Saint Laurent S/S 2024 by David Sims

She is the diva! She is fabulous and timeless!
Would have loved to see her in a suit.

It’s a pity to have her only for resort but it works. Marketing budget well used at YSL.

Is it me or David Sims portraits looks like a serie? I would be surprised to see an exhibition of his celebrity portraits for Vaccarello’s YSL in the future.
 
Absolutely 110% here for a living legend like Diana Ross becoming the face of Saint Laurent. What a surprise! The campaign image itself is fabulous, something simple and tasteful like this is all an icon like Diana Ross requires. Very keen to see more...
When was the last time Miss Ross appeared in a high-fashion ad campaign?

I think she did some with The Supremes in the 60’s?
 
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The Supreme Miss Ross in Custom Tom Ford for YSL Rive Gauche. 😝
For a collection where the entire soundtrack was her repertoire…

When was the last time Miss Ross appeared in a high-fashion ad campaign?

I think she did some with The Supremes in the 60’s?
It’s so surprising she never appeared on campaigns despite being a great supporter of fashion (the same can be said about Tracee)!
I remember she was at one Galliano for Dior show too in the mid 00’s.

She is ageless!
 
For a collection where the entire soundtrack was her repertoire…


It’s so surprising she never appeared on campaigns despite being a great supporter of fashion (the same can be said about Tracee)!
I remember she was at one Galliano for Dior show too in the mid 00’s.

She is ageless!
Speaking,

I just finished watching Mahogany!
 
She is the diva! She is fabulous and timeless!
Would have loved to see her in a suit.

It’s a pity to have her only for resort but it works. Marketing budget well used at YSL.

Is it me or David Sims portraits looks like a serie? I would be surprised to see an exhibition of his celebrity portraits for Vaccarello’s YSL in the future.
Does Anthony knows where he is going to 😝
 
For a collection where the entire soundtrack was her repertoire…


It’s so surprising she never appeared on campaigns despite being a great supporter of fashion (the same can be said about Tracee)!
I remember she was at one Galliano for Dior show too in the mid 00’s.

She is ageless!
Especially since she also photographed like a model. Very surprising that some of the most stunning and fashion forward legends never appeared in any major high fashion work.

Diana Ross, Janet Jackson, Tina Turner who only got a Vogue Germany cover at 73, Whitney Houston,
 
Especially since she also photographed like a model. Very surprising that some of the most stunning and fashion forward legends never appeared in any major high fashion work.

Diana Ross, Janet Jackson, Tina Turner who only got a Vogue Germany cover at 73, Whitney Houston,
I think we have been so used to the Celebrities / HF brands thing that we forget that it’s actually a quite recent phenomenon. When back in the days celebrities were associated with designers it was through a friendship of mutual admiration or just being a client or part of the same social circle. In the late 70’s a perfume contract became the first thing that cemented that lucrative pairing but I think the Italians were really the first to have Celebrities on their Fashion ads.

But what was interesting was that back then celebrities had a much closer relationship with fashion than today. Tina Turner had a personal relationship Azzedine and Giorgio but also Peter Lindbergh!

But we also have to remember that models were such stars during the prime of those women. Whitney wasn’t a fashion girl despite having been a model. She did Harper’s Bazaar but I don’t think that before the Dolce & Gabbana collaboration, people though about her persona being mixed with fashion.


What I think is great about Vaccarello is that while it’s purely a viral moment kind of situation, it may inspire older women to buy Saint Laurent.
 
Especially since she also photographed like a model. Very surprising that some of the most stunning and fashion forward legends never appeared in any major high fashion work.

Diana Ross, Janet Jackson, Tina Turner who only got a Vogue Germany cover at 73, Whitney Houston,
Of course, they were all Black. Even models of color in the 60s, 70s, 80s, etc. were limited in the kind and amount of work they got. Pam Grier and Diahann Carroll, are other absolutely gorgeous Black actresses who were ignored by the fashion industry, but there are many others.
 
I think we have been so used to the Celebrities / HF brands thing that we forget that it’s actually a quite recent phenomenon. When back in the days celebrities were associated with designers it was through a friendship of mutual admiration or just being a client or part of the same social circle. In the late 70’s a perfume contract became the first thing that cemented that lucrative pairing but I think the Italians were really the first to have Celebrities on their Fashion ads.

