Sean Combs Clothing Used 'sweatshop'

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Rights Group: Sean Combs Clothing Used 'Sweatshop'
Tue Oct 28, 7:11 PM ET


By Chris Reese

NEW YORK (Reuters) - Workers' rights activists said on Tuesday that hip-hop music and fashion entrepreneur Sean Combs' trendy clothing line used a "sweatshop" in Honduras where women sew expensive garments for pitifully low pay.


Combs called a news conference to say he was "shocked"(yeah right!:rolleyes:) at the revelations and promised an investigation that would have "zero tolerance" for any labor law violations in factories producing his Sean John clothing line.


Factory managers cursed at workers, refused to pay overtime, fired them when they became pregnant and blocked efforts to form a union, the New York-based National Labor Committee said at their own news briefing.


The group said it believed Combs, who performs as "P. Diddy" and became one of hip hop's most successful stars as "Puff Daddy," may not have known what his suppliers were doing.


Combs said he grew up among working people and appreciates their struggle. "I'm as pro-worker as they get," said Combs, elegantly dressed in an off-white linen suit.


"We are shocked at this information," said Combs, who said his company's compliance officer had made five inspections of the plant this year. "We are launching an investigation into this matter, and if there is any proof of wrongdoing, we will terminate our relationship with this factory immediately."


Former factory worker Lydda Eli Gonzalez, 19, told reporters through outside a Sean John clothing store to be opened next Spring on Fifth Avenue that she was dismissed after 13 months for speaking out.


"The supervisors go around every hour, every day, every second screaming at us," she said. "The women who were there were not allowed to look at each other. You go in with black hair and come out with red hair or whatever color shirt you are working on. You breathe this dust, you have no protection."


"This is a fixable problem, and if he fixes it, P. Diddy can be a hero," committee leader Charles Kernaghan said.


Over the past eight years, Kernaghan has targeted several big names in the garment industry, including U.S. TV presenter Kathie Lee Gifford (news), The Gap and Liz Claiborne for using "sweatshops" in Central America.


In a report on Southeast Textiles factory in Choloma, Honduras, Kernaghan's group said between 380 and 400 workers earned only 15 cents for sewing Sean Jean long sleeved T-shirts that sold for $40 in the United States.


I'm sorry but not knowing this was going on--you can't make me believe that! I mean,for someone who says he is so involved he should have known where everything was going to and coming from. I suppose though,that's what happened when you have so much money,start a clothing business without knowing much about it except for wearing it. I hope it goes under. I'm sick of him and the narcissistic idea that he's brilliant.
 
right on scott* I find it sickening when people use swet shops wether tehy know it or not ( not to mention even if he did not know he should have been more involved). : :(
 
Has anyone read Fashion Victim by Michelle Lee? It's an interesing read on the fashion industry and has quite a lot of info on sweatshops and what constitutes one. The bottom line? Unless you're buying couture, somewhere along the line, (buttons, fabric, assembly, trim, etc.) your clothing passed through some version of a sweatshop. There's a reason why H&M can sell you a trendy top for $7.00. I think it's a book worth reading and it covers a lot more than sweatshops.
 
Originally posted by tealady@Nov 1st, 2003 - 2:12 pm
The bottom line? Unless you're buying couture, somewhere along the line, (buttons, fabric, assembly, trim, etc.) your clothing passed through some version of a sweatshop.
is taht really true? even if it is made in the USA or europe?

check out

http://www.americanapparel.net/ its sweat shop free made in los angeles
 
Originally posted by Spacemiu+Nov 1st, 2003 - 8:01 pm--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Spacemiu @ Nov 1st, 2003 - 8:01 pm)</div><div class='quotemain'><!--QuoteBegin-tealady@Nov 1st, 2003 - 2:12 pm
The bottom line? Unless you're buying couture, somewhere along the line, (buttons, fabric, assembly, trim, etc.) your clothing passed through some version of a sweatshop.
is taht really true? even if it is made in the USA or europe?

check out

http://www.americanapparel.net/ its sweat shop free made in los angeles[/b][/quote]
Great link! :flower: Of course, there are a couple of exceptions. The point is that you have to really work to find them. Just walking into your average store is not enough. Also, even when something is marked "Made in the USA." you have to explore what that means. It doesn't have to mean that all parts of the outfit or the fabric are made in the USA. It might just be assembled in the USA...
 
Originally posted by tealady@Nov 1st, 2003 - 4:12 pm
Has anyone read Fashion Victim by Michelle Lee? It's an interesing read on the fashion industry and has quite a lot of info on sweatshops and what constitutes one. The bottom line? Unless you're buying couture, somewhere along the line, (buttons, fabric, assembly, trim, etc.) your clothing passed through some version of a sweatshop. There's a reason why H&M can sell you a trendy top for $7.00. I think it's a book worth reading and it covers a lot more than sweatshops.

