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Seasons-collections

thx purechris...interesting to hear from a buyer's perspective...i imagine it can be quite a challenge at times...especially these days...

alliecat...thanks for the input...so it's happening in asia as well... :unsure: the weather change, i mean...wow...you're right...it really is global...hmmm....

:innocent:
 
I definitely feel the absurdity of the weather in Toronto, I just didn't know it was a global thing. Last summer we had days when it was so cold (and rainy) that I had to wear a winter jacket, and just earlier this month (April) it was still snowing and there was ice on the ground! I don't know about global warming... it seems like Toronto is just getting colder and colder :cry:
 
I haven't noticed the seasons shifting their order or their months. It just seems they are blurring further together to make nearly all 12 months into a mild, rainy tedium.

They said global temperatures during the first 3 months of 2002, were higher than at any other time in the last millennium and that we should expect everyone to be flooded and further down the line, everything (campaign for more umbrellas on the runways :innocent: ).
But then if we're to believe the scientists saying changes in Atlantic ocean currents due to the warming could send much of Europe into a climate parallel to Alaska's, then it's not going to be warm warmth at all, though the 'thermohaline circulation' that would freeze us all is unlikely to ruin our lifetimes. Yah?

How much consideration of the weather is taken in by these collections anyway. There is always plenty unsuitable for the cold in their A/Ws and how do they deal with Australia being, two of our seasons or one of their seasons, ahead?

And good to know the fashion industry is doing it's part to burn the ozone hole: just imagine all the chlorofluorocarbons floating up from can after can of wasted hairspray.. :ninja:
 
Originally posted by strawberry daiquiri@Apr 23rd, 2004 - 11:26 am
I haven't noticed the seasons shifting their order or their months. It just seems they are blurring further together to make nearly all 12 months into a mild, rainy tedium.

They said global temperatures during the first 3 months of 2002, were higher than at any other time in the last millennium and that we should expect everyone to be flooded and further down the line, everything (campaign for more umbrellas on the runways :innocent: ).
But then if we're to believe the scientists saying changes in Atlantic ocean currents due to the warming could send much of Europe into a climate parallel to Alaska's, then it's not going to be warm warmth at all, though the 'thermohaline circulation' that would freeze us all is unlikely to ruin our lifetimes. Yah?

How much consideration of the weather is taken in by these collections anyway. There is always plenty unsuitable for the cold in their A/Ws and how do they deal with Australia being, two of our seasons or one of their seasons, ahead?

And good to know the fashion industry is doing it's part to burn the ozone hole: just imagine all the chlorofluorocarbons floating up from can after can of wasted hairspray.. :ninja:
:o :cry: strawberry's scaring me...are you sure it won't happen in our lifetimes...??
 
I think we're all safe, but sure softgrey you're grand either way once you stay on that side of the pond :P :heart:

The details and the long-term effects (more then 100 years) of these changes have so far only been explored by very few studies. One of these studies used a zonally averaged climate model, ( :wacko: ) and sadly shows that the thermohaline circulation not only reduces, but may shut-down completely under ''strong'' global warming with a fourfold increase of CO2 concentration within the next 140 years (and by then earth may be dust if some big guy has had his mind set and satisfied on playing with his dangerous toys).
 
Originally posted by strawberry daiquiri@Apr 23rd, 2004 - 5:26 pm
But then if we're to believe the scientists saying changes in Atlantic ocean currents due to the warming could send much of Europe into a climate parallel to Alaska's, then it's not going to be warm warmth at all, though the 'thermohaline circulation' that would freeze us all is unlikely to ruin our lifetimes. Yah?