But what was interesting was that back then celebrities had a much closer relationship with fashion than today. Tina Turner had a personal relationship Azzedine and Giorgio but also Peter Lindbergh!

But we also have to remember that models were such stars during the prime of those women. Whitney wasn’t a fashion girl despite having been a model. She did Harper’s Bazaar but I don’t think that before the Dolce & Gabbana collaboration, people though about her persona being mixed with fashion.


What I think is great about Vaccarello is that while it’s purely a viral moment kind of situation, it may inspire older women to buy Saint Laurent.

Absolutely.

And let’s not forget that during the 1980s, to be so publicly associated with fashion/designers as to be the ambassador for their brand was oftentimes looked down upon by “serious” musicians/artists/actors. Hubert may as well be Audrey’s husband with how close and loyal they were to one another; but she never was the official image of his label. People like Whitney and Janet were never into high fashion anyway, so this false narrative insinuated that because they were Balck, that they were somehow barred from fashion is so disingenuous, intellectually-dishonest and simply race-baiting.
 
Of course, they were all Black. Even models of color in the 60s, 70s, 80s, etc. were limited in the kind and amount of work they got. Pam Grier and Diahann Carroll, are other absolutely gorgeous Black actresses who were ignored by the fashion industry, but there are many others.
I think @Urban Stylin mentionned names that were personal to her but in the 60’s, 70’s, 80’s and a little bit in the 90’s, as @Phuel said, it wasn’t common for celebrities to have fashion contracts anyway.

Of course we can’t elude the racial question because it was an issue anyway in their actual field but the fashion aspect is almost separated.

If we wanna have an example of a black girl, who was an actress and very much linked to HF, I think about Grace Jones. And Miss Jones was a model first. So she was already embraced by the world of fashion which wasn’t an industry back then.

Grace Jones practically wore Alaïa in all her movie roles, she was a good Fendi customer, had great relationships with all the brands but brands back then based their marketing by being choose by actresses, not the way around. All commercials Grace Jones ever did were never fashion related.

Audrey never had a Givenchy contract. Stephane Audran, who was dressed by Karl for all her roles starting in 1973 never had a Chloe, Chanel, Fendi or Lagerfeld contract. Sofia Loren never had an Armani contract.

The world of fashion and the idea of entertainment at large was very different and separated back then. I imagine that it was even more different in the US.

And you others layers you have to take in consideration. When brands started giving beauty contracts, HF always choose actresses because of the prestige and the demography but more mainstream brands preferred singers because they talked to a younger demographic that could actually purchase the products. The other layer was that it was easier for a HF brand to control the image of an actress than a singer.

Today everything has changed because the younger demography is the actual consumer of everything.

And I also have to say that today, there are strategies and teams involved with talents who can really take opportunities and make something out of it.

I think someone like Halle Berry didn’t have a plan when she got her Oscar. Elie Saab became a household name thanks to her but Halle never nurtured the relationship. When she became the face of Versace, she didn’t nurtured the relationship either. Today there are actresses whom status is solely maintained though their connection to designers or brands.

And I’m talking about a big movie star. Actresses of series weren’t seen as A-list for a long time! And their movie careers never transcendent their tv roles. Diahann Carroll became famous worldwide with Dynasty but never had a worldwide exposure after that. Racism in Hollywood probably was the reason behind that but then it would have been difficult to reach the HF world in Europe anyway.

I saw Taraji P Henson raised the question « where was my contract? » during an interview. She didn’t have a good team/strategy.

But overall, we can’t judge the decisions of the past with the realities of today.
 
I think we have been so used to the Celebrities / HF brands thing that we forget that it’s actually a quite recent phenomenon. When back in the days celebrities were associated with designers it was through a friendship of mutual admiration or just being a client or part of the same social circle. In the late 70’s a perfume contract became the first thing that cemented that lucrative pairing but I think the Italians were really the first to have Celebrities on their Fashion ads.

But what was interesting was that back then celebrities had a much closer relationship with fashion than today. Tina Turner had a personal relationship Azzedine and Giorgio but also Peter Lindbergh!

But we also have to remember that models were such stars during the prime of those women. Whitney wasn’t a fashion girl despite having been a model. She did Harper’s Bazaar but I don’t think that before the Dolce & Gabbana collaboration, people though about her persona being mixed with fashion.