I haven't read the book yet, but I will pick it up, thanks to your comments and reccomendation.

So sad and I'm glad that its still being brought to the forefront. I think designers and the people that run these fashion houses should be held accountable. Know whose sewing up your stuff and or assembling it is my motto. It really saddens me to think that these people aren't paid anything to sit in a factory or warehouse for 10 to 15 hours a day. :cry:
 
Great, I'll be interested to hear your comments. After you read it, why not start a discussion about it?
 
Originally posted by tealady+Nov 1st, 2003 - 8:06 pm--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(tealady @ Nov 1st, 2003 - 8:06 pm)</div><div class='quotemain'>
Originally posted by Spacemiu@Nov 1st, 2003 - 8:01 pm
<!--QuoteBegin-tealady
@Nov 1st, 2003 - 2:12 pm
The bottom line? Unless you're buying couture, somewhere along the line, (buttons, fabric, assembly, trim, etc.) your clothing passed through some version of a sweatshop.

is taht really true? even if it is made in the USA or europe?

check out

http://www.americanapparel.net/ its sweat shop free made in los angeles
Great link! :flower: Of course, there are a couple of exceptions. The point is that you have to really work to find them. Just walking into your average store is not enough. Also, even when something is marked "Made in the USA." you have to explore what that means. It doesn't have to mean that all parts of the outfit or the fabric are made in the USA. It might just be assembled in the USA... [/b][/quote]
But don't you think that mostly applies and happens with big corporate companies and designers like a Tommy Hilfiger,for example,or like you said,H&M?

I mean,sweatshop manufacturing would be quite expensive for young independent designers. Yes,even though they promote slavery,those sweatshops are actually quite expensive. What's more,independents are on a completely different level than these,because they work in such a quiet scale they know full-detailed of the process their works are going through. And most times,they work with small scale manufacturers whose client base is rather limited and small usually within their own country. So I don't think you would have anything to worry about, Space.

Plus,I think you can see the difference in sewing when looking at one of these pieces from Sean Jean or looking at clothes at your local Wal-Mart. Usually,the contstruction is very plain as in the seam et al.
 
Originally posted by Scott@Nov 2nd, 2003 - 7:23 am

I mean,sweatshop manufacturing would be quite expensive for young independent designers. Yes,even though they promote slavery,those sweatshops are actually quite expensive. What's more,independents are on a completely different level than these,because they work in such a quiet scale they know full-detailed of the process their works are going through. And most times,they work with small scale manufacturers whose client base is rather limited and small usually within their own country. So I don't think you would have anything to worry about, Space.

I agree about younger independant deisgners, btu Im more worried about mroe esablished companie sthat produce wears in the US or europe, not nessicerilyd esigenrs. But yes I agree. :flower:
 
TEGUCIGALPA, Honduras (AP) - An inspection of a factory that produces a clothing line for rap music mogul Sean "P. Diddy" Combs did not uncover the kinds of labor abuses alleged by activists, the country's labor minister said.
Labor Minister German Leitzelar led a group of inspectors on a six-hour visit Thursday of the Southeast Textiles factory in Choloma, 120 miles north of Tegucigalpa.

"I think things have been overblown," Leitzelar told reporters afterward. "If there are any irregularities, they are not like what was contained in the accusations."
 
it Is very hard to control EVERY ANGLE even if its ur own business. sometimes people who work for you under contract can emloy other people... even sweatshops. so they make more gain. everything is possible these days :wacko:
 
(First timer posting, but long time lurking here....)
What is considered a "sweatshop"? I haven't read the whole report, but for the original poster quoted, it doesn't look like some bad management, that is easily fixed. Really, Latin America NEEDS jobs that required minimal technical skills, hence the tax incentives that the government promote to attract these companies. Yes, the labor laws are not the same as in US regarding discrimination or harrassement, but they also have laws that protect the employees: in most countries of this region, if there's a labor dispute, the Ministery of Labor will always (always) side with the employee, (I've seen cases of employees committing serious infractions, and to be able to fire the guy, you have to pay a severance with penalties and everything-sometimes, you have to hire the guy again, because you couldn't demonstrate the fault).

Again, I don't have all the details of the P Diddy whatever (and really don't care for him nor his clothes), but what scares me is that sometimes, this activism against sweatshops, or child labor, affects negatively the ones who were supposed to be protected in the first place.
 
