Pierpaolo Piccioli - Designer, Creative Director of Balenciaga

[bc collector]

The same way that RAF didn’t when he took over Dior or even MGC and PPP who were first accessories designers before the Valentino HC SS2009 collection

And how did Raf do at Dior?
And do you remember the first two collections PPP and MGC did at Valentino?
It's not that if you do rtw you CAN'T do couture, it's just that having couture experience under your belt might help if you are going to join the house of the one who shut down his couture operations because he could not stand the rise of rtw.
Being a classically trained designer for you just means a fashion academy degree but maybe, seeing what Demna reduced Balenciaga to, we are allowed to raise the bar of such requirements.

 

[HigthaVandah]

Classical training doesn't guarantee a classical oeuvre.

 

[Cocteau Stone]

Okay wait… so Michele is at Valentino, Demna is at Gucci and now PPP is at Balenciaga, with Sarah at Givenchy. What was the point of moving all these designers around again? It’s like saying the same words just in a slightly different font.

I’m bored. I’m tired. I don’t really care. And I also feel like we saw enough Balenciaga odes and codes at his Valentino. Good for him and good luck I guess, but what was point. To fool people into thinking Kering is making big changes and rejuvenating their brands when really it’s just the same all around? Pathetic.

 

[Lola701]

And how did Raf do at Dior?
And do you remember the first two collections PPP and MGC did at Valentino?
It's not that if you do rtw you CAN'T do couture, it's just that having couture experience under your belt might help if you are going to join the house of the one who shut down his couture operations because he could not stand the rise of rtw.
Being a classically trained designer for you just means a fashion academy degree but maybe, seeing what Demna reduced Balenciaga to, we are allowed to raise the bar of such requirements.

Im just talking about technique here.
Jacquemus for example is not equiped to do Couture. Rousteing, while classically trained has showed his limits (over-design/too ambitious).
Alexis Mabille who is classically trained, has always done Couture, cannot design a decent collection to save himself.

My issue with Demna has more to do with his aesthetic than his techniques. He can cut a mean suit but Balenciaga Couture was just a bunch of reproductions from Cristobal and some attempt to elevate his basic interpretation of streetwear.

 

[Olaffo]

Who’s Pier Paolo Piccioli?

 

[FelipeV]

I'm BORED.

 

[yslforever]

A CD with couture experience can see immediately how their vision can be physically rendered, through which technic, or they can also choose or narrow the choice of fabrics. It's not easy, there can be large differences on the end result, even with very similar fabrics, like charmeuse or crepe.
So it probably improves their initial sketch, design and demand.

All the couture atelier (including people from Yves’ atelier) are still there at the Balenciaga atelier Copping led.
So, even if I dislike PPP’s design, I know what the atelier is capable.
The only silver lining of his appointment imho is I know he will respect and use this atelier.
Anthony would have been lost in a couture atelier

 

[FashionPower]

balenciaga team are a bunch off rave/wannabe hipsters that just came back from berlin berghain club raving all weekend i doubt many want to even design under PPP lol totally different office culture.

but PPP like to be cool if balencia team leave it mostly not because he fired them they left because they find him cringe

i seen some team member already liking post that speak critical /sceptical of PPP coming there but these ones are safe they are going to gucci any ways lol

Also, is Yvan going to leave Valentino to follow PPP? Is he in good relationship with Lallo or is there already beef between the two similar to the Alessia Pellarini / Kim Jones situation? That's the real question that needs to be answered.
I also wonder if PPP is gonna show couture twice per year or only once per year like Demna and now Lallo (lazy)

 

[FashionPower]

People bashing PPP for lack of accessories merchandise vision while Valentino, after 1 year PPP left, is currently cashing on:
- Loco bag: probably their second best seller bag ever after the Rockstud line (designed by PPP team)
- VLNT sneakers: Best seller menswear (designed by PPP team)
- Open sneakers: Best seller menswear (designed by PPP team)
He's Not Maria Grazia, but not terrible either.
How many Best sellers accessories did Valentino release under Lallo's appointment? ZERO! No one is buying either the Celine triomphe copy with V logo hardware and the book tote copy with V logo leather embossment...in the boutiques the only items selling are lace stockings and cheap brass earrings. Lallo's Valentino is currently a total commercial flop.

 

[Creative]

PPP is a refined Marchesa. You can’t say more about him. And he’s gonna lead one of the best houses in the world.

 

[Phuel]

I'm BORED.

That’s because PPP is BBB: Basic. Bland. Boring. Pretty tho. Eh.

 

[Alquimista]

He needs to butch up his menswear, or the clients will run away.

 

[jeanclaude]

Even for me, Yves, Lacroix, Dries, Haider and PPP are the best colorists in fashion! (Btw if someone knons other desiger so good in with colore please mention it ‘cause it will be very helpful! Thanks 🌟)

Charles James

 

[chalayan]

Even for me, Yves, Lacroix, Dries, Haider and PPP are the best colorists in fashion! (Btw if someone knons other desiger so good in with colore please mention it ‘cause it will be very helpful! Thanks 🌟)

lacroix and galliano are probably the best colourists in fashion.

 

[oioioi]

you know that's @mutterlein right?

Really? I remember seeing some of his posts but think they have deleted their account recently.
When I first came across lewismag I thought it was really good unbiased critical dissection of branding and collections, then I quickly realised if the brand is not Lemaire, Uniqlo U/C, The Row, Halston, Calvin Klein, 1920's, Armani, Romeo Gigli it is considered trashy for them.

 

[tricotineacetat]

The ship in

Really? I remember seeing some of his posts but think they have deleted their account recently.
When I first came across lewismag I thought it was really good unbiased critical dissection of branding and collections, then I quickly realised if the brand is not Lemaire, Uniqlo U/C, The Row, Halston, Calvin Klein, 1920's, Armani, Romeo Gigli it is considered trashy for them.

I’ve had the debatable pleasure to exchange myself with him in private over the years and let’s just say he turned into quite the narrow-minded snob and where he was before just having a very considered and articulate point of view that I appreciated hearing from on this very forum.

I’m not sure where the bitterness came from but it was very tiring to debate with him over meaningless criticism on designers he made a fuss about - So much so that he blocked me on Instagram for nothing, really.