What I think is great about Vaccarello is that while it’s purely a viral moment kind of situation, it may inspire older women to buy Saint Laurent.

Agreed, though even today its shocking that legends like Viola Davis, Angela Bassett, Alicia Keys in her prime, again Janet Jackson(one of the most legendary female artistes of all time), Tracee Ellis, Gabrielle Union, Queen Latifah ( she has been the face of Cover Girl for ages), Beverly Johnson made history as the first black model on Vogue and never returned on the cover. Sorry thats a bit off topic. That said, the second shot is nice, i see more of her personality in it.
 
But overall, we can’t judge the decisions of the past with the realities of today.

Excellent reminder.

And let’s also remember that by the 1970s/1980s/1990s, musicians/artists had numerous music publications to promote their aesthetic and their image, and would feel their artistic integrity were damaged if they associated publicly with fashion, especially going so far as to be in some fashion designer’s campaign; that would be considered selling out to the frivolous fashion industry. It’s not like it is today, where dime-a-dozen hyped pop tarts are given magazine covers, bluechip campaigns and bestowed as an icon (LOL) not even a year into their careers. Madonna didn’t get an American Vogue cover until 5 years into her career. Whether that was her choice, or Vogue setting high standards back then, only Anna and Madonna knows. Not just different times. But also very different approach for artists and designers.

(Whitney was a model before finding success as a singer, as was Sade. But I always got the impression that their brief stint as models was only a stepping stone for them, and even had they been approached to be the face of some label after their musical successes, they would have declined; For artistic integrity. Grace is an anomaly: She never left high fashion and she was never a pop star: Her music was and is never pop. She maneuvered seamlessly between fashion, pop art and the club scene with such finesse that I always considered her a performance artist that flirted briefly and had her 15mins of fame with the mainstream. Although, I always wished Neneh Cherry and Jody Watley had associated more publicly with the fashion industry, of which again, likely were their choice. Just to see Neneh modelling for Gaultier in 1989 really showed what could have been: She was pure, unadulterated, concentrated muse. These were women, along with Diana, with a true sense of style that inspired and conspired with high fashion. While women like Whitney and Janet never had that high fashion sensibility nor fashion presence.)
 
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Especially since she also photographed like a model. Very surprising that some of the most stunning and fashion forward legends never appeared in any major high fashion work.

Diana Ross, Janet Jackson, Tina Turner who only got a Vogue Germany cover at 73, Whitney Houston,
f*ck em.

Miss Ross is laughing supremely all the way to the bank with her successful singing and acting career.
 
Excellent reminder.

And let’s also remember that by the 1970s/1980s/1990s, musicians/artists had numerous music publications to promote their aesthetic and their image, and would feel their artistic integrity were damaged if they associated publicly with fashion, especially going so far as to be in some fashion designer’s campaign; that would be considered selling out to the frivolous fashion industry. It’s not like it is today, where dime-a-dozen hyped pop tarts are given magazine covers, bluechip campaigns and bestowed as an icon (LOL) not even a year into their careers. Madonna didn’t get an American Vogue cover until 5 years into her career. Whether that was her choice, or Vogue setting high standards back then, only Anna and Madonna knows. Not just different times. But also very different approach for artists and designers.

(Whitney was a model before finding success as a singer, as was Sade. But I always got the impression that their brief stint as models was only a stepping stone for them, and even had they been approached to be the face of some label after their musical successes, they would have declined; For artistic integrity. Grace is an anomaly: She never left high fashion and she was never a pop star: Her music was and is never pop. She maneuvered seamlessly between fashion, pop art and the club scene with such finesse that I always considered her a performance artist that flirted briefly and had her 15mins of fame with the mainstream. Although, I always wished Neneh Cherry and Jody Watley had associated more publicly with the fashion industry, of which again, likely were their choice. Just to see Neneh modelling for Gaultier in 1989 really showed what could have been: She was pure, unadulterated, concentrated muse. These were women, along with Diana, with a true sense of style that inspired and conspired with high fashion. While women like Whitney and Janet never had that high fashion sensibility nor fashion presence.)
Mariah didn’t even have a Vogue cover.

Total injustice
 

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