Preventative Skincare?

[peachee]

What are your recommendations for preventative face and body skincare products? I'm in my 20's and am starting to notice a difference in my forehead (worry lines) and eyelids. Thanks all!

 

[deer_st0p]

Sunblock.
You can use all the wrinkle creams/exfoliators you want, but if you aren't protected from the sun it is all wasted time.

 

[rayoflight]

Oh yes! Sunscreen, sunscreen, sunscreen. And antioxidants, whatever floats your boat, vitamin C, kinetin, resveratrol, Q10, alpha lipolic acid, ferulic acid, vitamin E or something form the huge array of plant extract things...

 

[ladylaser21]

Sunscreen definitely.

Also, botox or dysport will help with the dynamic lines so that they don't turn into static lines. Often times, individuals in their late 20's and 30's will start this.

Another good product to use is Retin-A. Now there are generic RX available (tretinoin) so it is much cheaper then it used to be. You would need a prescription from your doctor. But a topical retinoid helps increase the cell turnover and helps with small lines in wrinkles by improving the collagen in your skin. Don't expect anything dramatic, but it is a good maintence cream that I use at night. Start with a low concentration however, because you will peel a bit and get red when you start (start with tretinoin 0.025% instead of 0.05% or 0.1%). With time, you can work your way up.

 

[fashionified]

hmm i was also thinking about the same thing. i don't have problem with my skin, but i want it's condition to last! *a lot of people said i look younger than i actually am, and i wish that to continue* LOLZ

does any of you know a good product for maintenance? the ones that's being suggested here are either a little bit too extreme, or not working for me =/ i have a mix skin condition, a bit dry but it's oily too *i know it's weird* and sunscreen made it worse =/

 

[Georgi]

Oh yes! Sunscreen, sunscreen, sunscreen. And antioxidants, whatever floats your boat, vitamin C, kinetin, resveratrol, Q10, alpha lipolic acid, ferulic acid, vitamin E or something form the huge array of plant extract things...

Absolutely sunscreen! Preferable something with zinc oxide that is broad spectrum and stable. Devita is my current fave - isnt ghostly white once absorbed and has nice light texture. Moisturizing to make up for the drying of the zinc.

Next: L-ascorbic acid serum like skinceuticals CE ferulic or an easily made knock off.

 

[cup-of-tea]

Sunscreen totallyy! I like Olay Complete lotion.

And antioxidant serums can help a lot too, as someone else suggested Skinceuticas and also Estee Lauder Advanced Night Repair.

 

[daniellat]

Im almost 25 and have pretty much great skin, slightly oily but I have that covered now with a lotion I started using two years ago. Dont wear sunscreen tbh, but I dont spend much time in the sun, I dont tan and ALWAYS wear sunnies outside but lately I have some little lines under my eyes that weren´t there last year I swear! They are obviously little aging lines and im practically freaking out, they are tiny but they weren´t there before.


I want to use some anti aging cream or serum that won´t break the bank, but Im not sure what to buy.

 

[Rova]

I think it helps a lot to avoid getting eye bags or any puffiness around the eye area. It can prevent lines.
I use Lumene Vitamin C+ Anti-Puffiness Roll-on Eye Serum and it works well if I apply before going to bed and when I wake up.

To me puffy eyes does not feel normal since I never had anything like it before. It has to do with ageing since the skin is weakened, but I still think it has to do with lifestyle in my case.
Some days I spend with my computer while my mother is out walking her dog. Her eye area looks fine So moving your body helps I guess.

I've read that if you don't drink enough water the body retains water, but at the same time drinking too much before going to bed wasn't god for avoiding eye bags either.
I find that helpful and my eyes feel and look better in the morning when I don't drink a lot of tea before going to bed.

Oh, and I sleep with my head high. I really dislike the feeling of waking up with swollen eyes...

 

[ellastica]

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[Andielee]

skincare and exfoliation is the key to great skin! try asap range they are fantastic.

 

[SabrinaNicole]

A good diet will help you in addition to skin care. Use Retin-a & sunscreen and eat well.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-21GP_umiDY

 

[The_Ida]

^I'd say don't use Retin-A. That is really somewhat of a last resort IMO, it is way too harsh for most people.