And good to know the fashion industry is doing it's part to burn the ozone hole: just imagine all the chlorofluorocarbons floating up from can after can of wasted hairspray.. :ninja:
i've read about the 'ice age' theory strawberry, it sounds possible..
and yes, climate is not what it used to be in mediterrenean either.
we had too much >snow< this winter, plus for late April it should
be warmer.. on the other hand, winter came too late :wacko:

its very complicated and scary, but big industries dont care less,
they have a no-tomorrow attitude that makes the situation even
more ...scary :ninja:
 
Originally posted by Lena@Apr 24th, 2004 - 4:19 pm


its very complicated and scary, but big industries dont care less,
they have a no-tomorrow attitude that makes the situation even
more ...scary :ninja:
lena-i couldn't agree more... :blush: :ninja:
 
Originally posted by fuj+Apr 25th, 2004 - 7:00 am--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(fuj @ Apr 25th, 2004 - 7:00 am)</div><div class='quotemain'> <!--QuoteBegin-BeLLaJLo@Apr 23rd, 2004 - 7:57 pm
i think we should all make a point to watch 'The Day After Tomorrow'  :ninja:  :P  ;)

http://www.thedayaftertomorrowmovie.com/
the previews for that freak me out.

i don;t know what i'd do if my precious NYC went under :cry: [/b][/quote]
i've read something on this last night, seems spooky

since about two months now, i've been picking newsbits on the supposed
ice-age scenario, too many scientists have been discussing this for some .

and now it turned to..a film... :ninja:

here a longish article regarding the iceage/global warming debate from guardian uk
 
quote-"Andrew Weaver of the University of Victoria in British Columbia, Canada, described the film as the Towering Inferno of climate change and told New Scientist last week that 'it is safe to say that global warming will not lead to the onset of a new ice age'.

Weaver also noted the movie's budget 'would fund my entire research group for my entire life, 10 times over'. With funding like that, he added, he might even be able to say exactly what will happen to our climate in future. "

well, i didn't know about this movie, but i'm glad if it gets people thinking about global warming again...as faust says..isn't it funny how these problems seem to vanish the second the media stops reporting on them...thx for the link bellajlo...and thx for the article lena...
:flower:

the special effects for the movie look terrifying...i don't know if i could bear to watch it...but it helps knowing that it's very unlikely to actually happen...i wish they had spent some of that money on some research so that maybe we could know more about what is actually going to happen in the future... :unsure: :ninja:
:flower:
 
Well... firstable, you have to remember I'm in Costa Rica ...close to equator, so it's a tropical weather ..no four seasons in here ... just dry season (summer) and rainy season ("winter" -no snow, though-) ... in here the changes have been noticed from the late 80's ..there's this case in particular with an amphibian species.. let me explain ... amphibians are the best weather-change indicators due to the fact that they depend on key weather factors (such as humidity, etc...), the species I'm talking about is the golden frog, it's been extinct ever since late 80's and apparently twas due to the fact that the humidity levels changed slightly ...
Now ... I've witnessed how the dry season seems to extent to no end ... there was a time when we use to get daily showers (and the regular tropical storm season) ... now that's gone ... this country generates electricity mostly using hydroelectric plants ... and the rain levels have dropped with the subsequent energy "crisis" ...
About changing the seasons schedules for fashion shows and so ... well... I think they'll stick

PS. Here's a pick of the extinct golden frog
Sapodorado.jpg
 
Originally posted by blumarine@Apr 25th, 2004 - 10:52 pm
Well... firstable, you have to remember I'm in Costa Rica ...close to equator, so it's a tropical weather ..no four seasons in here ... just dry season (summer) and rainy season ("winter" -no snow, though-) ... in here the changes have been noticed from the late 80's ..there's this case in particular with an amphibian species.. let me explain ... amphibians are the best weather-change indicators due to the fact that they depend on key weather factors (such as humidity, etc...), the species I'm talking about is the golden frog, it's been extinct ever since late 80's and apparently twas due to the fact that the humidity levels changed slightly ...
Now ... I've witnessed how the dry season seems to extent to no end ... there was a time when we use to get daily showers (and the regular tropical storm season) ... now that's gone ... this country generates electricity mostly using hydroelectric plants ... and the rain levels have dropped with the subsequent energy "crisis" ...
About changing the seasons schedules for fashion shows and so ... well... I think they'll stick