Just to let you guys know, he/his company was cleared or all charges and allogations after an inspection :flower:
 
Originally posted by tealady@Nov 2nd, 2003 - 12:12 am
Unless you're buying couture, somewhere along the line, (buttons, fabric, assembly, trim, etc.) your clothing passed through some version of a sweatshop. There's a reason why H&M can sell you a trendy top for $7.00.
i absolutely agree with tealady, being in design myself, i believe the buttons or the zip manufacturer might be using sweatshops, there is no way to check where supplies get really manufactured, eg. i know that most supposedly 'made in Italy' fabrics are manufactured in India, then sold as a european product, in european prices.

it is only the small indie companies that cannot afford the lower prices of 'sweatshops' if one manufactures just a tiny production, sweatshops are simply not interested.

this activism against sweatshops, or child labor, affects negatively the ones who were supposed to be protected in the first place.

Sorry to dissagree with you here Mariposa.
There are absolute no excuses for blood fashion.
Child slavery & sweatshops are made 'legal' by those that keep those kids working for close to nothing.
Those that say that 'slaves' are glad to be 'slaving' are a bit out of sync.
Go ask those 6 year old kids if they enjoy slaving for our H&M -or our Gucci- goodies .. we should be ashamed really.
 
Then I don't know what is the meaning of sweatshop.
I've visited Free Zones in several countries in Central America and the Caribbean, and although their salaries are way, way, lower than their US counterparts, they do have similar safety conditions, -heck, sometimes, employers have to put 'penalties' in place because people did not want to use the protecting gear.

This opinion is only based on benchmarking HR matters with multinational and big national companies (I'm no manufacturing expert at all), so yes, you do have your good share of more than rude managers, but I really didn't see the systemic exploitation the media reflects.
 
OK, why is everyone acting so surprised, not only does Sean Combs participate in projects like this , the list goes on, HELLO!!!!!!, NIKE, ex: sell contracts up to 50 million to celebrities in the US to sell their product meanwhile only pay $.35 per hour in first degree countries,the list goes on... WALMART, MICROSOFT, ROSES delivered from Ecuador, the same ones you receive on valenties....read the book, THE GLOBAL TRAP, Sean really cant be doing anything wrong personally, really this people from those countries dont have employment, so its either poverty and no food on the table or work. Atleast he is employing human beings, and i believe that Sean Combs has alot of fashion industry people that are jealous of him. That will be the case for every Celebrity that will bring on their own line, Hilary Duff, Gwen Stafani, JLO. I believe anyone who is successful at what he or she is doing will one way or another have bad publicity. But then again so do other major label designers do the same. Everyone please think what you say before you start bad mouthing humans that atleast employ to the poverty.
 
just because it has happened or continues to doesnt indicate at all people should not speak out about it. it is not about employment - it is about human rights, child labor laws - simply because they are employed doesnt not mean sean is doing them a favor. the man makes millions and should ensure basic rights are being followed. you are right it happens all the time but the bad press is important because it gets these matters reconized ... i think the press, the attention, the topic should be talked about again and again... a quarter a day in an overheated factory is no way for a child to grow up. that is not living.
 
Originally posted by toocoolforyah@Nov 5th, 2003 - 2:42 am
At least he is employing human beings, and i believe that Sean Combs has alot of fashion industry people that are jealous of him.

...... Everyone please think what you say before you start bad mouthing humans that at least employ to the poverty.
:blink: It's your right to support slave labour toocoolforyah.
personally i'm tired of the unethical excuse "give them work and suck their blood" this is not the way to go.
I'd say "give them work and pay them full wages, respect their rights, stop modern slavery"
This is human beings employed in non-human conditions that we are discussing here . Believe me i'm not at all jealous of :sick: S.C. fashions or his so called success (we dont even sell his trash in europe)

Another problem is that jobs are flying out from western societies to the third world sweatshops, leaving thousands of unemployed people in the garment -and not only- industry. On the long run, its an economic boomerang that has already taken its roll on western economies. Look at the state of U.S. garment industry, the worst since Depression.

ps. whole villages are turning to sweatshops in Bulgaria, Romania, x-yugoslavia etc
and that's not even the third world, thats in Europe ok? we seem to be back to the middle ages, like a company 'owning' a whole small community that works exclusively for them getting payed close to nothing.. it's a bloody shame and should be stopped by international law.
 
Originally posted by Belowen@Nov 4th, 2003 - 1:02 am
Just to let you guys know, he/his company was cleared or all charges and allogations after an inspection :flower:
He probably paid them to keep their traps shut. :rolleyes:


Lena,I completely agree!!! :woot:
 

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