Sunscreen is the only thing that will prevent ageing.

That vid is too funny! Is she serious?

 

[rayoflight]

^I'd say don't use Retin-A. That is really somewhat of a last resort IMO, it is way too harsh for most people.

Sunscreen is the only thing that will prevent ageing.

That vid is too funny! Is she serious?

Accutane (isotretinoin) capsules are last resort (both acne and photoaging). Most derms I've asked say that at least, and like 90% of them agree that some form of retinoind at night is something that can help slow down aging. It's very true for me, I've tried 4 retinoids (adapalene, retinaldehyde, retinol and tretinoin) and they all work 100 times better than anything else topical skin care has to offer, including all the fancy cosmeceutical and hi-tech brands, but it takes a while to find one that works for each individual skin. Well, for me tretinoin has made huge difference on how my skin looks and feels, I went through a period when my skin was quite sensitive and pillows would hurt me, but nowadays my skin has become stronger, thicker and more resilient. Since it comes it so many vehicles, cream, gel, microgel, rich creme and in strengths from 0.01-0.1% there is something in for everybody, not to mention other forms of retinoids. I'm willing to bet my breakfast that 0.05% retinaldehyde 2-3x a week works even for most fragile skins. And it takes a really good specialist and/or lots of research on how to make it work for skin, with the application, wait times, buffering, frequency of use and how it takes months to see results. So worth it Imo. Many people think they are oh so smart and want instant gratification, so they put a dollop on every night and then complain how Retin-A ruined/burned/mutilated their skin. Yea, right. (no, I'm not paid by pharma industry to advertise the stuff, lol)

I don't fully trust sunscreens either (and the standards that regulate them are too low Imo), and there is some research that shows they protect only against like 55% of UV rays (could be true, could depend on the sunscreen, since there are thousands out there). The rest still reaches skin. Fact is, no sunscreen guards skin from 100% of sun's rays. Imo sun avoidance in the peak hours is more sensible from anti-aging perspective, combined with a good broad-spectrum, photo-stable sunscreen applied in sufficient amount at all times, rain or sunshine.

That plus 3 more things, antioxidants for AM and PM, anti-inflammatory product and skin barrier repair stuff. Is really simple really. Unless skin needs some extra, like blackhead or pigmentation treatments.

 

[The_Ida]

I don't fully trust sunscreens either (and the standards that regulate them are too low Imo), and there is some research that shows they protect only against like 55% of UV rays (could be true, could depend on the sunscreen, since there are thousands out there). The rest still reaches skin. Fact is, no sunscreen guards skin from 100% of sun's rays. Imo sun avoidance in the peak hours is more sensible from anti-aging perspective, combined with a good broad-spectrum, photo-stable sunscreen applied in sufficient amount at all times, rain or sunshine.

Of course some of the UV rays reach the skin, I don't think you've fully understood the concept of the number behind the SPF...? No sunscreen should absorb 100% of the UV rays, we still need them, remember?

cancer.dk

% of UV rays reaching the skin, SPF

The source is the Danish cancer research foundation, hopefully my future employer

There are a number of risks involved in taken retin-a supplements, esp as a woman you should beware so I personally wouldn't do it.

 

[rayoflight]

Noooo. I mean the Pinnell research Skinceuticals uses to base their sun protection products on (sure, biased and all, but there is some truth in that), which says sunscreens only block 55% of the ROS created from UV rays, not the SPF vs UVB % chart.
There is more to that anyway, since it's dated and comes from the 80-90s when scientists were unaware of implications from UVA rays and sunscreens didn't protect from those. SPF refers to UVB rays only and SPF has nothing to do the UVA rays which are measured by PPD index in EU since the mid-00s. That depends greatly on which filters a sunscreen uses, since they all have different UV protection ranges, like octocrylene only keeps out UVB and UVA-II till 230-350 nm on the scale. Even using 5% octocrylene alone, which gives aprox. SPF 30, depending on the formula, does not offer any protection against UVA-I, even though it will keep out approx. 98-99% UVB rays and skin wont burn it will still age. 3% Avobenzone won't have SPF since it doesn't work in UVB range but in UVA-I and UVA-II, Avo will however have PPD number which is more important for anti-aging purposes.
Bla bla bla, long story short, this is also interesting:
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1128750/
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1070981/

And I was talking about topical retinoinds, not Accutane capsules, which is hardly a supplement and requires written agreement signed and pregnancy tests for women. With topical retinoinds the birth defects correlation is not fully established, but since it's better to be safe than sorry, similar rules for contraception and patient education goes for things like topical tretinoin as well.

