Thom Browne Menswear

AlexN said:
Kit, no offense, but there wasn't really a whole lot to reply to or discuss. For me (and I'm guessing others may be the same way), I don't really like saying anything about clothes I've never seen before. Additionally, this came across to me as more of an information-gathering post. I have no information about the guy, and apparently neither does the majority of the people here. It's not simply about playing favorites and ignoring your topic. Also, like Faust, businesswear just does not appeal to me. I hope you understand. :flower:


Sorry . :cry:

CERTAINLY no offence taken , AlexN .:flower:

I was trying to gather info on a little known designer , over here , who I had read a little about in Vogue Hommes International .

It was nice to have learned that Johnny saw some of Thom's pieces in Colette.

I was trying to be ironic in my tone , but , as usual , I have not succeeded . :cry:
I realise now why Johnny asked if I was p....d off . :lol:

There , you see , I'm as thick as that . :blush:
 
kit said:
Many thanks for the info , birdofparadise :flower:

It's just what I was looking for . B)

I understand where you're coming from , faust , it's just that some , especially in the ultra-conservative UK , establishment-wise , have no choice but to dress the part , whether in the CITY ( the London finance world ) for instance , and also in their leisure time , at the golf club etc . Hence the stereotypical bowler-hatted englishman - except he no longer wears a hat , but a loudly striped shirt , a Brioni or Hermes tie ,and a fancy faux-Savile Row suit , by Richard James . :blink:

its all just appropriate-ness for the kind of life you lead. If you work in my 'line'you would look completely off unless you wore a good city suit & tie. For men there is very little flexibilty unfortunately (its slightly better for women).
 
helena said:
its all just appropriate-ness for the kind of life you lead. If you work in my 'line'you would look completely off unless you wore a good city suit & tie. For men there is very little flexibilty unfortunately (its slightly better for women).

Exactly !!!

My nephew is a lawyer in London , and I know the pressures on him to ' conform ' .
 
you know that i'm a lawyer too kit.....and the pressure to conform isn't just in the way we dress....

...but we all digress here.

I will certainly be on the lookout since you mention this guy.
 
helena said:
its all just appropriate-ness for the kind of life you lead. If you work in my 'line'you would look completely off unless you wore a good city suit & tie. For men there is very little flexibilty unfortunately (its slightly better for women).

Yes, but I think it's the way of the past. The internet/software technology boomed certainly proved it, when cilicone valley wiz kids who had power because they possessed the know-how (before the bigwigs harnessed the means of production, yet again) refused to wear suits and ties. The corporate world had to compromise with their relaxed way of life. They are the ones responsible for loosening the dress code, and fighting for other perks that make the working environment more or less tolerable. Even "business casual" dress code is not that bad. I can wing looking like a human being in that environment. I don't know how it is in the UK, do big financial companies still require a suit/tie uniform?
 
yes faust I'd say they do. There was a 'fashion' towards dress down a few years ago but I think it has swung back in favour of dress up. All people that I know who work in banks, private equity, fund managers wear suits every day. My office has dress down friday but frankly I find it more stylistically offensive because I am forced to look at the majority of people wearing really really bad clothes (men & women) . I would rather they wore the uniform of a business suit if I am honest. At least that was I don't have to look at a bunch of middle aged men & women dressed up as David beckham & sienna miller.....
 
helena said:
yes faust I'd say they do. There was a 'fashion' towards dress down a few years ago but I think it has swung back in favour of dress up. All people that I know who work in banks, private equity, fund managers wear suits every day. My office has dress down friday but frankly I find it more stylistically offensive because I am forced to look at the majority of people wearing really really bad clothes (men & women) . I would rather they wore the uniform of a business suit if I am honest. At least that was I don't have to look at a bunch of middle aged men & women dressed up as David beckham & sienna miller.....

:lol: Well, that's part of the rational for the uniform, most people dress really badly outside of work.
 
faust said:
Yes, but I think it's the way of the past. The internet/software technology boomed certainly proved it, when cilicone valley wiz kids who had power because they possessed the know-how (before the bigwigs harnessed the means of production, yet again) refused to wear suits and ties. The corporate world had to compromise with their relaxed way of life. They are the ones responsible for loosening the dress code, and fighting for other perks that make the working environment more or less tolerable. Even "business casual" dress code is not that bad. I can wing looking like a human being in that environment. I don't know how it is in the UK, do big financial companies still require a suit/tie uniform?

