The 'Outfit Look-Alikes' Thread

It's hilarious to say that Ralph Lauren isn't a copy. His entire image is a caricature of WASP and western American "culture" (lol). Come on... Not that he's not good at he does, but get real.
 
That's the thing, fashion is not architecture, clothes are not buildings, fashion designers are not architects ... Or movie directors. They're clothes makers.
So then we can’t really discuss if we don’t look at things from the same paradigm…

I see a fashion designer like an architect or a furniture designer. For me, Yves Saint Laurent, Pierre Paulin and Renzo Piano were doing the same thing: Design.

After, it’s a matter of scales and context but their designs were always informed and rooted in a deep understanding of the technical aspect of their fields, beyond aesthetic choices. And none of them are craftsman or handicrafts.

So, yes we don’t look at things from the same POV anyway.
 
I miss John doing true couture and I really miss McQueen. His process is still the most interesting to me. Since he was a tailor, he could tell amazing stories through draping and cutting. He was a real couturier.
As if both of them didn't copy and borrow from other designers lol. John's collections after CSM were heavily based on Yamamoto and Westwood, then he moved on to Vionnet and historical costumes. Even his recent couture collection for Margiela had Vionnet copies. All that doesn't make him any less genius.
 
That's the thing, fashion is not architecture, clothes are not buildings, fashion designers are not architects ... Or movie directors. They're clothes makers.

Armani is really an exception. There's close to nobody like him except for Ralph Lauren maybe. The two of them don't strike me as designers who copy. They seem to want to put their spine on everything.
I get what you're trying to say, but... it's all a matter of degrees. Not all architects are Frank Lloyd Wright. Not all directors are Ingmar Bergman. Not all designers are Vionnet. But that doesn't mean they can't try to be creative.
 
As if both of them didn't copy and borrow from other designers lol. John's collections after CSM were heavily based on Yamamoto and Westwood, then he moved on to Vionnet and historical costumes. Even his recent couture collection for Margiela had Vionnet copies. All that doesn't make him any less genius.
I also read somewhere that in the beginning of his career, Galliano was also very inspired by Moschino. I do not have access to 70s-80s collections of Moschino so i cannot validate it. but Jeremy Scott was also doing some 2000s Galliano references while at Moschino and I didn't know if he was referencing Galliano shows or Moschino archives....
 
So then we can’t really discuss if we don’t look at things from the same paradigm…

I see a fashion designer like an architect or a furniture designer. For me, Yves Saint Laurent, Pierre Paulin and Renzo Piano were doing the same thing: Design.

After, it’s a matter of scales and context but their designs were always informed and rooted in a deep understanding of the technical aspect of their fields, beyond aesthetic choices. And none of them are craftsman or handicrafts.

So, yes we don’t look at things from the same POV anyway.
When you put it like that, I really understand your point of view. It's very free. You're right, we don't have to limit our reference points, our role models, our icons, our inspiration. We can widen it as much we want.
 
ugh those early yohji/viv inspired collections were some of his best. fallen angels, afghanistan repudiates western ideals... his early deconstructed silhouettes were just gorgeous
For me, his spring 1994 collection was just magic...
 
For me, his spring 1994 collection was just magic...
despite it being a watershed show, i'm not in love with princess lucretia as much as most people are... i enjoy the narrative through-line and the bias cut sequence is delicious as always but it doesn't move me as much as the following collection (the sao schlumberger show), which was groundbreaking, or olivia and filibuster (spring '93), which was a historical fever dream. perhaps it was those giant telephone wire ballgowns which i found a bit sloppy/costumey lmao
 
despite it being a watershed show, i'm not in love with princess lucretia as much as most people are... i enjoy the narrative through-line and the bias cut sequence is delicious as always but it doesn't move me as much as the following collection (the sao schlumberger show), which was groundbreaking, or olivia and filibuster (spring '93), which was a historical fever dream. perhaps it was those giant telephone wire ballgowns which i found a bit sloppy/costumey lmao
I went to look at the collections again after reading your post. I realise I meant to say spring '93, not '94. Thank you for pointing me in the right direction. The Sao Schlumberger show was also great, as was the collection right after.
 
Givenchy SS2004 vs. Balenciaga SS 3013
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Someone's been looking at LYST's Top 10 list and writing in their journal 'How to make Money'......

Gucci Resort 2025 Shoes - Mid Mid SS2016 Ballet Flats (Streetstyle staple and general cult item)

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vogue runway.com / Mytheresa.com
 
Someone's been looking at LYST's Top 10 list and writing in their journal 'How to make Money'......

Gucci Resort 2025 Shoes - Mid Mid SS2016 Ballet Flats (Streetstyle staple and general cult item)

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vogue runway.com / Mytheresa.com
It’s sad how desperately they are chasing trends. They should be setting them!

Also those Gucci shoes are so busy. The flat toe + horsebit + bow + triple strap is not cute. I’d rather buy carel
 
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Someone's been looking at LYST's Top 10 list and writing in their journal 'How to make Money'......

Gucci Resort 2025 Shoes - Mid Mid SS2016 Ballet Flats (Streetstyle staple and general cult item)

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P00887226.jpg


vogue runway.com / Mytheresa.com
These too smh…

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I see a fashion designer like an architect or a furniture designer. For me, Yves Saint Laurent, Pierre Paulin and Renzo Piano were doing the same thing: Design.
Come to think of it, comparing oneself to very successful creatives from all different kinds of fields sounds a bit like an ego trip to me.
 
There are countless countlessssss photos of different balenciaga gowns and coats I happen upon (not only balenciaga, but just an example of an authentically designed garment) that people have copied and tried to recontextualize for today. Which makes me notice the progression of how un-personal the idea of fashion design has become, and the process of creating in a globally homogenized society. I actually think Galliano did a really good job here for example, the Margiela version of that 50's coat is interesting because the idea of wearing an heirloom is cool, fun, "authentic", but also on the flip side it fits within the "1 size fits all, this completely impersonal oversized garment is here for any of you to immediately wear and consume right now in the moment slay" type fashion that is so very common these days and needed to move product fast in order to make money faster...
 

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