PS. Here's a pick of the extinct golden frog
Sapodorado.jpg
that little frog is soooo cute...how sad that he/she and all its little brothers and sisters are all gone forever... :(

on the plus side... i've heard some people talking about the changing weather conditions in the past week...maybe it;s the trailers for the movie that's causing it...but i'm glad to hear people talking about because it means they're thinking about it...and i think that's a very good thing :flower: B)

thanks for all your feedback guys...so interesting to hear about what's going on in your neck of the woods...
 
i get hives thinking about global warming.

it is just terrible how many humans just don't care about the earth. :cry:
 
Just to present another perspective, "global warming" is both a simple and complicated issue. As far as actual science is concerned, the simple answer is that we don't know. The most reliable data shows little correlation. Comparative measurements when global warming first started making news were only based on recorded temperatures which in the grand scheme of things wasn't a long period. Every day as measuring tools and techniques have become more "accurate," we're seeing temperatures have not risen at all. Saying "we don't know" doesn't mean we shouldn't be concerned. But it also shouldn't mean we should assume the worst and pour resources (or limit resources) to combat it.

It's a complicated issue because many stakeholders have a lot to gain or lose. The EU for example has insisted on a 15% reduction in CO2 emmissions worldwide. Not only will this not effect the global climate (man-made emissions account for only 2%) but in terms of industry, the EU would have less to lose than the U.S. for example, because of technologies already in place.

Pollution and environmental r*ping suck. There's lots to do to make this a cleaner planet. However issues like "global warming" which may not exist and even if they do aren't malignant tend to overshadow real enviromental issues because the media doesn't do any research and green extremists (to their credit) can really rally around it to propel their true agendas of halting globalization of industry, cheap labor, etc.

Back to the main topic, as far as changing the seasonal collections, I think that's marketing and the nature of the business.
 
nytimes.com...excerpts...
In a Melting Trend, Less Arctic Ice to Go Around
By ANDREW C. REVKIN
Published: September 29, 2005

The floating cap of sea ice on the Arctic Ocean shrank this summer to what is probably its smallest size in at least a century of record keeping, continuing a trend toward less summer ice.
That shift is hard to explain without attributing it in part to human-caused global warming.



The findings are consistent with recent computer simulations showing that a buildup of smokestack and tailpipe emissions of greenhouse gases could lead to a profoundly transformed Arctic later this century, when much of the once ice-locked ocean would routinely become open water in summers.

Expanding areas of open water in the summer could be a boon to whales and cod stocks, and the ice retreat could create summertime shipping shortcuts between the Atlantic and the Pacific.

But a host of troubles lie ahead as well. One of the most important consequences of Arctic warming will be increased flows of meltwater and icebergs from glaciers and ice sheets, and thus an accelerated rise in sea levels, threatening coastal areas. The loss of sea ice could also hurt both polar bears and Eskimo seal hunters.


This summer was the fourth in a row with the ice cap areas sharply below the long-term average, said Mark C. Serreze, a senior scientist at the snow and ice center and a professor at the University of Colorado, Boulder.

Dr. Scambos said the consecutive reductions in the ice cap"make it pretty certain a long-term decline is under way."


"With all that dark open water, you start to see an increase in Arctic Ocean heat storage," Dr. Serreze said. "Come autumn and winter that makes it a lot harder to grow ice, and the next spring you're left with less and thinner ice. And it's easier to lose even more the next year."

The result, he said, is that the Arctic is "becoming a profoundly different place than we grew up thinking about."
 
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I agree, global warming is a HUGE problem.

As far as the marketing aspect, though, it's never made sense to me. Clothes ship to all climates at the same time, it seems. I also see things here that are completely impractical for our climate at almost any time of year. By the time it gets cold here, the sales are on & it's always been that way. I tend to buy full price anyway because I want what I want, and it doesn't elude everyone else what the best stuff is--unfortunately :p I've always wondered why retailers couldn't be a bit smarter about it. I wonder if third-world production isn't a big part of the problem ...

There also seems to be this attitude around fashion that taking customers' needs into account is declasse and not artistic. This seems like utter nonsense to me since fashion is WEARABLE ART, and if it's not wearable, it's 50% wrong already. There seems to be a great lack of focus on usability in the fashion world, to the point of disdain. I find this completely annoying.
 

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