Pierpaolo Piccioli - Designer, Creative Director of Balenciaga

[chungkyekye]

i totally get what you're saying but lately with all the new debuts going on, i look back wonder whether things were really as bad as they were made up to be and i felt the need to rationalise and wonder if i really gave them a fair chance.

regarding the brand signature colours mentioned like tiffany blue, hermes orange - i get where u were coming from but i looked at it from more of a trend angle and those mentioned are so part of the established brand identity so they can't really enter the 'trend' category.

ancora red definitely flopped but from my angle and area (but i'm not in forecasting) - the pink and lime green trickled down incredibly effectively during the time and throughout many ranges until i (or maybe just me?) couldnt escape from them when you looked at buys and it resonated in some sort of way (although its might not be as strong as bottega green). but i think where i'm coming from is while the brands themselves might not have fully reaped the 'benefits' (sales) i definitely see all the parties that did in the wider ecosystem - maybe i wasnt clear enough

in terms of the actual fashions they are putting out - well it was what it is but and i don't feel that strongly about them - they are just 'there.' i'm trying to take a more balanced approach

 

[Monsieur Cristobal]

Sabato, whose oeuvre as a designer is quite average, was given a stellar opportunity for two years and it didn't work.
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Now, what can make me cry is that a brilliant mind like Patrick van Om. has been working in the shadows for 25 years or that Theyskens is not doing Dior.

 

[Lola701]

Sabato, whose oeuvre as a designer is quite average, was given a stellar opportunity for two years and it didn't work.
Clap if you care 🤣

Now, what can make me cry is that a brilliant mind like Patrick van Om. has been working in the shadows for 25 years or that Theyskens is not doing Dior.

Some designers may not like what comes with being the CD of a big brand.
For me Patrick would be great at a smaller brand as a CD or as a design director at a big one.

Do I want this kind of designers at a giant brand where you would have to put products that you may not necessarily like or believe in just because you have to respond to a commercial need?

Ancora is such a weird case. In retrospective, I think that his debut collection was his best collection. And I’m starting to believe that he was much more unsure of his vision than his cockiness in interviews suggested.
The look with the chunky blue sweater, the jeans and the burgundy slingbacks is the look that stuck on my mind.

I can totally respect something that I don’t like if there’s a vision in it, which means a sense of consistency, confidence and cohesion. I don’t need to like something to recognize that it’s well done.

I find MiuMiu mediocre nowadays tbh but you can’t deny that there’s a vision. It’s a pity that their fashion has become merch but at least it’s coherent.

I wonder where Ancora is going next btw.

 

[jeanclaude]

The only thing I remember about our dearest Sabato is him dancing backstage, while wearing a cheap-looking GUCCI t-shirt.

 

[PDFSD]

Some designers may not like what comes with being the CD of a big brand.
For me Patrick would be great at a smaller brand as a CD or as a design director at a big one.

Do I want this kind of designers at a giant brand where you would have to put products that you may not necessarily like or believe in just because you have to respond to a commercial need?

Ancora is such a weird case. In retrospective, I think that his debut collection was his best collection. And I’m starting to believe that he was much more unsure of his vision than his cockiness in interviews suggested.
The look with the chunky blue sweater, the jeans and the burgundy slingbacks is the look that stuck on my mind.

I can totally respect something that I don’t like if there’s a vision in it, which means a sense of consistency, confidence and cohesion. I don’t need to like something to recognize that it’s well done.

I find MiuMiu mediocre nowadays tbh but you can’t deny that there’s a vision. It’s a pity that their fashion has become merch but at least it’s coherent.

I wonder where Ancora is going next btw.

true only one observation Miu Miu always had merch always had very commercial items the base of the items always had a simplicity to them , even when styled odd , i think what people notice now is the preppy items are more and there is the logo now on everything .....but miu miu clothes where always very flat industrial made and simple instore post collections even more.

she likes that brutalist in clothes making something that is industrially made by multiple prada has it as well , bertelli is a factory guy he pride himself on his they pride themselves on how fast they can decide making something last minute.

prada is a brutally commercial company miuccia said it already she wants to speak to the world not a small elite thats too easy and she is bored by that .

 

[Caffeine]

true only one observation Miu Miu always had merch always had very commercial items the base of the items always had a simplicity to them , even when styled odd , i think what people notice now is the preppy items are more and there is the logo now on everything .....but miu miu clothes where always very flat industrial made and simple instore post collections even more.

she likes that brutalist in clothes making something that is industrially made by multiple prada has it as well , bertelli is a factory guy he pride himself on his they pride themselves on how fast they can decide making something last minute.

prada is a brutally commercial company miuccia said it already she wants to speak to the world not a small elite thats too easy and she is bored by that .

but her price suggests otherwise

 

[PDFSD]

but her price suggests otherwise

the world does not mean she morphed into the red cross 😚

its about speaking not to just a (small) niche audience, but doing something that's niche that can be understood or liked by many (rich people ) that's her challenge she mentioned.