Yeah but you were a stylist once no? I'm betting that you've developed a certain eye for things, even it's totally crazy it'll be done in a way that's stylish....not in a way that you need to take two yellow pills and a blue pill a day.
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yes, down with the little fabric labels..May I join you in that! I think these brands are trying to be IT so hard that it's quite tragic. That includes the people wearing them.tristan said:
I'm actually sick of anything that's 'reinvented vintage' by which I mean vintage clothing with a few pics and paint put on it, a new label on it and then sold at a premium price. That's not designing, yet they act like the next Galliano. I understand Softgrey's points on this and agree with Lena that young (real) designers need the support and should get paid accordingly. Luckily there is a crowd of fashion lovers that spend their money on those (the more innovative/museum crowd if you like to typecast).
I also never understood how somebody could call a brand 'Buddhist Punk' and think it will stay in business for a long time, the name alone is made to last just a few seasons.
I like all the points that have been raised. I agree with Softgrey that it seems somehow "right" that younger designers would charge less, I think a lot of people are willing to shell out a little more money on a brand they feel has a good reputation for style and quality. That being said, I think once a brand is very established and built up a reputation, they can get lazy, cut corners, and it can really show in the quality of their pieces. Personally, if I like the way something looks, and I feel it fits well, flatters me and I could make it a real part of my wardrobe, I'll buy it. If I can see something is shoddily made, well I don't really see the point buying it.
P.S I was just wondering if I'd spelt your name right Softgrey, since I know your profile thing says you are in NYC, so I checked it, and don't you usually spell grey as gray? Just curious as to how that happened?
P.S I was just wondering if I'd spelt your name right Softgrey, since I know your profile thing says you are in NYC, so I checked it, and don't you usually spell grey as gray? Just curious as to how that happened?
You don't know how happy it makes me to read that!Lena,
So how much are we talking on the skirts that were so expensive to make, no one would buy them? How much did they truly cost to make? And how much were you charging? Without some real figures, it doesn't mean much to me, ya know?
p.s. I also totally prefer "grey" over "gray".
So how much are we talking on the skirts that were so expensive to make, no one would buy them? How much did they truly cost to make? And how much were you charging? Without some real figures, it doesn't mean much to me, ya know?
p.s. I also totally prefer "grey" over "gray".
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Sooo agree on the Grey vs Gray...Gray is a cheaper version of grey that charges the same price. I really dislike reworked vintage too, only because I know I can do that myself without much trouble, it's easy to do, and is soooo in your face that people always comment on it. But a well tailored pair of pants, god I'll pay large amounts of money for that, it really impresses me when new designers can turn out classic-ish collections, rather than hipster wear.
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this is ann example of the kind of stuff i'm seeing in stores at what i think are outrageous prices for clothing that i really don't think merits the prices being asked...
http://www.redthreds.com/main.html
http://www.redthreds.com/main.html
Well, I think the price is what the customer would pay in general. No one is making the prices based only in the cost of materials or producing. Imo, the prices just show who one addresses one's clothes to.
When you buy clothes, you are paying mostly for functionality:-)) But in designer level, it is for design, quality, uniqueness and prestige, just counting :-)
So I think established companies usually charge more for their establishment. And they have loyal clients that will pay for that.
IMO it is difficult for smaller or new designers to charge as much as long-time companies do. But you do have different clients, who is looking for new ideas, freshness of design and more "intimate relations" with the designers.
But there are new "designers" who want to make fast money. And designers who love fashion and are developing her or his own fashion universe more carefully. Hope that they will be there around for many years:-)
When you buy clothes, you are paying mostly for functionality:-)) But in designer level, it is for design, quality, uniqueness and prestige, just counting :-)
So I think established companies usually charge more for their establishment. And they have loyal clients that will pay for that.
IMO it is difficult for smaller or new designers to charge as much as long-time companies do. But you do have different clients, who is looking for new ideas, freshness of design and more "intimate relations" with the designers.
But there are new "designers" who want to make fast money. And designers who love fashion and are developing her or his own fashion universe more carefully. Hope that they will be there around for many years:-)
Anyone?AlexN said:Lena,
So how much are we talking on the skirts that were so expensive to make, no one would buy them? How much did they truly cost to make? And how much were you charging? Without some real figures, it doesn't mean much to me, ya know?
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I think a new designer overall shouldn't charge as much as an established powerhouse, because it could alienate potential customers...also with up-and-comers it seems it's not as much like with some of the big corporation labels like Dior and Prada where it's pure business, and they can use their status as a luxury name to charge more. I mean I know newcomers have to eat too, but sometimes it's too much.
Unless the up and comer is trying to establish a reputation as being an exclusive label.. Like Libertine for example, while I admire the pieces I was thinking some of the prices were insane...a regular cotton t-shirt with a Libertine print on it cost like $210, and it wasn't even superb quality or anything. People with deconstruction/tailoring skills (like our very own purechris, for example) can come up with similar pieces for a much smaller fraction of the price. Sometimes I don't really see the justification in pricing like this.
Unless the up and comer is trying to establish a reputation as being an exclusive label.. Like Libertine for example, while I admire the pieces I was thinking some of the prices were insane...a regular cotton t-shirt with a Libertine print on it cost like $210, and it wasn't even superb quality or anything. People with deconstruction/tailoring skills (like our very own purechris, for example) can come up with similar pieces for a much smaller fraction of the price. Sometimes I don't really see the justification in pricing like this.
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