Man, amen to the tech industry. I'm sitting here at work in Cloak and Dries. I had a meeting a few hours ago with some suit-types, and they commented on what my boss and I were wearing. We get off with the blanket excuse of being programmers--no one expects us to show up at work in a suit. Neither of us are programmers, per se, but people hear 'computers' and glaze over at that. We get a clothing carte blanche :wink:

Also, I am familiar with Thom Browne, but I couldn't countenance wearing pants that length, especially with a suit. He does make a nice cut, though, if you can pull it off. Personally, I wouldn't go for it, but that's a personal style choice. Also, since I don't ever have to wear a suit, I often like to wear one--I guess I don't have the strong negative connotations that Faust does..
 
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thanks for the thread kit, hope someone gets some more information on him. i appreciate finely crafted goods- but i really appreciate something that pushes conventions. i like things that resemble something, but there's something about it that's twisted or slightly off- that's what ccp does for me.

i agree with kLm, i would never wear pants that length. i can be playful sometimes with my clothes, but i'm not about wearing floods :wink:. maybe if i see more pictures i'll change my mind, but for now i like spencer hart better :flower:
 
I've seen Thom Browne a lot in the area for the past few years - handsome, short-ish man (maybe 5'8" max), who looks even shorter because the suits he makes and favors are super-slim but cropped, with high-waisted, almost-highwater length pants and slightly oversized shoes. His showroom is directly underneath Cloak's in the meat-packing district. While like most of you I can respect the quality and the intent that goes into this clothing, it's not for me. To wear this look is all about conforming to Thom Browne's aesthetic of when he was young, looking at Sears and Brooks Brothers catalogs and ordering from them without ever fitting them. There's perhaps a very Eisenhower/JFK feeling to the clothing that never appealed to me, although Thom himself is appealing in that he's handsome and has a definite idea about how he dresses. But he definitely has his look, and if you don't like that look, it may not work for you at all - Thom is very fit, but I feel he looks out-of-shape in the suits. It's definitely a modern way of looking retro, just like in the movies. But I changed my mind slightly about his suits when I saw someone else wearing them.

He has a young man who works for him who wears the same suits slightly differently (you can customize it so that they don't make you look just like Thom, but maybe not too much unlike him) so much so that I couldn't stop looking at him when I ran into him at an art supply store recently. A very slim cut, and obviously well-fitted, but more traditional looking so it stood out from the typical designer look. Ultimately, that's what makes the suit stand out - it looks like a fashionista's version of a workman's suit, which is a form of drag in itself.

Anyhow, Thom's been heralded as part of the new suitmaker's wave of menswear designers of the past few years. He's been thrust into the limelight in the company of Spencer Hart, Duncan Quinn and Andrew Harmon. Since I don't even wear the suits that I own, I can't really tell you what it's like to wear them. However, Thom recently had a spread in some magazine I saw at a store recently (that I didn't buy) and I thought the two dozen or so outfits he wore from his collection made him look awful. I didn't buy the mag and promptly forgot about it. But there's a revealing interview in the premiere issue of Fantastic Man magazine, a new style journal for men brought to you by the publishers of Butt, the "fantastic magazine for homosexuals," quite possibly the only p*rno magazine in the world to have advertising from Gucci, Dior Homme and Helmut Lang (So faust, that means it's NOT for you, if you dislike magazines ever being "disgustingly homoerotic;" yes, I'm never forgiving you for that nasty comment of yours). It's a magazine I personally like for it's very cheeky wink-wink, nudge-nudge tpe of proto-seriousness, and its style obviously appeals to the gay men who run in the fashion circles (it's where I got to read first about Thomas Engel Hart). I haven't read through Fantastic Man Magazine completely, but it's designed very similarly to Butt. Here's a preview.

http://www.fantasticmanmagazine.com/

Hope this helps yout Thome Browne query.
 
I do believe in Thom Browne's visionary, however, I personally find his clothes fit better with Westerner's bigger body type. I guess it's a bit like Dior Homme fits better with slim people. Maybe Karl has a new reason to gain some weight this time round. Since he wears Thom's clothes too...
 
There's a bunch of nice-looking Thom Brown at YOOX last time I checked. Expensive even with the YOOX discount.
 
Originally Posted by AlexN
There's a bunch of nice-looking Thom Brown at YOOX last time I checked. Expensive even with the YOOX discount.

I was thinking to risk $7 shipping charge to just try one of his $2000+ jacket on and see what it feels like. I haven't seen his clothes in person and I am very interested. If I end up liking it then I'll be in trouble..... :doh:
 
thom-brownne.jpg

his contribution to the Verdopolis FutureFashion show...
see the fair trade fashion thread for more info

img from verdopolis.org
 
thank you cerfas (and Hanne) title changed :flower:
 
helena said:
why are TB's clothes so expensive?

because he is hot in the new york gallery scene, bla, bla, bla. he'll probably be done in two-three years.
 
hmmmmm I see. Its all so contrived isn't it?
 

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