 

[miu_miu]

That plus 3 more things, antioxidants for AM and PM, anti-inflammatory product and skin barrier repair stuff. Is really simple really. Unless skin needs some extra, like blackhead or pigmentation treatments.

rayoflight, i'd be interested in what your recommendations for anti-inflammatory & skin barrier repair products are?

 

[rayoflight]

rayoflight, i'd be interested in what your recommendations for anti-inflammatory & skin barrier repair products are?

It's very fancy names, all comes down to ingredients and concentration, like something with green tea, niacinamide, D-panthenol, oat exacts (think Avenoo) in various forms and things like that are very soothing. Replenix Power of Three cream has a very high concentration of EGCG, is very soothing and has supposed anti-aging benefits due to the green tea and resveratrol and has quite a few other soothing ingredients.
My total favorite however is Skinceuticals Phyto Corrective Gel, it's like the anti-irritant, antiseptic, moisturizing and pigment suppressing serum (less post-breakout redness) all in one bottle, which is great for my breakout prone skin since it's a lightweight gel.

For skin barrier straightening niacinamide and ceramides are my personal favorites, but it's no exactly easy to find lots of skin care with them in. Olay has one cream that has niacinamide in higher dose, but it's not a good cream for me, and I'm told La Roche-Posay products have ceramides, but I can't find which ones. Most things in a cream do help with barrier repair on some level anyway, whether it's shea butter, squalane, lanonin, cholesterol or some other oil. Just the simple task of finding one that works for *your* skin, although La Roche-Posay Toleriane is a great starting point. La Roche also claims it's soothing, so that's practically a 2-in-1. It's kinda rich in silicones and that doesn't float everybody's boat though, but they have different moisturizers in that Toleriane line, I'm loving Toleriane Fluid, which has 8 ingredients in total, no extra stuff and sinks into skin within seconds. Don't shoot me, but I also like pure 100% vaseline on my skin from time to time, it certainly works for me.

Reducing irritating stuff that comes in contact with skin helps a lot, like maybe switching to low or non foaming cleansers, because it's just just sulphates/SLS that dry skin out and the highly foaming stuff does not necessarily clean better. Also minimizing fragranced/perfumed skin care has improved my skin heaps. Same for getting a water filter if you've got hard water, is better not just for skin, but hair as well. Have to get to know your skin and what it likes and doesn't like.

 

[The_Ida]

Noooo. I mean the Pinnell research Skinceuticals uses to base their sun protection products on (sure, biased and all, but there is some truth in that), which says sunscreens only block 55% of the ROS created from UV rays, not the SPF vs UVB % chart.
There is more to that anyway, since it's dated and comes from the 80-90s when scientists were unaware of implications from UVA rays and sunscreens didn't protect from those. SPF refers to UVB rays only and SPF has nothing to do the UVA rays which are measured by PPD index in EU since the mid-00s.

In Denmark SPF refers to both UVA and UVB. I don't know (or care) much about the legislation in other countries...except for Australia. They take the matter seriously, and they conduct much more thorough research than in other countries I really wish the Danish board of health would wake up, skin cancer is the most common form of cancer in DK yet nobody seems to give a crap. Baffles the mind.

 

[rayoflight]

Then it's different in Denmark, altho I dunno why you guys decided to forgo EU recommendations on that one.
So does that mean that if I were to buy a sunscreen in Denmark there would be no PPD rating, no stars no UVA seal on it? Just the SPF and that's it? Is this all not legally binding in any way in Denmark?

http://www.cosmeticsdesign-europe.c...-tightens-labelling-regulation-for-sunscreens