when Australia imports goods, they tax them. That is why it is so expensive.

They say Australians don't care about Fashion, and no wonder.
With those prices I would also go all the time in leggings.

 

[tourbillions]

all can be bought from bershka for disposable style and cos for a bit better quality.

 

[hamburgers]

Why on the earth are these pants $5372 AUD? They're not even silk, they're viscose! Have they lost their minds completely?!

This is either a mistake or an import exception, APAC pricing should roughly only be 10% more than EU

 

[Abby Zacky]

After her some comeback collection, i think its overrated, not so good as we hope, sorry

 

[Phuel]

My answer to that is simple - Her proportions lean towards the unpleasant stratosphere of tailoring alao favored by a few of her colleagues, such as Nicolas Ghesquiere, Anthony Vaccarello, The Row and Demna.

I understand the need for more relaxed cuts as a reaction to the shrunk-fitted tailoring of the 2000s and we have seen people like Hedi Slimane gradually loosening up his suiting at Celine, but on the other end of the spectrum there are people like Phoebe who think it‘s a good look to propose a men‘s suit jacket that could be my dad‘s from the early 90ies with a slightly more nipped waist and think that‘s a good look for the average woman - People like Yohji Yamamoto or Christophe Lemaire have done better takes on 'boyfriend tailoring' if we‘re being honest.

For a designer who proposes relatively minimalist clothes like Phoebe Philo, I don‘t think her clothes really nail it as the last word in investment purchases - Which I think echos in the very identity of the brand, which doesn‘t read neither as decidedly timeless luxury, nor fashion-forward.

They’re modern wardrobe staples at best. Every single offering from the Phoebe Philo brand looks like a diffusion line design next to her Celine. There’s not a single design that hasn’t already been offered elsewhere, or a more stripped down version from her Celine. That’s not a necessarily bad thing, as these are the days of bare and minimum effort designs for a premium price. Her suiting is her weakest points, as they are just wholesale 90s designs. But that Phoebe Philo label instantly sells such a prestige. I'll give her that.

None of these brands are worth the retail pricepoints. When suitings and leather jackets are each averaging close to $10,000USD, it’s ridiculous and just comes down to a consumer flexing money-is-no-object. Pricepoints aside, nothing these days is made to the couture-level of design and craftsmanship of 20 years an ago. But if people are willing to pay that exorbitant pricepoint for her brand, why would she even consider lowering her pricepoint??? I’d raise the pricepoint if I were her LOOL No one needs any of these designers and their wears. (People crying that Chanel is raising their prices on their bags again are just addicts: No one need a Chanel bag. And frankly, I hope they keep raising their prices because there will always bee enough addicts to keep Chanel profiting. Just don’t buy it if it’s too much. None of these are needed or worth it. It’s like Susan Morrow in Nocturnal Animals says of the art that she represents: "It’s all junk…”)

 

[BPaula]

Honestly don't understand why they're trying to make that Binx Tshirt happen. Makes you look more like a walking billboard than an allover logo design.

And what is even more: You can't look at Binx while wearing it! So what's the point? I would have to stay in front of a mirror when wearing this shirt.